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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Tex im not here to purposefully bash but the punishment is basically justifying thats its ok to hit a woman.

    Thats where the sociopathic element comes into it.

    If I were a female id be scared by this ruling as its saying to people thats its ok to bash women provided you have money..
    what ruling? Its the NFL not some court system. How long they suspend the player for doesn't mean anything in terms of the penal system. I'm not gonna argue with a foreigner who doesn't understand American sports, go do some research before you try to make an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Its well known that fear can buy alot of silence but hey its her fault because her head somehow got in the way of his fist, right?
    you're either a complete idiot or had a family member that was abused, tell me which one it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Tex im not here to purposefully bash but the punishment is basically justifying thats its ok to hit a woman.

    Thats where the sociopathic element comes into it.

    If I were a female id be scared by this ruling as its saying to people thats its ok to bash women provided you have money..
    Trust me man, women are already scared. It's not just an American problem, but it's definitely a problem here just like it is everywhere else. When women are in situations where they are alone, they're always scared and taking precautions, just throughout the course of a normal day. I think ultimately it's because the punishment and the stigma for this kind of abuse of women is not strong enough. This 2 game punishment is just another example. But I know that there will be a point in our future where someone will see this ray rice tape and say "well obviously he never had the privilege of playing professional sports anymore" because that's where we'll be as a nation. I feel we're far from it right now though

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    what ruling? Its the NFL not some court system. How long they suspend the player for doesn't mean anything in terms of the penal system. I'm not gonna argue with a foreigner who doesn't understand American sports, go do some research before you try to make an argument.
    Yeah well the nfl has just lost another viewer and from what im reading on social media I think the nfl has severely under evaluated the level of backlash its copping here.

    Dont be surprised if rice is sent back before the commission for a re-evaluated punishment.

    NFL screwed up bigtime on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    you're either a complete idiot or had a family member that was abused, tell me which one it is.
    Attack the post, not the poster.

    Moving on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by texhooper View Post
    Trust me man, women are already scared. It's not just an American problem, but it's definitely a problem here just like it is everywhere else. When women are in situations where they are alone, they're always scared and taking precautions, just throughout the course of a normal day. I think ultimately it's because the punishment and the stigma for this kind of abuse of women is not strong enough. This 2 game punishment is just another example. But I know that there will be a point in our future where someone will see this ray rice tape and say "well obviously he never had the privilege of playing professional sports anymore" because that's where we'll be as a nation. I feel we're far from it right now though
    Well said 👍

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    No footage of him hitting her, with that said there's a reason to smack anyone.

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    Its FOOTBALL why should 45 other guys pay because she has no chin?

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    I dont understand why there is discipline in the workplace for something thats handled in our amazing judicial system?! Now my boss is involved in what i do in my personal life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Yeah well the nfl has just lost another viewer and from what im reading on social media I think the nfl has severely under evaluated the level of backlash its copping here.

    Dont be surprised if rice is sent back before the commission for a re-evaluated punishment.

    NFL screwed up bigtime on this one
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    Lololol. Viewership will be up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boner_18 View Post
    I dont understand why there is discipline in the workplace for something thats handled in our amazing judicial system?! Now my boss is involved in what i do in my personal life?

    The company you work for doesn't have a code of conduct that extends into your personal life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    No footage of him hitting her, with that said there's a reason to smack anyone.
    This is not true. The police have the surveillance vid from inside the elevator, it just wasn't released. He clocked her with an uppercut apparently. As was said, it would be cool if it DID see the light of day, for the outrage that would surely ensue.

    In total agreement with the OP, this is complete bullsh-t. There's not much you can do worse than beating a fellow human being, particularly one who is clearly helpless to defend herself against you. He should get a full season with lots of forced counseling and community service. Get him out of the picture for a full year. The money is a drop in the bucket for these guys, so that part is meaningless.

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    Did he ever get convicted for allegedly beating his wife/gf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Did he ever get convicted for allegedly beating his wife/gf?
    Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice has struck a deal with prosecutors that could keep him out of jail for allegedly KOing his then-fiance in an Atlantic City casino ... but there's one big catch.

    Rice was accepted into a pretrial intervention program on Tuesday -- a program that allows defendants to avoid prosecution pending the completion of a specific set of rehabilitative conditions.

    Officials wouldn't give any specific details on Rice's program -- only saying that it will last one year ... and he MUST stay out of trouble during the course of the PTI.

    If he can satisfy those requirements, prosecutors will drop the 3rd degree aggravated assault charge.

    Rice's attorney told ESPN, "We're very happy with the result. We're glad that the court and the prosecutor's office agreed PTI was the appropriate disposition for the case."


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    this mofo should be banned for a few years from football....also, a year in jail with heavy domestic abuse counseling would be an appropriate punishment for this crime...

    2 games suspension and completely avoiding prosecution all together is a complete joke and a failure of the judicial system imo

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    The great philosopher 50 cent once said:

    Shit, if bitch gets out of pocket, she needs some discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    The great philosopher 50 cent once said:

    Shit, if bitch gets out of pocket, she needs some discipline.


    STFU AND SQUAT PUTO!!!

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    She must not care too much since she married him after the incident. She could have just sued his ass and taken millions from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Well them explain to me how it is that we here all these fukked up happenings going on in the world and as human beings we choose to almost wantingly ignore the plights of other humans who (through no fault of their own) are in circumstances far less fortunate than ours?

    I call it mastering the art of self manipulation, something I hope to never acquire.
    Christ man you can't save the world, doesn't mean people don't care. Are you talking about Wars or what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texhooper View Post
    We applaud the banishment of a senile old nba owner for racist comments, yet when it comes to any kind of sexual abuse, domestic violence, etc, we still pull the "but we don't know all the details" or specifically, in this case, "but what about his charity". Any excuse we can find to keep a dancer dancing, a singer singing, or an athlete running. I can't stand it.
    So true.

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    NFL taking a major hit for this

    Rice should of had a one-year suspension

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    Big Ben got more games than that and all he did was bang some whore and not call her the next day.

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    2 full games is way too harsh. Mind your business NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capybara View Post
    This is not true. The police have the surveillance vid from inside the elevator, it just wasn't released. He clocked her with an uppercut apparently. As was said, it would be cool if it DID see the light of day, for the outrage that would surely ensue.

    In total agreement with the OP, this is complete bullsh-t. There's not much you can do worse than beating a fellow human being, particularly one who is clearly helpless to defend herself against you. He should get a full season with lots of forced counseling and community service. Get him out of the picture for a full year. The money is a drop in the bucket for these guys, so that part is meaningless.
    Still, what did she do? I still believe nobody's above being smacked. Lot of self righteous people on radio talking about this the old never hit a woman and I agree, to an extent. There are alot of unequal fights amongst men also, in size and ability, no one would dare come down on that though. Women can use that old adage to their advantage, there is no telling what she did to get clocked, probably deserved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Big Ben got more games than that and all he did was bang rape some at least 3 whores but only in trouble for one and not call her the next day.
    Fixed it for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Still, what did she do? I still believe nobody's above being smacked. Lot of self righteous people on radio talking about this the old never hit a woman and I agree, to an extent. There are alot of unequal fights amongst men also, in size and ability, no one would dare come down on that though. Women can use that old adage to their advantage, there is no telling what she did to get clocked, probably deserved it.
    dude, she was out cold...limbs hanging and shit....you never clock a woman like that, unless she pulled a gun on you

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    typical black behavior

    they are cowards

    eve in fights always 5-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    dude, she was out cold...limbs hanging and shit....you never clock a woman like that, unless she pulled a gun on you
    You haven't had much experience with American women I see. I don't condone hitting women but American women in general are the most trifling species on the planet and there isn't a close 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    You haven't had much experience with American women I see. I don't condone hitting women but American women in general are the most trifling species on the planet and there isn't a close 2nd.
    I lived in States for 20 years...yeah I don't know your culture
    I do agree with you that American women is another breed, but nothing justifies knocking out a woman...unless, like I said earlier, there is a direct danger to your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    dude, she was out cold...limbs hanging and shit....you never clock a woman like that, unless she pulled a gun on you
    They were both drunk, alcohol could have been some of the reason she was out, but I heard radio host say the same thing, never put your hands on a woman unless she has a gun or knife, lol damn, its way to late for hands then, you need a gun or a knife in those situations. You must be pretty young, I used to have the same mindset as you, but once you experience life your mind gets wiser.

    True story, when I was around 11 or 12, one day on the bus after school some girl starting picking on me, then decided she would just start hitting me, kids egging her on, she continues even hard on the head each time and just walloping me, the whole time I sat there with "well she has to stop sometime and never hit a female" mindset, knowing the whole time I could have and should have beat the ish out of her.

    Alone from that, Ray's probably spent a few million on her during course of relationship, what if while at the casino she said some really crazy stuff, which was probably the case and who knows she probably hit him first and more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    I lived in States for 20 years...yeah I don't know your culture
    I do agree with you that American women is another breed, but nothing justifies knocking out a woman...unless, like I said earlier, there is a direct danger to your life.
    I agree and never have touched a women however I can't remember the last time I was in the presence of American women and didn't at least want to punch one of them at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    The company you work for doesn't have a code of conduct that extends into your personal life?
    Not only that, a company can fire someone for a conviction resulting from a crime involving ones personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    You haven't had much experience with American women I see. I don't condone hitting women but American women in general are the most trifling species on the planet and there isn't a close 2nd.
    You are saying women in America are insignificant?
    Dude, go to any heavy duty Muslim country, they treat women like they are beneath barnyard animals.

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    If you hit a woman you should have a bullet in your head

    I would love to see and laugh my as off when the assassinate every women beater

    Rice is just an animal that's what we classify him as here

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    You are saying women in America are insignificant?
    Dude, go to any heavy duty Muslim country, they treat women like they are beneath barnyard animals.
    Insignificant? No not saying that at all. Miserable humans as a whole, absofukinlutely.

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