1. 01-12-13 04:39 PM #1
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    Why Does Denver Even Need John Fox For?

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  2. 01-12-13 04:40 PM #2
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    No reason on offense thats for sure. He tends to have pretty good D's though.
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    Peyton cant technically be the head coach too. This isnt SemiPro
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  4. 01-12-13 04:46 PM #4
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    Same reason the Heat need Spoelstra.
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    unreal.
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  6. 01-12-13 04:48 PM #6
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    Why did Indianapolis need Dungy? No reason at all. That's the reason why the team was better after he left.
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    Lol. I was thinking the same thing. Peyton runs that offense so he's their offensive co ordinator. Do they even have an OC
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    Why did Indianapolis need Dungy? No reason at all. That's the reason why the team was better after he left.
    wow, please tell me you are joking......

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Dungy

    that tampa team that won the superbowl was his team basically. he got all the parts in gruden came in and just won it. how many playoffs games did gruden win since?
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    About 5 minutes ago... I saw John Fox doing this... like intensely. I was wondering if he was coaching or being a spectator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverstoppers23 View Post
    wow, please tell me you are joking......
    He was 2-4 in Tampa during the playoffs, Gruden won the super bowl the year after he left.
    He was a loser in the playoffs in Indy too. Manning took them to the super bowl the year after he left.

    Calling "cover 2" every play isn't a game plan. Dungy sucks and he rode Manning's coat tail but never got blamed for the losses, but got all the credit in the world when they won.
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    They need Fox so they can have practices on time and work on their game. The coach doesn't play. His job is to make players play to their potential and get along with each other.
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    LOL, you people make me laugh with your knowledge of sports. good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverstoppers23 View Post
    wow, please tell me you are joking......

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Dungy

    that tampa team that won the superbowl was his team basically. he got all the parts in gruden came in and just won it. how many playoffs games did gruden win since?
    A GM can put together the players but do you think Scott Pioli or any GM could scheme all the plays? Dungy knew nothing about the Manning offense and all he did on defense was call COVER 2. What value did he add?

    Gruden could call plays, gruden could scheme, gruden could win when he had the talent.

    Dungy had a super bowl team for 4 freaking years and lost every year and usually in the first or 2nd round. He could not scheme to save his life. He gets booted and then they finally win after he's gone. He's the biggest chock artist out there. He makes Marty look like Vince Lombardi.
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    You can ask the same question about their OC Mike McCoy. What does the guy even do. Peyton changes the plays all the time anyway.
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    he needs to bring someone in at half to teach a quick seminar on how to play pass defense...
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    Manning is a big time choker in the playoffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    Manning is a big time choker in the playoffs
    Manning just played a great first half, 2 tds. Coach makes bad call for a FG to change momentum and D is letting him down in the big game once again.... you are a \*\*\*\*\*\*

    poor decision by John Fox... just confirmed by a SB winning HC himself the Steelers old coach
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  18. 01-12-13 05:28 PM #18
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    somebody explain why ANYONE would hire Peyton Manning's OC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Gold View Post
    Why did Indianapolis need Dungy? No reason at all. That's the reason why the team was better after he left.
    He was better than Jim Caldwell. Caldwell made bunch of stupid mistakes like calling timeout in playoffs against jets, which allowed jets to score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pazim View Post
    He was better than Jim Caldwell. Caldwell made bunch of stupid mistakes like calling timeout in playoffs against jets, which allowed jets to score.
    Dungy was the king of calling unneccesary timeouts. He was an ultraconservative loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    somebody explain why ANYONE would hire Peyton Manning's OC?
    Because he can see the defensive schemes from the top and message Manning in his helmet to change the play. Do you think Manning has bird eye vision?
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  22. 01-12-13 05:34 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Because he can see the defensive schemes from the top and message Manning in his helmet to change the play. Do you think Manning has bird eye vision?

    Manning has been the same for 10+ years, think all of his OC's were that good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    Manning has been the same for 10+ years, think all of his OC's were that good?
    I didn't say the OC is good. It's like the spotter in Nascar. Someone needs to tell the driver where trouble is. So the OC can tell Manning what he sees and Manning can plan ahead for the next play.
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  24. 01-12-13 05:37 PM #24
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    well how could you tell how good the OC is if he has a stud QB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    well how could you tell how good the OC is if he has a stud QB?
    Look at Flacco. After they fired Cam Cameron he is playing better than Peyton Manning.
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  26. 01-12-13 06:15 PM #26
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    So someone could throw the challenge flag..
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  27. 01-12-13 06:20 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    No reason on offense thats for sure. He tends to have pretty good D's though.
    This.

    He is a defensive minded coach with a bend but dont break philosophy.

    He used to be the coach of my Carolina Panthers...

    I grew to hate him bc of his loyalty to fukk up Jake Delhomme

    6 turnover in the last Panthers playoff game... and what do the Panthers do???

    give him a pay raise and contract extension with more guaranteed millions

    I also hate how fukking conservative he was....

    Always running the ball on 3rd and long..

    also he was a douche bag when talking to the media/fans never saying anything other than "it is what it is"

    He never ever tried to engage or embrace the Panthers fans.. i was sure glad to see him go.
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    Peyton Manning shit his pants since this thread was started.
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  29. 01-13-13 03:12 AM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    Manning just played a great first half, 2 tds. Coach makes bad call for a FG to change momentum and D is letting him down in the big game once again.... you are a \*\*\*\*\*\*

    poor decision by John Fox... just confirmed by a SB winning HC himself the Steelers old coach
    like i said, manning is a big time choker
    case closed.
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  30. 01-13-13 03:21 AM #30
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    this is the prob with peyton..over analyzing..love it when he wins but when he deliberately kills the tempo and momentum, its infuriating to watch...it def the worst kind of loss when you should have won.
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  31. 01-13-13 03:22 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    like i said, manning is a big time choker
    case closed.
    damn that Manning for driving the team to a TD with a TD pass to take the lead more than half-way through the 4th quarter!

    damn that Manning for giving up a 70 yard bomb with 40 seconds left, when all you have to do is give up catches and tackle those Birds in bounds

    f ucking choker

    why does Manning even try to play defense, he should just stick to offense
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  32. 01-13-13 04:37 AM #32
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    This game has some much blame to go to I don't even know where to start. I know one thing for sure, I will not blame Peyton Manning or the Broncos offense for this lost.

    Fox ultra conservative playing deprived Denver for a chance to win twice.

    The Broncos had 31 seconds left in regulation with two time outs, why not try to get into field. After all you have one of the best passing QB in the league right? Instead he takes a knee.

    The other play was coming out of the two minute warning. Instead of trying to convert a 3rd and 7 by passing Fox went ultraconservative by handing it off. Terrible play calling because a 1st would of sealed it. If the failed to convert the, Ravens would still got the ball back with less than 2 minutes and no time outs.

    I'm probably rambling too much right now, but the Broncos don't deserve to be in the AFC Championship playing like that. Super bowl teams do not allow garbage teams like the ravens to hang around.
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  33. 01-13-13 06:44 AM #33
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    3rd down and 7....first down wins the game....run up the middle.

    36 seconds left in the game...2 timeouts at own 20....need a fg to win game....take a knee.

    Coaches who don't have balls should not have jobs. Pack up ur chit and leave if you don't have any guts
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