1. 08-30-12 12:58 PM #1
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    Kansas City Chiefs Are Going To Win The AFC West

    Hugely improved.

    Solid D that can play against both the run and pass.

    Cassel is fully healthy. Charles is fully healthy. Bowe is back. Eric Berry is fully healthy.

    I look for the Chiefs to be the surprise of the AFC this season.
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  2. 08-30-12 01:46 PM #2
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    Tough team; I think denver wins it over them by a game. This division has really picked it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    Tough team; I think denver wins it over them by a game. This division has really picked it up.
    Wow, Denver huh? That's pretty tough for me to see because Denver was so bad defensively last year.

    I don't see that they made any significant improvements in that area either unless I missed something.

    They also lost their defensive coordinator from last season who is now coach of the Raiders.

    Unless Denver expects to put up 40+ points every game, I can't see them winning the division.
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    chiefs will lose week 1 for sure
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    I just think Manning is that good.

    Look at all those dogshit teams he won how many games with in Indy.

    I think he is the magic man and they win it with 10 wins to KC's 9
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    chargers
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    Couldn't do it before Brock and now no VJ

    Brock I don't get it
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    You said the flyers would win the Stanley cup too

    Pass
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    This is honestly the biggest coin toss division in football. But when all is said and done the Donkos and Raiders will be battling for the title. Without question Oakland has the most overall talent in this division. If my boys can keep the penalties under control, and DMC stays healthy they will be tough. KC does not have a great defense it will be hit and miss like last season and when all is said and done they won't have enough offense to keep up most weeks. I have them at about 2-4 going into their bye. GL
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    As for Diego they have once again the weakest coach in the West, questionable o-line, Gates health?, average at best defense, and lost too many key players the last couple years. Aside from that these gutless losers only show up to play about half a season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    This is honestly the biggest coin toss division in football. But when all is said and done the Donkos and Raiders will be battling for the title. Without question Oakland has the most overall talent in this division. If my boys can keep the penalties under control, and DMC stays healthy they will be tough. KC does not have a great defense it will be hit and miss like last season and when all is said and done they won't have enough offense to keep up most weeks. I have them at about 2-4 going into their bye. GL
    This has got to be a joke. The Raiders?

    Let's see, they can't stop the run and they lost their best cornerback in Stanford Routt who went to Kansas City so they will now also get passed on with relative ease.

    They lost their other starting cornerback in Chris Johnson who also went elsewhere.

    They have McFadden but he can't stay healthy for a full season.

    Carson Palmer is an interception machine if last season and this preseason is any indication.

    On top of that, he has no real receivers to throw to.

    Darrius Heyward-Bey has hands like feet and is injury-prone. Jacoby Ford had one decent season but that's it.

    They lost their starting TE in Kevin Boss.

    The draft didn't net them any starters.

    They have a rookie head coach who has been in the league for exactly one season prior to this one.

    This division is going to come down to the Chiefs and Chargers, clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    You said the flyers would win the Stanley cup too

    Pass

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    As I stated if DMC stays healthy they will be a contender. We have a strong cast of young playmaker receivers with DHB, Ford, Moore, and the new rookie Criner. The secondary is a concern and will have to play better however we have one of the better front 7's in football. Don't let the #'s fool you our rush defense is not that bad. Problem is they give up too many home run hits that pad stats for the opposition and deflate ours on run defense. Pretty typical game for Oakland plays out like this. If we surrender say 150 yards rushing on 28 carries that looks bad in terms of avg. However there are typically 2 runs combining for about 60-75 of those yards in a game which is deceiving if you just look at numbers. We now have a defensive minded coach who will hopefully address some of these issues and get the penalties under control better. Going back through Carson's history if he has a legit running attack and keeps his avg around 27-30 attempts a game his pick numbers are great. When he is expected to throw 40 times a game his pick #'s are terrible. Farve, Eli, Brees (to name a few) have all had many seasons between them where they threw 20+ picks and last I checked have all been fitted for rings. I would be shocked if S.D. or K.C. wins this division. Could be wrong but I know my team and I know this div. very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    As I stated if DMC stays healthy they will be a contender. We have a strong cast of young playmaker receivers with DHB, Ford, Moore, and the new rookie Criner. The secondary is a concern and will have to play better however we have one of the better front 7's in football. Don't let the #'s fool you our rush defense is not that bad. Problem is they give up too many home run hits that pad stats for the opposition and deflate ours on run defense. Pretty typical game for Oakland plays out like this. If we surrender say 150 yards rushing on 28 carries that looks bad in terms of avg. However there are typically 2 runs combining for about 60-75 of those yards in a game which is deceiving if you just look at numbers. We now have a defensive minded coach who will hopefully address some of these issues and get the penalties under control better. Going back through Carson's history if he has a legit running attack and keeps his avg around 27-30 attempts a game his pick numbers are great. When he is expected to throw 40 times a game his pick #'s are terrible. Farve, Eli, Brees (to name a few) have all had many seasons between them where they threw 20+ picks and last I checked have all been fitted for rings. I would be shocked if S.D. or K.C. wins this division. Could be wrong but I know my team and I know this div. very well.
    McFadden alone isn't enough to make a difference.

    Having an offense where you depend almost solely on one guy is a horrible way to go into a season.

    Suppose defenses focus on stopping DMac? Where will the Raiders offense come from?

    Palmer, when he's on, is a decent enough QB but who is he going to throw to?

    Jacoby Ford? DHB?

    The Raiders are not going to contend for the division crown. At least not this year.

    They are going to rely on their defense to get them through.

    That's not enough though. It's also a bit much to ask of a rookie coach in only his 2nd year in the league.

    The Raiders are in rebuild mode and will be for the next few seasons.
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  15. 08-30-12 05:06 PM #15
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    Nothing but a bunch of average football teams in the AFC West.

    Whoever wins the division will go nowhere in the playoffs.
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  16. 08-30-12 05:50 PM #16
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    Everytime you make a thread the opposite happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a4u2fear View Post
    Everytime you make a thread the opposite happens.
    Really?

    Every time?
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  18. 08-30-12 06:11 PM #18
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    Well time will tell I guess and I think you will be surprised by our offense this year it will be better than K.C's I promise. Like I stated in my 1st post though this really is a coin toss div.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Really?

    Every time?
    Flyers will beat devils in five or less
    Devils will win Stanley cup

    Thats The last two before this one, I'm sure there were others
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    Denver will
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    Quote Originally Posted by a4u2fear View Post
    Flyers will beat devils in five or less
    Devils will win Stanley cup

    Thats The last two before this one, I'm sure there were others
    So you say "every time" but can only give two examples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    This is honestly the biggest coin toss division in football. But when all is said and done the Donkos and Raiders will be battling for the title. Without question Oakland has the most overall talent in this division. If my boys can keep the penalties under control, and DMC stays healthy they will be tough. KC does not have a great defense it will be hit and miss like last season and when all is said and done they won't have enough offense to keep up most weeks. I have them at about 2-4 going into their bye. GL

    The Raiders will not do anything, Carson Palmer has looked absolutely horrible and they ahve no secondary.
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    chiefs will finish last in the division. you guys will see.
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  24. 08-30-12 08:30 PM #24
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    This Chiefs team is bad. I thought they may have been a sleeper team but they have looked awful in the preseason.
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    I think they could turn it around
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    Division up for grabs.
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    Raiders should win this division easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Hugely improved.

    Solid D that can play against both the run and pass.

    Cassel is fully healthy. Charles is fully healthy. Bowe is back. Eric Berry is fully healthy.

    I look for the Chiefs to be the surprise of the AFC this season.
    Not one post refuted any of your points. Chiefs will stomp this division.
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    Chiefs will be DEAD LAST. Book it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb_skoots View Post
    Not one post refuted any of your points. Chiefs will stomp this division.
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    bro there is no.way! broncos have a way Better opportunity than the chiefs your joking I hope. I live black and gold but live in Denver now kc wont even make the post season.
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    KC might be worse then Miami!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16johnnymac View Post
    bro there is no.way! broncos have a way Better opportunity than the chiefs your joking I hope. I live black and gold but live in Denver now kc wont even make the post season.
    The Broncos defense is fukking atrocious. Unless Manning can play defense and be Superman and stops the opposing team single handedly, they are going to get lit like a fukkin Christmas Tree.
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    Coming from the guy that likes KC to win the Division!?! Stick to the play station little fella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pulledclear View Post
    Coming from the guy that likes KC to win the Division!?! Stick to the play station little fella.
    Why even make a post like this? Why bother? It adds nothing to the conversation.
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