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You hear it every week
and generally people are wrong, but I can tell you without a doubt books got destroyed yesterday.
A lot of time people just assume, but everything, and I mean everything hit. Every ML fav hit every teaser hit, there were a few buy backs they hit.
I would say yesterday might be the worst day the books have seen this millennium. It really was that bad.
So if you lose money yesterday you can kid yourself and say "I must be sharp because all the squares cashed".
your right...I almost slapped them in the face too....8/9 in a 9 team....4/5 in another and hit straights as well....lotta parlays cashed....
I teased the Jags up. I have bet the NFL for THREE YEARS and never had a winning season. You see why.
http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/n...-michaels-call
“This was the perfect storm that has been brewing for the entire season,” said South Point sports book director Bert Osborne. “It’s a disaster.”
“I’ve been here (LVH Super Book) eight-and-a-half years, and this is the worst day I’ve had,” said LVH Super Book vice president Jay Kornegay.
“This could rival won of the worst Sunday’s we’ve ever had since I’ve been running a book,” said Osborne, a 25-year veteran of running books for Michael Gaughan’s properties.
Last edited by JakeLc; 11-05-12 at 09:41 AM.
they'll get it all back as i can recall for the past 4 years the week before thanksgiving is when public always get buried.
well it will be interesting to see how many offshore places extend their slow pay practices even more.
But it is also the new age of booking where even places in Vegas have a lot of one way action so they are in essence gambling. No way should books be getting crushed if they were actually bookmaking and not book keeping. I am really surprised it doesnt happen more often, but they have been pretty lucky until yesterday. But if that article is true they lost about 15-20% of what they should expect to make in a typical NFL season, Vegas generally makes 50-55 million a year profit on football action (that includes everything, parlay cards, teaser cards, sides, totals, props, etc also both NFL and NCAA, but NFL probably accounts for 80% of that figure so 40-45 million).
But they have also seen dips in their overall takes the past few years so it is clear they have changed how they do business especially in regards to the football games.
I knew it was bad but I didnt think it was the worst ever, but then again a lot more people gambling these days than in the past despite everyone being broke (supposedly).
This type of weekend is the best thing to happen to the books. It gives the squares hope and they come out in droves the rest of the season.
Originally Posted by Dutch
it's like hitting a single in baseball. it's not really a plus if the next batter hits into a double play.
Won big on my last 3-4 bets that I even started second guessing myself before the Falcons game, eventually stayed away. But wish I hadn't.
You're just assuming. You are an idiot if you think the books got destroyed based on the false percentages they feed the public. They do that so that you fade them, so in actuality, the public got pounded taking the opposite of what these free sites were trying to get them to take. Joke is on them.
Sincerely,
Smutbucket
Really, this started on Saturday night when Oregon covered, K-State covered, Clemson covered, the LSU/Bama under hit and Bama won to cover every tease and ML parlay imaginable. Then you get the Sunday bloodbath, which was start to finish the cleanest sweep I've ever seen the public make. Usually on these days, you at least see an occasional upset or dog hit SU that ruins parlays, teases, etc. Not yesterday.
Books did what they could to adjust their lines and burn the Sunday morning bettors. Numbers were moving in the direction of favorites like the Lions, Broncos, Bears and Ravens, but it wasn't enough. You thought they'd get at least one bad number in the bunch, but nope.
No one to blame but themselves for the lines they put out.
the writing was on the wall with all the big line moves and no buy backs. i turned the great majority of my action i got to my local and only kept the parlays (a mess in itself). they even had the steelers since im based in pittsburgh. i did keep the action i got from the over on snf, thought the under was a good play in that game but aside from that almost all of the public bets hit.
[QUOTE=No coincidences;16653154]Really, this started on Saturday night when Oregon covered, K-State covered, Clemson covered, the LSU/Bama under hit and Bama won to cover every tease and ML parlay imaginable. Then you get the Sunday bloodbath, which was start to finish the cleanest sweep I've ever seen the public make. Usually on these days, you at least see an occasional upset or dog hit SU that ruins parlays, teases, etc. Not yesterday.
Books did what they could to adjust their lines and burn the Sunday morning bettors. Numbers were moving in the direction of favorites like the Lions, Broncos, Bears and Ravens, but it wasn't enough. You thought they'd get at least one bad number in the bunch, but nope.[/QUOTE]
books get middled on the nfl once in a blue moon, that would be more of a disaster then the public winning.
Good
I hope Doc slits his fukkin wrists
Fukkin Mickey Mouse shop
Guy has a license to print money and he has a few bad weeks and he cries like a fukkin infant. Fukk him
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Sort of, but no line could've saved Jacksonville and Tennessee yesterday. And it's not like you can make the Bengals +9 at home vs. Denver or Cleveland +10 at home against the Ravens. Books would've lost those games regardless, so I'm not sure what else they could've done. Same goes for Saturday night.
If the Giants would have covered i would have won over 5 dimes yesterday alone...that game by itself hurt me bad, won EVERYTHING else though
Yep. It was amazing to see the board light up like a Christmas tree all morning long, then 5 minutes before kickoff, when it's usually doing the same, there was silence. I thought SBROdds was down or something.
i agree with no coin, sometimes theres nothing that can be done. like i said earlier, they would much rather be wrong with one sided action then get middled.
Like I said yesterday, the number of "I hit an x-team parlay" threads on the board was borderline staggering.
Agree, though being wrong on every single game isn't what they had in mind.
The only line they could've survived on was BUF/HOU. That could've easily been a -13. I don't see any other game that would've been realistically salvageable.
True but if they made those lines a lot higher then they could have had more action on the other side. More balanced.
Then again the den/cin and clev/bal games could have gone the other way. That's how it goes sometimes.
-3/-3.5 could easily been -6.5/-7 and public still be all over it or at least more even action.
I guess they were gambling and lost.
There's really no justifiable reason to have the Browns and Bungals at +7 yesterday, though. The Titans and Jags were lost causes, so those two were the games the books needed.
Colts -3 vs Jags
Broncos -4 vs Carolina
Giants -4 vs Bengals
All these lines dropped too. What action are they inviting?
Do they care to balance action?
Is there enough big money on the other side?
if Ida hit my 9 teamer for 50,000 would I have even got paid LOL cougheritagedfkj...????????
#1) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Denver Broncos
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -5 -110
#2) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Green Bay Packers
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -10˝ -110
#3) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Loss
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Miami Dolphins
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -2 -110
#4) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Baltimore Ravens
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -3˝ +100
#5) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Houston Texans
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -11 -110
#6) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Detroit Lions
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -6 -110
#7) Wager Type : Money Line
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Chicago Bears
Time : 11/4/2012 10:00:01AM - (PST)
Line : -230
#8) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Time : 11/4/2012 1:05:01PM - (PST)
Line : +1 -110
#9) Wager Type : Spread
Outcome : Win
Sport / Period : NFL Football / Game
Selection : Pittsburgh Steelers
Time : 11/4/2012 1:25:01PM - (PST)
Line : -3 +271
Books broke now
requested a max p2p today fron respectable book and was told 7 to 10 days time frame
Usually same day or next day unreal
thats bullshit smoke
brock big deemer hit a 9 team parlay yesterday
They go killed saturday and sunday. It got to the point where i was just teabagging them by sunday night with the Falcons cover
even brock won! oh my, very bad day for books indeed,,,fukk'em brock deserves some money back....brock nyg was a horrible play, you should consult me before making such terrible plays.. even the mush who calls bets in to me went 3-0 yesterday, ive never seen this guy go 3-0 in 3 years of taking his bets, i dont even mind giving him the 150 poor bastard, lol....
had my best weekend this year. won $635 between saturday and sunday. thats a decent amount to me.
the results spoke yesterday not the lines. Could they have adjusted? Sure, but then they have to risk everyone betting the dogs (which have been covering like crazy) all year. They have been stuck the past 3 weeks, results hurt them yesterday.
Before yesterday Dogs were 73-42-1, thats 63% if you need it. ON THE BLIND. I am sure some big money has been hammering those sides, I have been betting dogs predominantly this season thats for sure. Even the system picked games yesterday with teams that should have been dogs but were favored. So that basically saved them ML money as they won but had to lay points. So books have adjusted, but not an extreme amount.
I just know that when I see a lot of -3 and 3.5 spreads I know books are in scramble mode, problem is people hammered those spreads and they actually had to move off a lot of them, something that doesnt happen every often, let alone in just about every game on the board in one day.
It was a crazy day thats for sure. I am just glad I mixed up my card a little bit.
I was 10-3 yesterday
this speaks volumes...
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