When has anyone won @SEA or @NO in the playoffs? Both are unbeaten in their last 5 home playoff games.Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
We aren't talking about going to GB, ATL, SF, etc. SEA and NO have a decisive advantage at home.
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10-14-13 02:50 PM #36
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10-14-13 02:54 PM #37
this is Coiner Sharpest post in a long time Originally Posted by No coincidences
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10-14-13 02:59 PM #38
it's easier to see after the fact who are the good home teams. 3 of those 5 playoff games for the saints were decided by 3 points, so it could quite easily be a different story. and go back a little further and they are 5-3 at home... Originally Posted by slacker00
why would going to new orleans for a playoff game be any harder than going to lambeau in sub-zero temperatures? just a statistical anomaly that the saints are 5-0 in their last 5, nothing even close to total dominance.
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Score Offense Defense Expected Points Week Day Date OT Opp Tm Opp 1stD TotYd PassY RushY TO 1stD TotYd PassY RushY TO Offense Defense Sp. Tms 2011 Playoffs WildCard Sat January 7 boxscore W Detroit Lions 45 28 34 626 459 167 2 22 412 380 32 2 37.12 -18.92 -0.82 Division Sat January 14 boxscore L @ San Francisco 49ers 32 36 26 472 435 37 5 17 407 264 143 1 10.46 -0.42 -14.14 2010 Playoffs WildCard Sat January 8 boxscore L @ Seattle Seahawks 36 41 32 474 397 77 1 19 415 265 150 1 13.16 -13.99 -4.70 2009 Playoffs Division Sat January 16 boxscore W Arizona Cardinals 45 14 27 418 247 171 15 359 258 101 2 19.18 1.40 9.90 ConfChamp Sun January 24 boxscore W OT Minnesota Vikings 31 28 15 257 189 68 1 31 475 310 165 5 2.59 -6.36 6.82 SuperBowl Sun February 7 boxscore W N Indianapolis Colts 31 17 20 332 281 51 23 432 333 99 1 10.15 -5.82 8.82 2006 Playoffs Division Sat January 13 boxscore W Philadelphia Eagles 27 24 27 435 227 208 1 14 355 232 123 12.41 -10.79 -0.50 ConfChamp Sun January 21 boxscore L @ Chicago Bears 14 39 15 375 319 56 4 18 340 144 196 -11.45 -3.01 -12.26 2000 Playoffs WildCard Sat December 30 boxscore W St. Louis Rams 31 28 17 301 251 50 2 17 384 350 34 5 2.53 2.07 2.52 Division Sat January 6 boxscore L @ Minnesota Vikings 16 34 19 355 286 69 2 18 429 302 127 0.88 -17.80 -1.93 1992 Playoffs WildCard Sun January 3 boxscore L Philadelphia Eagles 20 36 20 360 284 76 4 19 349 213 136 1 1991 Playoffs WildCard Sat December 28 boxscore L Atlanta Falcons 20 27 23 330 265 65 3 20 334 255 79 2 1990 Playoffs WildCard Sun January 6 boxscore L @ Chicago Bears 6 16 11 193 128 65 3 18 365 176 189 1 1987 Playoffs WildCard Sun January 3 boxscore L Minnesota Vikings 10 44 9 149 96 53 6 28 417 207 210 2
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10-14-13 03:06 PM #39
cant even remember all the former coaches and players who said they did the same stuff......the pats filmed GAMES from a location that was not allowed....and most said you couldnt really do that much with what you would gather from it anyway.....people act like the patriots were filming everyones practices every week and bugging their meeting rooms(at the other teams own facilities) Originally Posted by theangryelf
"In 2012, nearly five years removed from the incident, former Jets head coach Eric Mangini stated that "I think when you look at the history of success that [the Patriots] had after that incident, it’s pretty obvious that it didn’t play any type of significant role in the victories [the Patriots] had or the success that [the Patriots] had."[17] As of the conclusion of the 2011 NFL season, the Patriots had the best record in the NFL since Spygate, compiling a 48-16 record from 2008-11 (the Pittsburgh Steelers and New Orleans Saints were second best over that span at 45-19)"
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10-14-13 03:09 PM #40
^^ ah, the old "we cheated but so did everyone else, and it didn't do any good anyway" argument.
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10-14-13 03:28 PM #41
Originally Posted by k13
This might be the dumbest statement ever typed on SBR
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10-14-13 03:30 PM #42
Originally Posted by k13
there isn't a team in the nfl better than the saints on the road since 2009. Best road record.
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10-14-13 03:31 PM #43
No Seattle? They may have home field through the NFC playoffs. If so, they are the NFC favs.
Who can be this years ravens?
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10-14-13 03:32 PM #44
Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
New Orleans is the second hardest place to play in the entire league
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10-14-13 03:32 PM #45
They broke a rule of where they can have some 25 year old video production intern stand and point a camera. Doesn’t kick 45 yard field goals in snow storms, doesn’t shut down Peyton’s Colts, doesn’t force turnovers, doesn’t return punts, and smart teams who understood that signals could be stolen with or without a camera routinely changed signals as preventative measure. It’s why virtually all NFL coaches from Bill Cowher to Jimmy Johnson and others have never blown up “spygate” like ESPN and the fans who were left in the Patriots’ wake have over the past decade. Those coaches have vehemently downplayed the significance of what happened and Jimmy Johnson went so far as to admit that he too did the same thing. A guy that won 2 Super Bowls with the Cowboys says he did it and no one cares because you are all too obsessed with the New England Patriots continued greatness. Love it. Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
^^ ah, the old "we cheated but so did everyone else, and it didn't do any good anyway" argument.
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10-14-13 03:37 PM #46
if it was no big deal why did the patriots get the largest punishment in the history of the nfl? Originally Posted by bobby heenan
what is the patriots playoff record with belicheck before spygate, and after spygate?
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10-14-13 03:41 PM #47
Cold weather neutralizes passing. That's why Rodgers and Peyton will get less benefit to being at home in January. Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
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10-14-13 03:42 PM #48
well they did film from the sidelines...which was forbidden.....it would take alot for them to take that footage and put it to use during said game.....but im sure the anti patriots wahoos will have figured out a way for it to work.... Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
so the patriots have lost playoff games...in a perfect world they would win every game they ever played....especially in the age of "parity"......look at some of you people...its as if you really expect the patriots to never lose in the playoffs....no one should even try...i guess thats a testament to the bar that they have set
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10-14-13 03:45 PM #49
"New Orleans is the second hardest place to play in the entire league"
that is such a random statement that has no facts to back it up. over a 10-year stretch through 2012 the saints were 45-37 on the road and 46-37 at home, so it must not be as hard as you think if the saints have the same record at home and on the road...
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10-14-13 03:45 PM #50
The punishment was because NFL warned the Pats and they did it anyway. NFL front office had it's hands tied. Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
Belichick is 5-5 since spygate, a record that most NFL franchises would love to have.
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10-14-13 03:45 PM #51
its actually funny....today i see, in other places, people still taking digs at the pats Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
some even going as far as to say "look at solder getting away with a choke hold on the last play....wheres the flag"...blah blah
then i look at this picture and all i think about is how you hear "brady choked...the pats choked hahaha"
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10-14-13 03:48 PM #52
heenan, people take digs at every team, that's the nature of fans.
you probably see more digs at the patriots because you are looking at them/for them.
i hear mostly comments about the packers because that is the nature of the milwaukee area...
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10-14-13 03:48 PM #53
sweeper unrale Originally Posted by sweep
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10-14-13 03:49 PM #54
You are an absolute idiot and I mean we see a lot of Payton dik riders here but they usually don't go this far. While I agree, this year patriots are not that good and are a bit lucky to be 5-1. I won't get into the Super Bowl debate, there are many other teams who I would pick this year to win than patriots but they are still contenders based on injuries and such. Originally Posted by Rangers901
People keep bringing up spy gate and how because of spygate patriots were good. You guys do know that after spyware they are like 80-24 or something and still have one of the best records. They have won five division titles out of six and have gone to two Super Bowls. Their defense hasn't been great in the past few years either as you claim so.
So what is your point? His record post spygate isn't good enough? Which other team had similar success?
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10-14-13 03:49 PM #55
maybe the first "hardest" place to play is where they're playing on the road on that given week...then his statement would be backed up Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
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10-14-13 03:50 PM #56
Originally Posted by k13
??? absolutely not
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10-14-13 03:52 PM #57
Did someone just say the patriots punishment was greater than the saints punishment for bountygate.
omfg.
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10-14-13 03:54 PM #58
cmon man....lets be real...sure you can go anywhere and hear digs at your favorite team...but the pats are one of the most hated teams in sports...people hate us and our fans....you can go on any non local based site...like here...profootballtalk....and everytime you do youll hear a bunch of retards talking about spygate or some other bullshit about how brady or belichick suck.....youll hear a bunch of people say brady is nothing without belichick....then youll hear another group who say belichick is nothing without brady...it happens everyday Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
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10-14-13 03:54 PM #59
Apply your logic to the Pats and they have 2 rings since spygate. Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
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10-14-13 03:57 PM #60
People hate successful teams. Its been this way forever. Imagine being a Miami Heat fan. Originally Posted by bobby heenan
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10-14-13 03:59 PM #61
i understand...and that was my point Originally Posted by JabooFootball
thats why i thought it was stupid for mike to say that pats hate only exists because im looking for it
they beat the saints and everyone is crying about how the saints handed them the game....and people are crying about a non holding call on solder....nobody cries when the giants dont get flagged for blatant holding on a miracle play though
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10-14-13 03:59 PM #62
Jets Steelers are in the same conference, can't happen
Originally Posted by No coincidences
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10-14-13 04:03 PM #63
I hate the Patriots as I am a Bills fan but Brady is the best qb of all time IMO and why does everyone talk Ab his elite defenses they had a WR playing Corner..... And why does no one mention Peyton having two Hall of Fame Caliber receivers compared to David Patten and Deon Branch or Troy Brown, Or 70 year old Antwan Smith vs The Edge
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10-14-13 04:05 PM #64
and what do you know....peytons wr corps isnt to shabby this time around too.... Originally Posted by YOUNGBUCK
but of course...toms success with the likes of patten, givens, troy brown can only be explained by elite defenses and cheating
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10-14-13 04:09 PM #65
Pre season i had Seahawks Broncos I see no reason to get off them now.
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10-14-13 04:10 PM #66
If your going to include the Donkeys then you need to put my Queef's on there as well. We've played five of the six opponents the Broncos have played and are unbeaten just like the Broncos ... just sayin
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10-14-13 04:26 PM #67
and I thought it was stupid that you referred to the patriots as "us". but we move on Originally Posted by bobby heenan
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10-14-13 04:45 PM #68
bob kraft told us "tonight we are all Patriots" once...so i ran with it Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
and I thought it was stupid that you referred to the patriots as "us". but we move on
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10-14-13 04:53 PM #69
fair enough, and I have stock in the packers so I guess I "own" the team, even though I can never get a dividend, make a decision, sell my stock, etc Originally Posted by bobby heenan
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10-14-13 05:10 PM #70
My sleeper Superbowl is Lions - Dolphins. Two teams everyone is bypassing.
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