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Patriots pay certain positions certain capped out amounts. Welker may have wanted too much money allotted to th e position. Wes Welker is replaceable, and can be easily replaced by Troy brown right now with his crucial drops the last two postseasons.
Kraft and Belichek don't pay their players. The more I think about this it seems BillB can't forgive Welker for offhand comments he made during season and has chosen to play the "I'll-show-you" game with Wes. Brady must be fuming over this disrespect toward him, is there anyone who doesn't get that he took the reduced salary in an understanding that the Pats would in turn retain WW? Gotta say this - I'm a Pats fan but if Bill B. was coach elsewhere I wouldn't like him.
Anyone who has mouthed off in the media about Belichick/The Patriots Organization has eventually been shipped out.
Welker should have learned from Randy Moss how this was going to turn out.
Tom Brady knows the game-that is why even he never badmouths his coach/owner/organization.
They are still going to have a great offense with the pieces they have(and will have after the end of free agency/draft).
The area of focus needs to be defense for them, which is why Welker wasn't a priority.
They will make a run and succeed or fail based on what they do with the defense, not the offense because the offense is still good for about 30 a game.
if he had caught that easy pass in NYG 2nd superbowl loss(drop was the turning point absolutely)he would still be here. not that difficult to catch 100+ passes if you're thrown to 14-18 times a game in the slot. welker simply lost a step and whined his way out of foxboro. easily replaceable.
I think it was a mindgame that BB had decided long ago. He with his Mount Everest size ego wont forgive any kind of critical notes towards him..especially by his own players. They could not just ship the guy out for him being such an important part of their offense. They offered him a deal so lame that he just got an anger burstThey insulted him with no words but numbers... Probably offered him a kickers salary
Good example is Dallas Mavs owner Cuban, jew with an ego size of Pacific. He shipped away Steve Nash , good friend and parter of Dirk just before Nash reached his peak! Nash asked more money, money he was worth as he had become a huge factor for Dallas.... that was it. Phoenix made and offer, Nash asked jew to match it... He told him to go F... himself..." I make the rules here! I say who is killed and who is not killed" Nash went and became 2 time league MVP. I am telling you . Dallas would have won 2006 NBA finals with Nash... no doubt. So dumbfuck jew... and his ego lost. Same is likely going to happen to BB and his ego. Pats will suffer.
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The patriots didnt even want to sign the guy for the 2012 season... We all saw it coming... Now if Welker was a black dude everyone and their mother would be all over this guy. Talking about how hes so great and blah blah blah. But nope, a short white guy. Nobody cares about him.
Belichek knows what he is doing. When they fail again next year to win anything he will blame it on the front office for not signing Wes Walker hence securing his job.
I'm glad because I like Welker, the only thing I didn't like was the team he played for (or more specifically, the coach he played for).
Originally Posted by geebert74
Yeh, that was a big factor, I mentioned that as well.
Benny BigNuts.....this is a good post. A lot of overrated tools on this website are gonna say stuff and suck on each others nuts to make real sports fans look stupid. It's called fragile internet egos.
Amendola will probably get injured by week 5 and the Patriots will struggle to get to 10 wins. Even thought they play in a joke of a division that basically hands them 5 to 6 wins a year anyways because of the weak divisional teams in the AFC east.
Texans vs. Broncos in the AFC championship next year.
Perfect pick up for the Broncos... Manning going to have some fun this season!
Well, Welker was offered 2/10 + 6mil in incentives by the Pats, and he said the offer was laughable and then signs a 2/12 +2M in incentives, he was also reportedly offered a 2/17 deal that he turned down.
So really the fact the Broncos go him for that deal smells of a lot of penetrate You deal for the Pats cutting his playing time early this year and franchising him last year and I dont think he was ever going to sign a reasonable deal with the Pats.
Todays NFL isn't just about getting talent its about properly allocating resources now and in the future to keep talent at the maximum.
Welker will have an easier time fulfilling incentives playing in the weak AFC West than playing in the stronger AFC East.
Pats don't need him to win the AFC East, he's a system player anyway.
from bill barnwell
"To understand why the Patriots are comfortable letting Wes Welker walk to Denver while replacing him with Danny Amendola, you have to go back to March 2007 and appreciate what led the Patriots to Welker in the first place.
When Bill Belichick dealt second- and seventh-round picks to the Dolphins to acquire Welker in 2007, he wasn't bringing in a player with much of a pedigree. Welker went unselected in the 2004 draft, and while he made the Chargers out of training camp, San Diego cut him after the opening week of the season. Every team in the league got a second chance to acquire Welker for free, and each of them passed. Welker cleared waivers and made it to the Dolphins, where he spent one year as a returner and special teams grunt before eventually working his way into regular offensive reps. Unable to beat out the immortal Chris Chambers and Marty Booker for spots in a below-average passing attack, Welker started just three games during his three seasons in Miami. He caught 96 passes for 1,121 yards and one touchdown. Not in his last year. Across all three years.
Belichick treats second-round picks like they're manna from heaven, and he dealt a second-rounder and a seventh-rounder to the Dolphins to acquire Welker.1 Don't look back at that decision with what we know about Welker now; look back at it with what we knew about Welker at the time. He was hardly a sure thing; he was a receiver perceived to be a situational player with limited upside, Brandon Stokley with a fumbling problem (12 on 390 touches in Miami, a total that he matched over 817 touches with New England). Belichick didn't sign Welker for what he was. Belichick signed Welker for what he thought Welker could be.
Forgive me for sounding like Amendola's agent again for a moment, but his professional résumé before joining the Patriots simply blows Welker's pre-Pats career away. There are some similarities, of course. After the career at Texas Tech, Amendola went undrafted and became a practice squad guy, bouncing around the Cowboys and Eagles for about a year before eventually catching on with a bad team. The Rams used Amendola as a return guy before pushing him into the lineup as a situational receiver out of the slot. Unlike Welker, Amendola was the focal point of the Rams' passing attack, leading them in most receiving categories (including targets) in 2010. After missing virtually all of 2011 with a torn triceps, Amendola's 11-game season in 2012 prorates out to a 91-catch, 968-yard campaign. He'll join the Patriots with more than twice as many career catches and nearly twice as many yards as Welker had when he joined. He also won't cost the team a draft pick and has just $10 million guaranteed on his five-year deal, which is less than what Welker received as part of his two-year pact with the Broncos.
The biggest dig on Amendola is his health, but even that's been distorted in the analyses I've seen of this swap. Amendola suffered one major season-ending injury during his time with the Rams, a dislocated elbow. Over that same four-year stretch, Welker suffered one major season-ending injury, a torn ACL against the Texans. Amendola had the misfortune of suffering his injury in Week 1, while Welker's injury came during Week 17, allowing him to recuperate during the offseason before returning (as a limited version of his former self) without missing any regular-season games. This should go without saying, but you don't get to choose when you go down with a season-ending injury. The timing of each player's injury means something in terms of their past availability for their respective teams, but those two injuries are of equal relevance in predicting their future availability for their new teams. In fact, if anything, the Welker injury is scarier; a torn ACL for a player in his early-30s is much more worrisome than a dislocated elbow2 for a player in his mid-20s. Signing Amendola also doesn't preclude the Patriots from drafting another slot receiver in the late rounds (or signing one as an undrafted free agent) and attempting to develop him into a possible replacement if Amendola does go down with an injury.
What this eventually boils down to is the innate fear of change that fans have with regard to their team's stars. Most people are loath to give up on something good until it's been proven that a once-productive player can no longer perform at the same level. That's understandable, but it's a terrible way to run a football team. Belichick knows that, and he's spent 13 years moving on from players at exactly the right time. Patriots fans probably remember the case of Lawyer Milloy, who was released just before the 2003 season before catching on with the Bills and leading them to a 31-0 victory over the Patriots in Week 1. The Patriots went 17-1 after that and won the Super Bowl. When it wasn't Lawyer Milloy, it was Randy Moss. Or Ty Law. Or Richard Seymour. Or Deion Branch. Or Adam Vinatieri.3 At some point, Belichick might deserve the benefit of the doubt in these situations.
This all shouldn't really be much of a surprise. Belichick has had two years to give Welker a long-term contract and hasn't expressed even the slightest bit of interest in doing so. Having reportedly been given the final shot at matching what most people characterize as a modest two-year deal from the Broncos, Belichick turned the opportunity down. The Patriots are not built on getting every last drop out of their older players until they can no longer go. They've been built by having one constant — Tom Brady — and otherwise relying on change. They're the team that drafted one guy with a bum back and another who couldn't stop smoking weed and turned them into the most devastating set of tight ends in league history, a one-two strategy that teams around the league have tried to emulate since. They're the team that bought low on Moss and went to a scheme with spread characteristics before anyone else in the league had the balls to do so. And they're the team that went after Welker when he was a backup on a bad offense and ended up getting 672 catches and five Pro Bowls of output before moving on. Welker will very likely play well in Denver, as he'll spend two years catching passes from Peyton Manning in an offense that might even suit him better than the one he's leaving. But the Patriots will do just fine without him. They always do.
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Alot of what he says is true. But he undersells Welker in Miami.
But his last year in Miami he has 67/687 which led the team in both categories despite the cast that he has 99 targets while Chambers at 150, Mcmicheal 96 and Booker 90. He led the team in with a reception percentage of 67 and maybe his counting totals looked low because he has Joey Harrington, post knee Culpepper and Cleo freakin' Lemon throwing passes.
good stuff
Never underestimate the genius that is Bill Belichek, he will draft Denard Robinson and turn him into a superstar and win another couple of Super Bowls while Peyton Manning will add to his record number of playoff losses.
Welker will feel rejuvenated in Denver... He's going to have one hell of a year... and Manning will love what he brings to the table. It's a no win situation with the Pats... they had to get rid of him... sometimes... it's just your time to go.
BennyBig is right... Pats screwed up BIG TIME..
they squabbled over peanuts, and dissed their top receiver ever..
so they won't give Welker $12 Million... (5X Pro Bowl, 4X All Pro, 3X NFL leading receiver)
PATS were chintzing over a paltry $2 Million
and then turn around and give an undrafted nobody $31 Million
.. Amendola has 7 touchdowns in 4 yrs. in the NFL
$31 Million to a guy averaging 1.75 Touchdowns a year. (Amendola)
broncos win it all this year. If Manning had Welker last year, Broncos might have won it.
Wes Welker was a undrafted nobody at one point....
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true, but the pats won't hit that lottery ticket twice in a row..
they were lucky to hit it once.
Pats are done
Welker disappeared in last Super Bowl. Fukkin butter fingers. Didn't win shit with the Patriots so who cares. Bellichek's time is coming.....no SBs since 2004.
guy will have a solid season in Denver playing in a shitty division and thats about it. Not getting anywhere in the playoffs again.
you lose all credibility in the first sentence when you say welker made brady's career and a million wins and superbowls. welker or not brady was going to hall of fame cause he won his 3 superbowls before welker got there...welker is still superbowl-less
I wouldn't call them done....Belichick seems to come out on top of these things more times then not. Even if this Amendola is half the player Welker was for the Pats they will still make the playoffs. Only time will tell if this move actually pays off.
I know all you homos like to do on here is instantly look to rip ppl who post a thread, and it's why this forum has so little volume of posters and the same 10 degens putting up threads all day.
I'm not a reporter.
I don't jerk off to every little detail because I have a life.
But it's basically 95% accurate.
And yes, Welker didn't win a Superbowl that was my bad.
He's definitely made Brady's life easier offensively since he got there.
Get a life brah.
false. that pass was:
1_) unnecessarily made him jump. Welk was WIDE OPEN
2) behind him.. he NOT ONLY had to jump, he had to do a 150˚degree spin clockwise.. unexpectedly.
the play and throw were both quick,*
That was really on Brady. *Pass never touched his numbers. That is where you put that throw,*
he had to take three quick steps backwards.*all he could do was get his hands on it.
All the replays only show the end of the drop.. not the adjustments he had to make that took him off balance.
compare that throw to Manning to Manningham... right in his hands , breadbasket
The Pats would rather have a 27-year-old Welker than a 32-year-old Welker going into next season.
And a 29 year old Brady, a 26 year old Wilfork and a 49 year old Belichick.
Thanks Adam Shefter.
Wait for Danny to turn in similar stats as welker you will understand why.
Amendola is younger, faster, and has possibility of being just as good of a receiver, with a QB that can throw to him.
Bradford stayed on his ass half the time with no time to throw.
Welker had several concussions past cpl years, he is good but very replaceable.
Watch for Amendola to replace welker in a fashionable way.
He will prove his worth.
WTF are you guys beefing about the Pats fuked up here easy one.
Manning/Welker ....there maybe a commercial soon where Manning
asks his car radio ...well what do you think ....and the radio plays
We are the Champions!!!!
You team Welker with Manning at that price lol if your thinking this
isnt money please bet the Rubber Bandaids plays they are made for you.
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