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Now that the game is over, what were the books doing?
Please explain.
Pinny closed 40 cents higher than Bovada on the ML. Greek was 50 cents higher. These are things you hardly ever see from such a small ML number -- especially given the magnitude of the game, and that the Ravens were a pretty popular public dog. Were they just that off in what they anticipated from this game?
coin give it up, you do realize that pinnacle and greek dont win every game, even the biggest game of the year?
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They're looking to take your next dime!
There were some large discrepancies on the SF ML during live betting also, was surprised.
Nothing to worry about, both books have a different client base and with a game like this they may not necessarily get exactly the same sort of action as each other, and therefore have to adjust their line accoring to their own liabilities.
Not only that, but with the Superbowl, if you really want to completely balance your action, then you kinda have to take into account what sort of position you have on the "to win Superbowl" futures as well I think, as technically your futures liability on each team could now be added to the ML liability you have for the game and create a lopsided position one way or another forcing the book to adjust their ML accordingly.
Last thing I saw Sunday morning was that San Francisco money was pouring into Vegas, so I think the books did quite nicely.
The books and all public consensuses played all the line readers of SBR but me for a foolOriginally Posted by No coincidences
that I am aware of...........
I warned you all in the link below but you were to damn stubborn to listen...............
To everyone wagering on the Superbowl
The books Put their hands right up your shirts
Pulled the strings that make you all work
Jaws parted, words fell out
Just Like the fish that placed the hook in its own mouth..................
Trinity u are correct. If u use pinny for a gage that's fine, but they are not right all the time. If they were we would win all the time.
They were reacting to the money.
They were looking to take your last dime!
They were reacting to the money!
They were looking to take your last five & dime!
Every single recreational gambler I knew, like myself, had big wagers on the Ravens, playing the whole "Ray Lewis" angle. I had three buddies call me Sunday morning and ask me about the line moving in SF's favor. I told them Vegas doesn't typically give away free money -- especially on a dog. They said they didn't care and threw more money on Baltimore anyway. Long-term, that's not a smart decision. Just surprised that books would do this in the Super Bowl of all events. There was either a ton of isolated big money on SF, or more public money on SF than I believe. I honestly think it was the former, given the books that were reacting vs. standing pat. You didn't see Bovada, for instance, moving their line in SF's favor hardly at all.The books and all public consensuses played all the line readers of SBR but me for a fool
I warned you all in the link below but you were to damn stubborn to listen...............
To everyone wagering on the Superbowl
The books Put their hands right up your shirts
Pulled the strings that make you all work
Jaws parted, words fell out
Just Like the fish that placed the hook in its own mouth..................
Will wait to see if Vegas won or lost on the Nevada gaming commission Superbowl report............
I think the action was pretty even overall. I also think the books were confident in a SF victory. You don't see the sharpest book in the world offering a dog at 40 cents more than the rec. books very often on a short line like this -- if ever.
Spread finished 50/50. they got hosed on the ML with wager amounts.
Sf outgains balt by 100 yards. They also lost the turnover battle and gave up a 108 yd td on a kick return, thats enough to swing a game right there and sf still had a chance to win at the end.
The big whales always follow line movement. So when the line moved from -3.5 to -4 they started pouring money on SF and moved it to -4.5. Unfortunately in sports players and coaches decide the outcome of games..not line movements.
if the game would have landed with sf winning by 1-3 points the books would have cleaned house yesterday
It was one game... one win/one loss
One game means nothing in the large scope for bettors and the bookies
Dimes only lost $250,000 on the ATS..............
I personally believe they wanted S.F ML to win. Baltimore spread to hit. That would of been perfect for Vegas. It just didn't happen.
they were trying to burry the squares
Wouldn't big money be moving the line, and not the other way around?
Do you have any idea how much is wagered on the Super Bowl?
Hint: it's a little more than tonight's Syracuse/Notre Dame college basketball game.
The books absolutely struggled with this game. Their live lines were weird all night.
I was able to get SF +10 live, and they have Ravens all the way up to +180 when San Fran was in the redzone on that last drive.
Good thread, wanna read more about this later, but gotta run.
From Saturday night on my book would not budge off Ravens -3 +110. I was forced to take it due to a secure bet promo. Was not happy getting such a crappy number.
Also, had total at 49. Kinda worked cause it moved me from taking the over as I did not want to lose on the 48.
Also, had terrible odds on Ed Reed getting an int. not cool.
When did you get SF +10? Pleanty of reasonable times you could have got that.
Every square bag I know took SF. Couldn't pass up +190 ravens....afterall, they ARE in the superbowl.
Late 1st half.
It was +8.5 moments before and moments after.
Considering I was on Ravens +5 for the game, it was impossible for me to pass up.
In Superbowls most of the sharps lose on sides. They make their money in props.
nocoin...pinny will move a price due to a sharp player... a rec book like bovada will move the square line(yes, they deal multiple lines) due to money ... huge difference... pinnacle doesnt give a shit if nocoin bets 50k on a play, but will take notice if Durito bets 1k ... you dig?
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013...in-super-bowl/
Books made money on the Super Bowl for the fifth straight year, making a profit on the most bet-on game in sports each year for the 20th time in the last 22 seasons.
i guess from your article i called it
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...-probe?cc=5901
durito does not bet nfl sides.
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