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How significant is Calvin Johnson breaking the reception yards record?
No doubt that he will break it now. But really how impressive is breaking such a record? Lions a dome team and played majority of their games indoors. But more importantly in the current game wide receivers are almost untouchable and even the slightest of contacts is called an interference and the game favors offenses so much. This record will probably be broken again in near future as well. So how significant is the new record?
It really isn't that impressive given the new rules. Last year 10 QBs threw for over 4k and 3 over 5k. In 2001 on two QBs threw for over 4k.
that sf team of rice had more talent
if rice was on this detroit team he would have 2500 yards
I just hope calvin doesn't think he is the greatest of all time like Drew Brees
I remember, before the season started, he said he was gunning for 2000 yards
At this rate, he just might get it
even when he breaks it he is still no where close to rice
If Jerry Rice were playing in his prime today the record would be 2500 yards and 35 touchdowns.
means nothing. did jerry rice play for teams like this in sf?
besides the rule changes aren't there more games per season now? Think jerry only had 14 regular season games..could be wrong on that but thought I heard it somewhere. Between rule changes and shorter season in my eyes Jerry still holds the record..and I hate the 49ers but that's how I see it.
No, Jerry Rice played 16 games a year
Inflated numbers-debatable
I'm gonna be the first person to fire back and say the numbers are not as inflated:
Offensive line had pass protect long enough
this year, as opposed to last, a lot more YAC's, drag patterns, crossing patterns, took a serious beating out there, this year
Still produced even though the other receiving options weren't as strong. Burleson went down, T.Young, J.Best, Pettigrew missed a little, ryan Broyles went down-Calvin took on a lot of double teams because of the lack of depth
this is why I will not dismiss this so quickly as an inflated record
Gruden made a good point. That good 9ers team either had lead or were in competitive games. How many of Calvin's yds have come in garbage time with game out of reach? Stafford also on pace to set pass attempt record.
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At least those guys didn't give up like so many other players on losing teams do.
1995 was a crazy year for receivers. Up to that point, only a couple receivers had recorded 1600+ yards in a year. Those two guys only played 14 games I think. 4 guys surpassed 1600 yards in 95. Heck, I was looking at the receiving leaders and even Robert Brooks and Brett Perriman had close to 1500 yards.
LOL can not believe this is even a debate
calvin is a joke compared to rice
doesnt matter because his team isnt a contender...at least Rice and the teams he was apart of were contenders every year
Rice played 16 games when he set the record on 122 receptions.
Rice had 15 TDs that year and lead the league in TDs 6 times, Calvin has 5 TDs this year. Yards are fine, but TDs mean more. The fact the Lions have 11 losses suggests this isn't much of an accomplishment. Watching the games, he does seem to get a lot of yards in garbage time playing against a prevent defense with time running out. Contrast that to Rice whose team had 9 double digit wins that year, Rice wasn't racking up garbage yards, his QB was taking a knee.
So if Adrian Peterson breaks the Rushing Record then his record isn't legit either?Originally Posted by Killer_Demo
Is it Johnson's fault that his team's defense is horrid and they have no running game? So his new record should be in question?
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He has the record, plain and simple.
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Stafford is going to get the passes attempted in a season record too.
Top 15.
Player Year Yards Calvin Johnson, Det.
2012 1,892 Jerry Rice, S.F. 1995 1,848 Isaac Bruce, StL. 1995 1,781 Charlie Hennigan, Hou. 1961 1,746 Marvin Harrison, Ind. 2002 1,722 Torry Holt, StL. 2003 1,696 Herman Moore, Det. 1995 1,686 Calvin Johnson, Det.
2011 1,681 Marvin Harrison, Ind. 1999 1,663 Jimmy Smith, Jac. 1999 1,636 Torry Holt, StL. 2000 1,635 Randy Moss, Min. 2003 1,632 Michael Irvin, Dal. 1995 1,603 Lance Alworth, S.D. 1965 1,602 Rod Smith, Den. 2000 1,602
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when was the last time Detroit won a superbowl? oh thats right NEVER. Last time Vikings won a ring? oh thats right they dont have one either
So I guess if Peterson breaks the record to it doesn't matter because Vikings suck?? Johnson team sucks not his failt and he's getting double teamed every game. For those of you who think rice would crush Johnson are insane. In today's football if you had a draft teams would draft Johnson before rice even knowing their skill set. Rice was a product of a west coast offense where you will catch a lot of passes and 2 hall of game qbs. So please children! Hush
Agree with John Gruden its meaningless alot of those yards he gets are at garbage time, Johnson dropped 3 key passes in a game against the Vikings earlier in the season that could have been key and helped toward winning the game.
significant- yes
Not significant? Rice was a great and yes he played on great teams however this record has stood for some time now without being threatened. There have been many teams similiar to Detroit's situation with good receivers that have not come close to this record so it is significant in my eyes. The Lions have been behind in most of their games and have had to play "catch up" but not too many of these games were out of reach like last nights game so I don't agree with the garbage time Gruden implied. My nephew worked in the lions camp for a couple of years and he said Calvin was a humble, team player without an attitude.
When decades pass, much more than rules change. Everything changes.
This is why these greatest of all time comparisons are really not apples to apples.
They are fun to talk about but that is about it.
There is usually a lot more behind the records than the actual numbers.
This case is no different.
no very. when you have a team that targets one guy as much as they do for him, it would be more surprising not to. look at Chicago. How many targets does Marshell get, and they still suck. majority of teams that have one go to guy are bad
The record is as good as the kid who scored 120 points in a basketball game.
C.J. did nothing against any real defenses this year, Lions basically started feeding him the ball twice as much as usual which is already a lot.
As soon as targets increased Lions lost 7 in a row, go figure.
If Brian Hartline had 200 targets he'd have 2000 yards by now too.
AD breaking the record would be a lot more significant but he won't do it IMO.
Plus O.J. had more yard per game in the shorter season.
200 passes thrown his way and he can't break ONE BIG one to the House.........that would help the team.
He had 46 yards against Seattle and the lions won and people think Seattle is a real good team.
Lions are good team that plays bad and has a real low IQ.
Hold on a second, you fools think the illegal contact rule helps *Megatron?* Did you *see* the way he was blowing dbs off the line all season? He absolutely raped that Seattle corner who called himself "optimus prime" what a freaking joke Calvin's got tight end size and Randy Moss speed. He's already a legend. Of course he got so many targets, his #2 receiver went down with a broken leg, his #3 receiver was keyshawned for actively sabotaging the team, his #4 receiver tore his ACL, and his #1 TE was out for this game. The Lions only running backs are a guy with a torn achillies and an undrafted free agent from Wayne State.
Consider: he had over 100 receiving yards against a Cardinals secondary that single handily won the game for a god-awful Arizona team. Have you ever seen Jerry Rice double-teamed at the line of scrimmage like a gunner covering a punt? No, because if they did Steve Young would have had a competent #2 to check down to, or he could hand it off to Ricky Watters.
The Lions lost this year because of injuries and terrible coaching. They have 6-7 DBs hurt, and their best safety can't stay healthy. They keep losing games because their OC Scott Linehan absolutely refuses to throw underneath even though its open because defenses are always bracket covering Calvin with a 2-deep zone. And they have no running game to speak of because their o-line can't run block. Did you see how crappy their LG Peterman played last night? Did you see how atrocious their RT Cherlius was last week? Their center Dominic "T-Rex" Raiola: Big Head, Little Arms. He's the tiniest Center in the league.
Last edited by agharah1; 12-23-12 at 08:44 AM.
Plug in AJ Green for CJ and the numbers are the same. And how the hell are you comparing this to A.P. potentialy breaking the record? You realize the Vikings are in the final playoff spot right? Way harder to run against a stacked box then catch a ball in a prevent defense at the end of a game. 800 of Calvin's yards if not more are just garbage yards.
Running records during the passing era are very important. Passing records like Dan Marino are significant during the balanced era. Otherwise you are comparing apples to oranges. Hitting a bunch of home runs during the steroid era like Louis Gonzalez 57 are not significant just a footnote that something is just not right.
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