[thechaoz]

My niners looking at both seriously. They are terrible at picking receivers mostly so idk I"m nervous.

[opie1988]

Watching the replay of the WR's running the gauntlet.

I literally can't stop watching. It's awesome.

[eidolon]

Watching the WR's run their 40's right now. Sammy Watkins just ran a 4.34. 3 guys have already ran a 4.30.

I remember the thread recently where a ton of guys here claimed they could either still or very recently run a sub 5.

Just really makes you appreciate the pure eliteness of the posters we have here at the chit-chat room.

We definitely have some special guys here

[bubblebuttluv]

"Johnny Manziel finishes with an official 4.68 in the 40-yard dash."

Nominated.

I'm waiting for Manziel to turn his arm into a sword.

[broadway6]

Opie, who are the cowboys drafting?

[jjgold]

Doing well in an NFL combine does not equate to being a productive NFL player

It's just a draft tool

[Swinging Johnson]

Watching the WR's run their 40's right now. Sammy Watkins just ran a 4.34. 3 guys have already ran a 4.30.

I remember the thread recently where a ton of guys here claimed they could either still or very recently run a sub 5.

Just really makes you appreciate the pure eliteness of the posters we have here at the chit-chat room.

I recall running a sub 5 in the 40 several years ago. But after about 3 minutes I had to take a water break and I nearly didn't crack it.

[opie1988]

Doing well in an NFL combine does not equate to being a productive NFL player

It's just a draft tool

Wow! What a brilliant take. No shit??

Buy a clue, pal. Stick to soccer.

[InTheDrink]

Connor shaw faster than johnny

[opie1988]

South Carolina homerism at its finest.

I don't think Johnny is real concerned about Connor Shaw bumping him down a spot.

Gamecocks

[SamDiamond]

Cripes, Opie.

Did you see what Clowney just did at his size?

I will wait for the official.

But his unofficial 40 time was 4.47.

His second attempt was 4.48.

At 6'5 266.

[MeatWad]

San Diego ST RB Adam Muema decided to leave the combine early.......

"Muema said that he was "following God" who told him that his dream of playing for the Seattle Seahawks would come true if he left."

Not sure about his logic here, but gotta respect a man of his convictions.

I think the main thing the combines can't measure is instinctual in-game speed. The guys who can't kill the 40 yd dash but who react fast and can anticipate the right timing and positioning on the field.

[InTheDrink]

Cripes, Opie.

Did you see what Clowney just did at his size?

I will wait for the official.

But his unofficial 40 time was 4.47.

His second attempt was 4.48.

At 6'5 266.

texas gets fukkin buried within 20 minutes of his last post

[SamDiamond]

San Diego ST RB Adam Muema decided to leave the combine early.......

"Muema said that he was "following God" who told him that his dream of playing for the Seattle Seahawks would come true if he left."

Not sure about his logic here, but gotta respect a man of his convictions.

I think the main thing the combines can't measure is instinctual in-game speed. The guys who can't kill the 40 yd dash but who react fast and can anticipate the right timing and positioning on the field.

He left because god told him to?

Seriously?

That is going to end well for him.

[SamDiamond]

texas gets fukkin buried within 20 minutes of his last post

In Op's defense.

Jackson Jeffcoat just put up a nice number.

Jeffcoat ran the 2nd fastest 40 among DL at 6'3 240---4.6.

His stock just jumped.

[InTheDrink]

In Op's defense.

Jackson Jeffcoat just put up a nice number.

Jeffcoat ran the 2nd fastest 40 among DL at 6'3 240---4.6.

His stock just jumped.

so texas gets to pick from every school in texas just to keep up with the gamecocks

college football in texas

[MeatWad]

Cripes, Opie.

Did you see what Clowney just did at his size?

I will wait for the official.

But his unofficial 40 time was 4.47.

His second attempt was 4.48.

At 6'5 266.

Clowney is a career All star NFL player, blue chipper no lose prospect unlike the skill position guys who are generally a bigger roll of the dice. How may high picks have been wasted on diva WR's, mediocre easily replacable RB's, or even bust QB', although the potential upside to drafting a future Manning, Bray, Brees, make it a more justified gamble. I say draft for defense and O linemen, the rest takes care of itself.

And btw Connor Shaw is a second stringer at best. Listen to how "The Old Football Coach" Spurrier half ass endorses his prospects. I bet he telling his NFL buddies something similar...good kid, can run, but will never lead a team into the playoffs with that arm.

[MeatWad]

He left because god told him to?

Seriously?

That is going to end well for him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...05--ncaaf.html

I laughed also, but I do respect a guy doing something like this because of the passion for his beliefs.

[SamDiamond]

Clowney is a career All star NFL player, blue chipper no lose prospect unlike the skill position guys who are generally a bigger roll of the dice. How may high picks have been wasted on diva WR's, mediocre easily replacable RB's, or even bust QB', although the potential upside to drafting a future Manning, Bray, Brees, make it a more justified gamble. I say draft for defense and O linemen, the rest takes care of itself.

And btw Connor Shaw is a second stringer at best. Listen to how "The Old Football Coach" Spurrier half ass endorses his prospects. I bet he telling his NFL buddies something similar...good kid, can run, but will never lead a team into the playoffs with that arm.

Spurrier also questioned Clowney's work ethic.

Clowney is a freak, no doubt.

But I'm not sure I would select him if my team needed a QB, or LT.

[opie1988]

Clowney is a career All star NFL player, blue chipper no lose prospect unlike the skill position guys who are generally a bigger roll of the dice. How may high picks have been wasted on diva WR's, mediocre easily replacable RB's, or even bust QB', although the potential upside to drafting a future Manning, Bray, Brees, make it a more justified gamble. I say draft for defense and O linemen, the rest takes care of itself.

And btw Connor Shaw is a second stringer at best. Listen to how "The Old Football Coach" Spurrier half ass endorses his prospects. I bet he telling his NFL buddies something similar...good kid, can run, but will never lead a team into the playoffs with that arm.

Bang.

MeatWad buries Drinker before I even have time to respond.

Not sure how you can compare Clowney to a QB anyway?

I like Johnny, but I can assure you I'm not an A&M homer. Not even close.

Johnny just intrigues the hell out of me. Impossible to say what he'll do from here. My initial feeling is that he won't have a lot of success in the pros, but he's been doubted at every turn. And that never turned out well.....

[InTheDrink]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...05--ncaaf.html

I laughed also, but I do respect a guy doing something like this because of the passion for his beliefs.

he's a fukkin delusional idiot....nothing more, nothing less

[InTheDrink]

Bang.

MeatWad buries Drinker before I even have time to respond.

Not sure how you can compare Clowney to a QB anyway?

I like Johnny, but I can assure you I'm not an A&M homer. Not even close.

Johnny just intrigues the hell out of me. Impossible to say what he'll do from here. My initial feeling is that he won't have a lot of success in the pros, but he's been doubted at every turn. And that never turned out well.....

he just called clowney a sure thing and that buries me....okay pal

[SamDiamond]

Bang.

MeatWad buries Drinker before I even have time to respond.

Not sure how you can compare Clowney to a QB anyway?

I like Johnny, but I can assure you I'm not an A&M homer. Not even close.

Johnny just intrigues the hell out of me. Impossible to say what he'll do from here. My initial feeling is that he won't have a lot of success in the pros, but he's been doubted at every turn. And that never turned out well.....

Op, I would bet on him failing.

The NFL is just a different cat. JF's ability to run around and create will not hunt in the NFL. OC's in the NFL prefer structure, discipline. And Manziel's instincts are going to bite him in the ass.

People compare him to Russell Wilson, but Wilson was a pocket QB at NCST and Wisconsin.

[opie1988]

he just called clowney a sure thing and that buries me....okay pal

I would lean toward Clowney being "closer to a sure thing" than Johnny football. No question.

Gamecock baseball

[InTheDrink]

solid foot work

[MeatWad]

Like Opie said, Johnny has a big upside. I think he likely does not turn into a big time NFL QB, but how many big time QB's are out there, 4-5 over 15 years of drafting. Also like Opie said, the kids a winner, cocky yeah, but guys like him are motivated to excel, their cockiness makes drives them to achieve.

[jjgold]

Manziel will get it done

He needs right team though

[MeatWad]

Op, I would bet on him failing.

The NFL is just a different cat. JF's ability to run around and create will not hunt in the NFL. OC's in the NFL prefer structure, discipline. And Manziel's instincts are going to bite him in the ass.

People compare him to Russell Wilson, but Wilson was a pocket QB at NCST and Wisconsin.

I definitely agree with your take on NCAAF running QB's translating into great NFL'ers, a big +1.

But look closely at Wilson's running stats, over 500 yds average in 2 seasons and over 5+ yds per carry in both seasons. His running also keeps LB's and safeties frozen, enabling him longer time to make reads and passes.

[MeatWad]

Manziel will get it done

He needs right team though

Yeah, can't rush him into like you could with Luck. Also any QB is 10x better with a quality o-line.

[SamDiamond]

Yeah, can't rush him into like you could with Luck. Also any QB is 10x better with a quality o-line.

I know it may surprise some, but Andrew Luck ran a faster 40 than Johnny Manziel.

Luck is a great athlete.

The Colts just don't ask him to run because they realize he's the franchise.

Also, Tom Brady ran something like a 5.2.

So-- QBs can survive the NFL if they can't run.

They can't survive if they can't throw it in the pocket.

[InTheDrink]

clowney was .03 behind "burner" deanthony thomas

fukkin sick

[BigDeem5]

I will bet Opie a substantial amount of cash I can run a sub 5.0 40 yd dash.

It really isn't difficult. I ran a fukking 5.0 when I was like 15 for football, was a little fella back then.

background:

22 years young
Asian
In supreme athletic condition
6'0 165 lbs in midst cut
Consume 150-200g protein daily
Do cardio 3-4x a week
Averaging 25.2 PPG in intramurals this year.


Give me a line, opie.

4.99 and below I win, 5.0 + you win. I get two attempts.

[SamDiamond]

clowney was .03 behind "burner" deanthony thomas

fukkin sick

To appreciate just how freakish Clowney is---

His official time is 4.53

Other official times...

Marquis Lee (WR USC) 4.52
Mike Evans (WR-Tex A&M) 4.53
Kelvin Benjamin (WR-Florida State) 4.61
Lache Seastrunk (RB-Baylor) 4.51
Tre Mason (RB-Auburn) 4.50

[BigDeem5]

Idc if he ran a 4.33, guy will not be that good..

All the intangibles, not the head or work ethic.

Jamarcus Russell could throw a fukking ball 70+ yards on ONE KNEE, that's fukking amazing. Idk if Tom Brady could even throw 70 yards.... Let's all not get ahead of ourselves.

[InTheDrink]

To appreciate just how freakish Clowney is---

His official time is 4.53

Other official times...

Marquis Lee (WR USC) 4.52
Mike Evans (WR-Tex A&M) 4.53
Kelvin Benjamin (WR-Florida State) 4.61
Lache Seastrunk (RB-Baylor) 4.51
Tre Mason (RB-Auburn) 4.50

you know what also gets put into perspective?

jevon kearse ran a 4.43 40 back in the day

maybe the most amazing pound for pound combine performance ever