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    Teasers suck??? Then why ...

    Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

    Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!

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    They are very beatable in certain spots in the NFL, and books have known this for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Pujols View Post
    They are very beatable in certain spots in the NFL, and books have known this for years.
    I agree. Must be others (complaining about teasers) who don't know how to use them correctly.

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    People will bet them anyway. Truth is that 95% of the players at Bookmaker couldnt give a damn. Those same guys would bet everything at -120 if that is all that was offered.


    Probably way less than 1% of bookmakers customers have ever even heard of gambling forums. They get customers based on their name alone just like sportsbook.com gets tens of thousands of customers

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    Yeah, amazing how much -120 I've seen this year, used to be -105 was easy to find. I pass if I see anything at -120.

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    You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(

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    I bet them
    They always look good
    I do not give a fuk about juice

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    hate paying heavy vig buying pts but its saved my butt several times, sometimes gotta get to key numbers 3 and 7, and getting to 3.5 and 7.5 has been dif between winnning and push. been doing extremly well betting teasers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I bet them
    They always look good
    I do not give a fuk about juice
    JJ you were schooled by Brock right? "It's not juice if you win".

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    Im getting 3-team 10.5pt teasers at -120, is this good juice?

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    yes, I'm getting 10 pts at -120 I'm pretty sure thats the norm. where you getting 10.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by imarkp View Post
    yes, I'm getting 10 pts at -120 I'm pretty sure thats the norm. where you getting 10.5?
    At 5 dimes with the "point mover" program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(
    Not to hijack the thread, but how do we get more competition out there? Change in U.S. law? Just thinking out loud.

    Anyway, this looks like another great NFL teaser week, almost every side is on a good teaser number:

    WagerType:8 team teaser
    Date: Team:
    Oct 22 NFL [438] CHICAGO -½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 25 NFL [104] MINNESOTA -½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 28 NFL [219] NEW ENGLAND -½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 28 NFL [227] ATLANTA +8½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 28 NFL [231] MIAMI +8½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 28 NFL [237] OAKLAND +7½-110 (B+6)
    Oct 28 NFL [240] DALLAS +7-110 (B+6)
    Oct 29 NFL [243] SAN FRANCISCO -½-110 (B+6)

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    I rarely use them, but it is never bad looking for teaser spots. I like having action on primetime NFL, and took SF-Chi this week for my first teaser of the year. Two of the best defenses in the league getting 6 more points. It also was very close to meeting Wong teaser criteria, we skipped a few crucial numbers on both teases, never a bad thing.

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    Bears -1 in 5 point tease for me tonight, other play open. Like the under, but could be points off turnovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    You cleaned up if you bet teasers this weekend. Problem with teasers for the books is that when it rains it pours. It seems like if you tease any total this season you win that leg. If numbers did get sharper and were even better predictors of the final score, book could lose if they don't adjust the payouts. And with less competition out there, books dont have to pay those good ol days odds unfortunately. Eventually, teasers will be sucker bets for real. =(
    sounds like this is what is happening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

    Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!
    bookmaker is increasing vig on them because i hit 75% of the teasers i play with them

    they have freaking awesome nfl teasers 6 to 7 pt up to 8 or even 9 pt teaser on 2 teamers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Everyone I have is increasing vig on teasers. Bkmr for one. If they're unbeatable then why???

    Not liking paying 20C on 2 team 6 pt. Not buying extra pts!!
    They can be good, but only in when they cross both 3 and 7 in the NFL. With the new juice though, it might not have any value anymore.

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    Some good input thanks.

    Rule one is the quality of the KEY points you acquire and where you land numbers wise. Not buying dead numbers i.e. 7.5-9.5. Of course throwing in some decent handicapping helps.

    I have a full set of rules developed over 40 years of successful teaser betting. No I'm not sharing them all here.

    One point I think worth making is this ... 6 point teasers have way more value relative to the line than the total. Pure simple fact. I'm the first guy to promote and play 13 pt totals but no way am I buying 6 points on totals especially the higher they get. I had friend try to convince me that buying a 84 pt total down to 78 was OK. The total ended up like 120 ish.

    GL men!

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    ppl around here always bang on them especially some of the resident wanna be sharps but i have a thread full of teaser winners,,long as you keep them to 2 teams and dont do the wrong things they are great in nfl, for me anyway....

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    My first teaser of the year worked perfectly, 49'ers and Bears, both needed the 6 pts to cover. I look for spots were the 6 pts are more meaningful, such as sides with low projected totals, and obviously the Wong teaser criteria.

    But I seldom if ever bet them, as generally they are a much more -EV investment than straight bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    They can be good, but only in when they cross both 3 and 7 in the NFL. With the new juice though, it might not have any value anymore.
    Your comment seems somewhat "old school" teaser concentrict. Take all the totals this week and add and subtract 13 from all. For instance SF/Sea was about as good as it gets under and in my mind reduced my total exposure from 4 teams to 3. On the average week you can find 3 games (I know I'm not supposed to say it but "near locks") to go over or under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    ppl around here always bang on them especially some of the resident wanna be sharps but i have a thread full of teaser winners,,long as you keep them to 2 teams and dont do the wrong things they are great in nfl, for me anyway....
    Banker you need to open your mind to 13 pt totals. I've even got Biffer thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    bookmaker is increasing vig on them because i hit 75% of the teasers i play with them

    they have freaking awesome nfl teasers 6 to 7 pt up to 8 or even 9 pt teaser on 2 teamers
    Good for you TTM. I'm running a little higher % across 2 books but I've doubled at Bkmr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Some good input thanks.

    Rule one is the quality of the KEY points you acquire and where you land numbers wise. Not buying dead numbers i.e. 7.5-9.5. Of course throwing in some decent handicapping helps.

    I have a full set of rules developed over 40 years of successful teaser betting. No I'm not sharing them all here.

    One point I think worth making is this ... 6 point teasers have way more value relative to the line than the total. Pure simple fact. I'm the first guy to promote and play 13 pt totals but no way am I buying 6 points on totals especially the higher they get. I had friend try to convince me that buying a 84 pt total down to 78 was OK. The total ended up like 120 ish.

    GL men!
    i tend to lean toward dogs in what i think will be defensive battles in my teasersand while i understand the total thing many times i like the total with the dog on 6 and 7 point teasers as the way the nfl gay ass rules are that extra cushion has saved me quite a bit,,back in the day i would never have teased the total but now days even when i feel i have a 3-4 point discrepancy on a under it nice to push that bitch to what i feel is more than 7-10 as that kinda takes away the random bs pass interference/roughing call drive that fukk up a good thing so many times....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Banker you need to open your mind to 13 pt totals. I've even got Biffer thinking.
    yea my bro in law been doing them for years, i just cant wrap my mind around having to hit 4 teams...2 teamers have severed me well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    yea my bro in law been doing them for years, i just cant wrap my mind around having to hit 4 teams...2 teamers have severed me well..
    Try adding and subtracting the 13 from the totals and test a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Try adding and subtracting the 13 from the totals and test a few.
    BTW , NFL NOT NCAA. NCAA Was my downfall last year as inevitably there's always one weirdo result it seems.

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    absolutely love playin nfl 13 point teasers on underdogs on 5dimes' shaded chalk lines. I agree with madison, i dont think teasing totals is effective, especially in hoops or college fb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    absolutely love playin nfl 13 point teasers on underdogs on 5dimes' shaded chalk lines. I agree with madison, i dont think teasing totals is effective, especially in hoops or college fb.
    asw i said only time i do is nfl when i am teasing dog in what i think will be defensive struggle and the under correlates nicely imo...

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    Woj, what does 4 teamer end up at with 13pt tease at 5dimes? How many teams needed to get to even? Thanks.

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    13 pt tease ties reduce 4 teamer is -130.

    Lemme check but i think 5 teams is even (might be ties lose tho)

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    5 teams is +105 ties reduce, +115 ties lose. The 4 teamer ties lose is -110.

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    U can tease 20 points on 5dimes but u gotta lay some serious wood to do so

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    20 pts is nuts. 13 pts with 4 teams seems to be the play. 5 teams is one too many. Gonna give it a shot this weekend, small, for test. Thanks.

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