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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Texans better than panthers, better than Seahawks.
    This game ain't losing.
    Benny the Panthers are much better than the Texans. Atleast talent wise.

    But the Panthers had success running the ball against Seattle.

    If the Texans are able to run the ball they may win.

    The thing that scares me about the Texans is Matt Shuab.

    He will get eaten alive if he trys to test that Seahawk secondary

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    How are the ravens average to ppl? They are only the defending Super Bowl champs lol.
    they are a shell of their former team. They lost 8 starters correct?

    They lost their boy Ed Reed and and Ray Lewis. Their #1 TE and
    their #1 receiver.

    They got their doors blown off by the Broncos.

    Only reason they had success against Texans is b/c Texans defense is overrated and Matt Shuab cannot exploit anybodys secondary.

    The Texans can't beat anybody with an elite QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    they are a shell of their former team. They lost 8 starters correct?

    They lost their boy Ed Reed and and Ray Lewis. Their #1 TE and
    their #1 receiver.

    They got their doors blown off by the Broncos.

    Only reason they had success against Texans is b/c Texans defense is overrated and Matt Shuab cannot exploit anybodys secondary.

    The Texans can't beat anybody with an elite QB.

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    this all being said you are correct in that the Texans are a much better
    team at home.

    and the Seahawks dont really have the type of passing game to exploit the
    Texans weak secondary.

    The Texans run defense can probably stop Marshawn Lynch

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    we should see a very low scoring smash mouth game

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    Anyway benny i'm just playing devils advocate i'm not saying Texans are not the right play.

    If the public is on Seahawks and i can get Texans +3 at -110

    i may pound this with you.

    But the Texans last performance against Ravens has me concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    they are a shell of their former team. They lost 8 starters correct?

    They lost their boy Ed Reed and and Ray Lewis. Their #1 TE and
    their #1 receiver.

    They got their doors blown off by the Broncos.

    Only reason they had success against Texans is b/c Texans defense is overrated and Matt Shuab cannot exploit anybodys secondary.

    The Texans can't beat anybody with an elite QB.
    Broncos best team in Football sir. Everyone's gonna lose to them.
    Not even close right now.
    Ravens are still good trust me.
    I also wouldn't call the team 2nd in overall defense so far, the Texans, overrated.
    And as far as elite qb's Russel Wilson might not even crack the top 15 in my book.

    Slow down BigBear and get down on the winner here. You had the Giants last week in my thread. That was the most fukked up line we had seen so far this year, until this game

    You need to get on the good foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Benny the Panthers are much better than the Texans. Atleast talent wise.

    But the Panthers had success running the ball against Seattle.

    If the Texans are able to run the ball they may win.

    The thing that scares me about the Texans is Matt Shuab.

    He will get eaten alive if he trys to test that Seahawk secondary
    not if hou has success running the ball, schaub is competent when the play action is there and it should be this week..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Anyway benny i'm just playing devils advocate i'm not saying Texans are not the right play.

    If the public is on Seahawks and i can get Texans +3 at -110

    i may pound this with you.

    But the Texans last performance against Ravens has me concerned.
    worrying about what happened last week is the quickest way to get buried in the nfl if ya ask me.. balty still way better than yu giving them credit for and all cause they got waxed in the 2nd half against a team that are straight beast right now? in a gm that should have been being played at the champs house? that a terrible reason to hate the ravens, if reed was a huge loss he would still be there, lewis was inspiration only last yr (notice how him being on sideline changed them?), ravens are a very good franchise man, you gotta trust when they replace guys that they bringing in another good fit imo..

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    i agree no team is as good or as bad as they looked the week before.

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    This line doesnt drop in gets bigger if anything. Seattle hands down is the best Defense in the NFL no one is close. The offense is ok also the public will lean towards betting the Seahawkers. Texans at home would seem to be a good play but I have a few games I like more if it goes to 4 maybe Ill take that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Texans better than panthers, better than Seahawks.
    This game ain't losing.
    wait what texans better than the sea? how? where?
    Last edited by DoctorX79; 09-24-13 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    i agree no team is as good or as bad as they looked the week before.
    i bet balty last week hoping exactly this would happen to set this gm up, now everyone crazy enough to back hou as road favs vs balty is jumping ship and backing seachickens as road favs vs hou.. seriously if you think sea the play i would just pass, easy for me to pass on the hyped up short road fav all day every day unless i really love them (then i still pass half the time cause short road favs are trash if ya ask me).. i doubt you ever get a non juiced +3, lot more likely gm comes down like benny said and looks like the balty gm last week as there will be plenty of money on hou at home (more ppl on seachickens more than likely but line should drop)..

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    It's also a 9am PST game for Seattle. People love tossing that fact in when picking an East Coast Home Dog.... but not here. People will toss money hand over fist on Seattle. I would actually not be shocked if it inched the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konck View Post
    This line doesnt drop in gets bigger if anything. Seattle hands down is the best Defense in the NFL no one is close. The offense is ok also the public will lean towards betting the Seahawkers. Texans at home would seem to be a good play but I have a few games I like more if it goes to 4 maybe Ill take that.
    what games do u like more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by konck View Post
    This line doesnt drop in gets bigger if anything. Seattle hands down is the best Defense in the NFL no one is close. The offense is ok also the public will lean towards betting the Seahawkers. Texans at home would seem to be a good play but I have a few games I like more if it goes to 4 maybe Ill take that.
    smart books will stay under 4 or they will get smashed with hou teaser sides more than they already are

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    smart books will stay under 4 or they will get smashed with hou teaser sides more than they already are
    I think it would be to the books adantage to put this game on a hook either way. It should draw lots of interest

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    I see +135 now, good enough.

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    Here we go......

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    I disagree here with this one. Seattle is the team to beat in the NFC so far. The Texans have been disappointing so far and has struggled so this is no lock. I will pass this game probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    I see +135 now, good enough.
    i settled at +130. lol

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    If this goes to -2.5 for SEA, holy shit pound it with your life.

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    Lakerboy posted Seattle.
    Beef up those Texans bets boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    ML is awful at the moment. +125
    That's why I'm putting this out so early. No way that lines stays +3
    It may go to a pick easily.
    I'm already locked in.
    It will not go to pick haha. What a bad prediction

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    NUUUUUUUUUUUUUTZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ i like it. coming back home after a shit show in baltimore. seattle weak road team. feelin it

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    Game already down to 2.5. Public will be on Seattle, sharps already on Houston heavy, and scooped up the +3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Game already down to 2.5. Public will be on Seattle, sharps already on Houston heavy, and scooped up the +3.
    at -125?

    lame. Paying -125 to give your self the possibility of a push is - ev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    at -125?

    lame. Paying -125 to give your self the possibility of a push is - ev
    Opened +3 E, bet all the way to +3 -125 before most Books gave up the ghost and moved to 2.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuesser View Post
    Opened +3 E, bet all the way to +3 -125 before most Books gave up the ghost and moved to 2.5.
    Yup, I posted it early for a reason.
    Ppl who slept on it get fukked on the line already if you like Houston.

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    if Texans +3 cashes then Texans ML probably cashes too.

    i'll probably just take ML if i decide to pound it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    if Texans +3 cashes then Texans ML probably cashes too.

    i'll probably just take ML if i decide to pound it
    that why i like the ml/tease option with these kind of dogs as if they happen to lose it rarely ever by more than a td.. longer you wait on ml the more it will prob suck if it anything like the hou/balty gm i kept waiting for more on balty and ended up with a something stupid low, and to me this gm mirrors that gm pretty closely..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Houston is 100% a better team than the Seahawks.


    Are you really that dumb? Must be chasing your value play on the Jaguars lol.

    The Texans could cover but saying they are 100% a better team is just foolish

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAYTON20 View Post


    Are you really that dumb? Must be chasing your value play on the Jaguars lol.

    The Texans could cover but saying they are 100% a better team is just foolish
    i think hou wins and still dont think it possible to call them the better team.. i mean you cant do a power ranking and not have seachickens 2 or 1 imo. just think hou will be better on sunday which all i need but still wouldnt put them in my top 5 or drop sea any..
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    This guy must be trying to bury the forum saying the Texans are a better team than the Seahawks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    i play 1 a week, just 2 teams 6 points.. generally one dog and a 7-9 point fav....1st glance id say hou/indy looks bout good as it gets..
    tease indy and baltimore. walk away from this game before you lose.

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