1. 01-09-13 10:29 AM #71
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    What post did I talk about juice being even?

    You are completely over the rainbow kid

    LINE -1 -2 -2.5 -3-3.5 -4 -4.5 infinity.........................
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  2. 01-09-13 10:30 AM #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    What post did I talk about juice being even?

    You are completely over the rainbow kid

    LINE -1 -2 -2.5 -3-3.5 -4 -4.5 infinity.........................
    You specifically said "the public moved the line" to -2.5 from -1.

    The line hasn't moved and the public is split. You have no idea what you're talking about, as per usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post

    You specifically said "the public moved the line."

    The line hasn't moved and the public is split. You have no idea what you're talking about, as per usual.
    Who do you think moved the line?

    the man behind the curtain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Who do you think moved the line?

    the man behind the curtain?
    The line didn't move you fvcking moron, and even if it had, what makes you think the "public" -- which is split on this game so far -- did over sharp money?

    As LT pointed out a long time ago, there is no difference between -1 heavily juiced and -2.5. Look at the ML since it opened.

    Please tell me you aren't this dense. Please.
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    I'm from the ATL bruh, and the Falcons are gonna rise up this weekend!! Julio is the last piece of the puzzle for these dirty birds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post

    The line didn't move you fvcking moron, and even if it had, what makes you think the "public" -- which is split on this game so far -- did over sharp money?

    As LT pointed out a long time ago, there is no difference between -1 heavily juiced and -2.5. Look at the ML since it opened.

    Please tell me you aren't this dense. Please.
    this game is basically a ML game with ATS numbers on the side,

    get it NOW?

    I doubt you ever will....................

    Can you name any ATS juiced numbers no matter where line is set besides this game?


    you will definitely be looking for a while to find one..............

    When you move ATS numbers the juice normally evens out but not in this game you dense fukktard you

    meaning these numbers are highly manipulated....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    this game is basically a ML game with ATS numbers on the side,

    get it NOW?

    I doubt you ever will....................

    Can you name any ATS juiced numbers no matter where line is set besides this game?


    you will definitely be looking for a while to find one..............

    When you move ATS numbers the juice normally evens out but not in this game you dense fukktard you

    meaning these numbers are highly manipulated....................
    Once again, provide me with information indicating the public is on Atlanta. You still haven't, and you won't.

    Atlanta is anywhere from -1 and being heavily juiced, to -2.5 with very little juice, to +3 at a + number. The ML has barely moved since the open. In other words, much ado about nothing.

    I'm done with you. This is my last response to you re: anything. You are off the reservation. Keep trolling me and my threads all you want, but our "conversations" are finished because you are obviously clueless. The only thing you'll ever get from me again is an occasional point or two so that you can bet it and scratch the itch you brokedick loser.

    Incredible that I've wasted all this time on a game I have no opinion on.
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    Now the reason oddsmakers are doing this is to keep action down on this game which is working like clockwork...........

    only 7% of the action/$ of Hou/NE game.............

    only 7.5% of the action/$ of GB/SF game............

    only 45% of the action/$ of Bal/Den game............
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    no coin you are right but what is your point?
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  10. 01-09-13 11:17 AM #80
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    The best statement I seen on this thread was Atlanta having a soft schedule and Seatle playing a tougher one. This speaks volumes when a team gets to the playoffs. They are battle tested and ready for the fight. I just can't get by watching Atlanta play soft week in week out. They are not a pysical team and you have to be pysical in the playoffs. Defense wins championships and Atlanta doen't have a very good one! Until they burn me i going against these paper tigers. Love thy brother
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    What site do you get those % numbers of amounts of action on particular games?
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    physical sorry to all the grammer police on this site
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    NF
    Betting Trends
    Team Open Sportsbook Hilton Caesars MGM Stations Offshore 5Dimes Bookmaker Side Money Total
    01/12/2013 4:30 PM EST
    01/13/2013 1:00 PM EST
    113 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 45.5 45.5 46.5 46 46 45.5 45.5o10 46 46 36% 51% 62%
    114 ATLANTA FALCONS -2 -2.5 -15 -3 -05 -2.5 -2.5 -2.5 -1 -25 -2.5 -15 -3 -05 64% 49% 38%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZINISTER View Post
    The best statement I seen on this thread was Atlanta having a soft schedule and Seatle playing a tougher one. This speaks volumes when a team gets to the playoffs. They are battle tested and ready for the fight. I just can't get by watching Atlanta play soft week in week out. They are not a pysical team and you have to be pysical in the playoffs. Defense wins championships and Atlanta doen't have a very good one! Until they burn me i going against these paper tigers. Love thy brother
    Amen
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    Thanks I bet old school don't have any online accounts but seriously considering it next season. Sick of getn shit lines from my dude.
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    Schedule wasn't that soft. While NO, Carolina and TB may not be playoff teams they are still tough teams to beat, and they played them twice. They also beat Skins, Denver, cowboys, giants and Lions playoff or near playoff teams.

    I just can't understand why people keep saying it's a soft schedule but we are ready to hand the SB to Denver who has had a even softer schedule.

    Just poking around you know who had a hard schedule? JAGS 9 of their games were playoff teams and the others were tough. Weakest team they played was Tenn and they beat them once.
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    The bye will screw them if anything......................
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    So we have people betting on a rookie QB that lost to cousins at Michigan state, yet you think he can beat matt ryan in Atlanta? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.. Matt Ryan has never won a playoff game, which makes betting on Seattle that much dumber. Matt Ryan and the Falcons will never hear the end of it if they lose. Falcons D is underrated as well. Remember what they did to peyton manning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    The bye will screw them if anything......................
    They played their starters in last game of the season. Most teams with a bye don't play their starters in last game of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    They played their starters in last game of the season. Most teams with a bye don't play their starters in last game of the season.
    Still had a week with no action...............

    Sitting out has proved to be a disadvantage in recent years..............


    Especially when going up against the hottest team in the NFC.............
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    I've been a Falcons fan since 92. When they had deion, andre rison, eric Metcalf, jeff George in 94. They got knocked out in 1st round of playoffs against green bay that year. I know this team inside and out. The Secondary alone could all be in the probowl. Decoud had so many picks the season. William moore who they are getting back was laying the smackdown on people all year. Asante Samuel and Daunte Robinson basically shut down everyone. Witherspoon beast linebacker. Got john Abraham to put some pressure on the qb. Then offensively you already know. This is by far the easiest bet on the board.
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    The Falcons are tired of hearing how they always choke......their fans are sick of it too so they'll be amped up and loud. They showed me something when they kicked the absolute $hit out of the Giants in a revenge game. They're a dome team....of course they're a little soft but this one is in their dome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Dalamar View Post
    Schedule wasn't that soft. While NO, Carolina and TB may not be playoff teams they are still tough teams to beat, and they played them twice. They also beat Skins, Denver, cowboys, giants and Lions playoff or near playoff teams.

    I just can't understand why people keep saying it's a soft schedule but we are ready to hand the SB to Denver who has had a even softer schedule.

    Just poking around you know who had a hard schedule? JAGS 9 of their games were playoff teams and the others were tough. Weakest team they played was Tenn and they beat them once.
    I'll explain it to you--it's the combination of the schedule & where the D is ranked in total yds 21-23 those are terrible D rankings for a team that only played 2 playoff teams.By contrast seattle played 5 playoff teams before beating wash & their D is ranked 6th &10th respectively.If you look at pts for & against you'll see seattle's offence is within a TD of ATL while playing much tougher competition while seattle's D allowed far fewer points to tougher competition.Atl also has a history of just plain not showing up for big games in their own building.
    As for Denver their D did take advantage of their soft schedule but I think the NFC wins the SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Handicapable View Post
    The Falcons are tired of hearing how they always choke......their fans are sick of it too so they'll be amped up and loud. They showed me something when they kicked the absolute $hit out of the Giants in a revenge game. They're a dome team....of course they're a little soft but this one is in their dome.

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    That's what they said when GB won & the Giants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Dalamar View Post
    Schedule wasn't that soft. While NO, Carolina and TB may not be playoff teams they are still tough teams to beat, and they played them twice. They also beat Skins, Denver, cowboys, giants and Lions playoff or near playoff teams.

    I just can't understand why people keep saying it's a soft schedule but we are ready to hand the SB to Denver who has had a even softer schedule.

    Just poking around you know who had a hard schedule? JAGS 9 of their games were playoff teams and the others were tough. Weakest team they played was Tenn and they beat them once.
    According to 2012 wins and losses (108-148), ATL had the softest schedule in the NFL this year. Lions and AZ had the toughest, JAX tied at #3. http://nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-strength-of-schedule/

    Even according to 2011 wins and losses (125-131), ATL had the 7th easiest schedule going into this season. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...th-of-schedule

    They only played 2 playoff teams, DEN and WAS, and both of them were early, they played their best at the end.

    Granted, ATL can only play teams on their schedule, but it does leave the question open to how good they really are.
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    How come no one debates the fact the game starts at 10:00 am Seattle time?
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    Slacker with true factual info as usual................
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    How come no one debates the fact the game starts at 10:00 am Seattle time?
    Because nobody cares, it's such a weak point. They went to Chicago and won a game starting at 10am Seattle time.
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    Here are the facts:

    Atlanta played the AFC West, the NFC East, their divisional teams twice and Detroit and Arizona

    Seattle played AFC East, NFC North, their divisional teams twice and Dallas and Carolina

    I have no idea why people say Atlanta's schedule was soft and Seattle's schedule was tough but you can't dispute the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Because nobody cares, it's such a weak point. They went to Chicago and won a game starting at 10am Seattle time.
    It was 11 am Seattle time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Here are the facts:

    Atlanta played the AFC West, the NFC East, their divisional teams twice and Detroit and Arizona

    Seattle played AFC East, NFC North, their divisional teams twice and Dallas and Carolina

    I have no idea why people say Atlanta's schedule was soft and Seattle's schedule was tough but you can't dispute the facts.
    Seattle played 6 games against playoff teams, ATL played 2. Big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    It was 11 am Seattle time.
    How do you figure? It was 1pm EST kickoff, same as this weekend's game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    That's what they said when GB won & the Giants.
    You mean the last 2 SB champions.....last one in the cold. Seattle is a good YOUNG team but they still have a rookie QB and just lost their best pass rusher against a passing team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Handicapable View Post
    You mean the last 2 SB champions.....last one in the cold. Seattle is a good YOUNG team but they still have a rookie QB and just lost their best pass rusher against a passing team.
    This is a big loss. Maybe the single biggest point that gets lost in some of these trivial debates about time of kickoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Seattle played 6 games against playoff teams, ATL played 2. Big difference.
    The reason teams didn't make the playoffs is because Atlanta beat them. Teams like the
    Giants and Cowboys and Chargers didn't make the playoffs because Atlanta beat them.
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