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    Otters27
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    Why is everyone on the Chiefs?

    Like the Chiefs here but did not expect such a line movement.

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    I like the road numbers they have averaged this year defensively speaking

    Opp avg score 17.9
    Red zone td's allowed 47%
    3rd down conversion 34%
    turnover margin +2.4

    I am more sold on the under then the side.....

    stupid as it sounds this pattern bothers me.....last 10 matchups SU winner

    Ind,Ind,Ind,KC,Ind,Ind,Ind,KC,Ind Ind......????


    Im on KC and Under

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    Indy might get their sh!t pushed in.

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    Those Seattle/SF/Denver wins are long forgotten.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Those Seattle/SF/Denver wins are long forgotten.....
    I live in the KC area and I'm trying to figure out what others are seeing in KC as well...Indy is playing some of their best football over the last few weeks even if its been over crap teams. KC has some banged up players, and they've just been in a funk lately and going into Indy and beating Indy on their home field is going to be a tall order.

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    Line moving across the ZERO aint that much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Line moving across the ZERO aint that much...
    Looks like it is going to hold at -2.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    Looks like it is going to hold at -2.5
    Anyone know why the line is changing as much as it has over the last few hours? Look forward to getting some insight cause this one is puzzling to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Line moving across the ZERO aint that much...
    ML went from like -140 to +120. That's a huge difference...

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    Pick the team you think will win... Very good chance the line wont matter

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    5 Dimes now KC -1 1/2....if I remember last week it opened Indy - 2 1/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    I live in the KC area and I'm trying to figure out what others are seeing in KC as well...Indy is playing some of their best football over the last few weeks even if its been over crap teams. KC has some banged up players, and they've just been in a funk lately and going into Indy and beating Indy on their home field is going to be a tall order.
    The reason I like KC is because they can get pressure. If Indy "is not the same" without Wayne, I'm not sure why you'd be on them. They haven't beaten anyone of note since they lost him. Yes, I know they beat KC but that game was 13-7, Succup misses FG, KC gets 2H kick return to midfield, INT then D. Brown 50 yard run put the game out of reach for that day.

    Charles was like a hot knife through butter on the 1st drive and Reid did his old Philly "I know I can run but I just want to keep passing, just because" stuff. I expect this to be a close game where KC finds a way to win in the end.

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    I hear you guys, The KC defense everyone saw at 9-0 to start the season has left town...Hali hobbled right now and Huston playing for the first time in weeks. Yes Charles is their stud, but Eric Fischer isn't going to play today (starting right tackle and No. 1 overall pick) so the easy going today might be a tad tougher

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    I picked them because I think in the playoffs, D + running game is more reliable than a young and inconsistent offense

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    Eric fisher is big deal. Tamba should play though

    Indy has impressive wins over hawks/undefeated broncos/@ Sf/ Kc.

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    Just remember that a -1.5 move to a +1.5 move is not the same as a -1.5 to a -4.5 because they will never list a -0.5, pk or +0.5 line. So it's basically a 1 point move and not a 3 point move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    Line moving across the ZERO aint that much...
    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post

    Just remember that a -1.5 move to a +1.5 move is not the same as a -1.5 to a -4.5 because they will never list a -0.5, pk or +0.5 line. So it's basically a 1 point move and not a 3 point move.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Just remember that a -1.5 move to a +1.5 move is not the same as a -1.5 to a -4.5 because they will never list a -0.5, pk or +0.5 line. So it's basically a 1 point move and not a 3 point move.
    But wouldn't you count the pk as a point so it'd be 2 point movement?

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    Considering no chance of a tie... -1/2 point either way and Pk are irrelevant

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    Because they will win

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Just remember that a -1.5 move to a +1.5 move is not the same as a -1.5 to a -4.5 because they will never list a -0.5, pk or +0.5 line. So it's basically a 1 point move and not a 3 point move.

    unreal

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    I think the over is the more intriguing play. THe game could go either way.

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    Chiefs and under.

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    I've been going over this game all day and just can't pull the trigger on anything. I believe Andy Reid goes against his norm and feeds Charles the rock more than usual. I also believe Justin Houston is being rushed back early to make up for the lack of defense the Chiefs have played towards the end of the season. Hali has his own issues with his knees. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy! Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Just remember that a -1.5 move to a +1.5 move is not the same as a -1.5 to a -4.5 because they will never list a -0.5, pk or +0.5 line. So it's basically a 1 point move and not a 3 point move.
    You'll rarely see a half-point line (and never in the playoffs) unless an individual book needs to move it for action, but that doesn't mean it is any less significant. And, yes, they will list a pick 'em line. So, while you are correct, it isn't a 1.5 to 4.5 - shit, passing the three is huge enough - it is somewhat significant and certainly raises an eyebrow.

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    Indy opened -2.5 at pinny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trendon View Post
    You'll rarely see a half-point line (and never in the playoffs) unless an individual book needs to move it for action, but that doesn't mean it is any less significant. And, yes, they will list a pick 'em line. So, while you are correct, it isn't a 1.5 to 4.5 - shit, passing the three is huge enough - it is somewhat significant and certainly raises an eyebrow.
    I didn't say it wan't a significant move. But it wasn't a 3 point move going from -1.5 to +1.5 like many people say.

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    Defense wins in the playoffs

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    KC.

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    74% winners since 1983: Play on any team revenging a loss where team scored less than 9 points and off an extremely close loss by 3 points or less to a division rival.

    30-9 ATS for 77% winners since 2002: Play on road teams where the line is +3 to -3 after 2 consecutive games where they forced 1 or less turnovers and is now facing an opponent after a game where they committed no turnovers.

    Most people just think KC is better.

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    Dunta Robinson is trash

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    Question answered....

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