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I Just put a 1.5 units on the Raiders to win the AFC West at +500
Carson Palmer, DMac, two speedy receivers on the outside, a new coach, no AL Davis, a rusty Peyton Manning, a broken up Ryan Mathews and missing Vincent Jackson, and a flash in the pan Matt Cassell and a Chiefs coach who got the gig by default. What's could go wrong? Feedback. Thanks.
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Where did you get that line? 5D has it at +635. Good value, and they have a shot.
i like it at +635
not so much at +500
who will catch the passes?
heyward-bust-bey will drop 50 passes that hits him between the numbers. moore will get hurt again. they have tightends who can't catch a cold let alone a pass.
they need to sign chad Johnson and cooley to have any chance.
lol...the Raiders will go 5-11. That Carson Palmer trade is one of the worst trades in NFL history. The guy was/is damaged goods....can't throw anymore.
This is undisputable.Originally Posted by Mr Handicapable
bye bye 1.5 units
palmer isn't the problem. he was among league leaders in comp%, yds, tds and completions over 20yds.
the problem is the receivers. i tuned into a raiders game couple weeks ago and watched heyward-bey drop an easy touchdown and the te juggle every pass.
You trust Denver, Norv, and Cassel more?
That Division is a crap shoot. The Raiders were 10-6 ATS last year. if they stay healthy(and thats a big IF) they could win that GARBAGE Division . the ONLY reason Denver made the playoffs was because the Raiders lost their last game. +635 is a GREAT price!!!
raiders will finish in last place by a wide margin
Im going to let you in on a little secret. Peyton Manning is FINISHED!
not expecting much from him either and not a bronco fan. the raiders are just a very bad football team. gl
Palmer is an interception machine. No D-line. No O-line. Dmac the only real offensive threat. DHB has hands like feet. Jacoby Ford plays scared. Raiders finish dead last.
That means you have more faith/confidence in Cassell and Norv. Good luck to you.
sea, how many times after Gruden have the Raiders won the division?
w/o Gruden they've won the division ONE TIME in the last 30 years ... if I am correct
Yep. If playing the percentages the Raiders would be a no go.
Chiefs are a mortal lock
to me, tho, it's not about percentages.
that franchise is shit b/c of Al Davis.... and he left a shit cloud hanging over the team
they won when they had Gruden b/c Gruden is a winning coach.
there is nothing that says the Raiders will be very good or better than Denver or San Diego
bol to you, tho
The play seems fine even though you can get better numbers, I just don't personally like having money tied up that long.
kraken, go suck a liberal's ding dong
The health of McFadden will be the biggest factor in the Raiders having a chance to win the division. If he's healthy all year +600 is great value, if he isn't, they won't win.
Raiders have the least amount of question marks in the division. What a division when the Raiders have the most solid outlook coming into a season.
Too much focus on skill positions of other teams... I don't think losing Vincent Jackson will hurt the Chargers that much, for example. Definitely not enough to provide any more value for the Raiders...
You think Vincent Jackson's replacement Robert Meacham makes the chargers better?
Feedback? Oakland will finish last in the division. Easily. The shittiest team there.
Mcfadden won't have as big of a year....Chiefs may take the division in my opinion if not 2nd to broncos.
Peyton is going to make you very, very mad this season
Nope. I said they aren't worse. You really think one medium sized downgrade at WR on the Chargers is going to give you extra value on the Raiders? You don't think they are going to spend that large amount of cap space they saved by letting Jackson go to upgrade at other positions?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad play, but I question your reasoning
It's gonna go down to the last game I'll tell you that!
Bad play by me. Same old sorry ass Raiders. New coach, new qb, new gm, new attitude.................As Tim McDonald once said "Same old sorry ass rams"
Can you imagine Oakland D trying to defend Manning on the hurry-up?
They can't score. The defense is fine and undisciplined.
Yea, I have the Broncos winning the AFC West. I placed a bet on them during the preseason.
You can't trust teams with either poor offense, poor defense or too many penalties.
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