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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    then your rating system is 3 1/2 points off from reality

    pats are 3.5 pts better than houston in every sportsbook in the world
    Actually I am not wrong, in fact I am right on. I too extrapolated a line of Pats -3.5 head to head vs. Houston based on pinny AFC Futures, but you are forgetting that those futures assume Pats being home for Championship Game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Is there any book that has Titans o/u wins at 8 or higher?

    Highest I see is 7.5
    Highly doubtful, nor should there be.

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    And on a side note, Pinny only has like a 10% hold on conference futures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Highly doubtful, nor should there be.
    Books used to offer alternative lines, 7, 8, 9, with different juices.

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    They won't win because A. Hasselback is their QB

    B. Chris Johnson is coming off the worst year I've ever seen from such a talented back

    C. They have no WRs (Britt injured 50% of the time)

    D. Their defense is average

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Books used to offer alternative lines, 7, 8, 9, with different juices.
    Gotcha, yeah that sounds like a Tony tactic. Maybe he'll add a dropdown in the next month?

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    This LT fella sure looks like a sharp guy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    They won't win because A. Hasselback is their QB

    B. Chris Johnson is coming off the worst year I've ever seen from such a talented back

    C. They have no WRs (Britt injured 50% of the time)

    D. Their defense is average
    Locker will be the starter sooner rather than later (Locker would win the job if they have a "fair" competition in preseason) and CJ is going to have a huge bounce-back year. You are right on with C and D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Gotcha, yeah that sounds like a Tony tactic. Maybe he'll add a dropdown in the next month?
    He has it for college teams...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    He has it for college teams...
    OK keep an eye out.

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    Will be 0-6 to start the season. Might get 1st win against buffalo in wk7

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    You guys are nuts.

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    I will book all you guys.
    You get under 7 +100

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    Quote Originally Posted by acl123 View Post
    You guys are nuts.
    Care to elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acl123 View Post
    I will book all you guys.
    You get under 7 +100
    Well I said 7-9, so why ties things up for a Push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acl123 View Post
    I will book all you guys.
    You get under 7 +100
    Pinny is currently at Under 7 (+119)... And you're not an SBR PRO, making any sizable transaction impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    0-6 lets be real.
    if locker is the starter and britt is not suspended the offense with be damn good.
    i think Kendall Wright could be a stud.
    2nd year under new regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Pinny is currently at Under 7 (+119)... And you're not an SBR PRO, making any sizable transaction impossible.
    I wass talking real money.
    But forget that i dont want to get banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Will be 0-6 to start the season. Might get 1st win against buffalo in wk7
    Paco 3-3 at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Locker will be the starter sooner rather than later (Locker would win the job if they have a "fair" competition in preseason) and CJ is going to have a huge bounce-back year. You are right on with C and D.

    Matt has been out performing Locker in camp. Locker is getting a fair shot, but I doubt he will be the starter when the season begins. I think he may get the job when they are like 2-5 or 3-4 after the first 7 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acl123 View Post
    Paco 3-3 at worst.
    3-3 at best.

    2-4 most realistic scenario.

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    Titans with a healthy Chris Johnson and Matt hasselback take this division easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Titans with a healthy Chris Johnson and Matt hasselback take this division easily.
    Texans with a healthy Schaub and Andre are AT LEAST 3 games better than Tennessee at full strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Titans with a healthy Chris Johnson and Matt hasselback take this division easily.

    Jake Locker is going to be the starting qb. doesnt matter, texans if healthy win division

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    If Andre Johnson is 100% Texans win with it with ease. He is the most consistent player in that division by far and that division just doesn't have good enough CBs to defend him. CJ is good but defenses are catching on to him and making him hit the middle holes. No way he can carry a team by himself. He is no Tomlinson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    They won't win because A. Hasselback is their QB

    B. Chris Johnson is coming off the worst year I've ever seen from such a talented back

    C. They have no WRs (Britt injured 50% of the time)

    D. Their defense is average
    You are dead wrong bud! They probably have one of the top WR/TE corps in the league! You'll see! And with CJ coming back (Now that he has finally trained with the Titans all off-season, and will be in tip-top shape) the offense will be explosive with who ever wins the job at QB! Defenses will be crowding the box to stop CJ letting the speedy WRs to run wild! Even without Britt (Should be suspended for 2-4 games) they'll be more then fine at WR. Watch out for TE J. Cook!

    Their biggest weakness is defense without a doubt, but hopefully they'll be able to out score their opponents!

    Love that football is back!!!!!!

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    Chris Johnson averaged a whopping 1.4 yards a carry last season.



    I don't think he broke a 100 yards till like his 8th game. Goat is correct, teams have figured lil Wayne out

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    WEEK OPPONENT SPREAD % CHANCE
    Week 1 vs New England +6.5 0.28
    Week 2 at San Diego +6 0.29
    Week 3 vs Detroit +1 0.49
    Week 4 at Houston +7.5 0.22
    Week 5 at Minnesota PK 0.50
    Week 6 vs Pittsburgh (Thurs.) +1.5 0.47
    Week 7 at Buffalo +3.5 0.36
    Week 8 vs Indianapolis -6 0.71
    Week 9 vs Chicago +1 0.49
    Week 10 at Miami +3.5 0.36
    Week 11 Bye
    Week 12 at Jacksonville -1 0.51
    Week 13 vs Houston +3 0.41
    Week 14 at Indianapolis PK 0.50
    Week 15 vs New York Jets (MNF) PK 0.50
    Week 16 at Green Bay +11 0.13
    Week 17 vs Jacksonville -7 0.75
    Green = Wins
    Red = Losses

    10-6

    Week 16 against the packers, I believe packer will be resting their starters at that point in the season (but i'll count it as a loss, but if they rest them Titans will win).

    I'm not saying their going to win the division but they'll get in as a wild card! Last season only team with a winning record not to make the playoffs......they get in this year!

    I believe Locker takes over in Week 5. First 4 games are tough.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Chris Johnson averaged a whopping 1.4 yards a carry last season.



    I don't think he broke a 100 yards till like his 8th game. Goat is correct, teams have figured lil Wayne out



    CJ2K was horrific last year

    but i think it was partly due to him getting paid and going operation shutdown

    I think he will bounce back this year looking for one more payday but obviously will be nowhere near the old CJ2K

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Chris Johnson averaged a whopping 1.4 yards a carry last season.



    I don't think he broke a 100 yards till like his 8th game. Goat is correct, teams have figured lil Wayne out
    Full offseason under his belt will make that average go up. Week 1 he'll get over 100 yds

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZFP8Wwrl9o

    Cushing: Locker
    Barwin: CJ
    Watt: Hasselbeck

    Take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Titans with a healthy Chris Johnson and Matt hasselback take this division easily.
    You still want that o/u of double-digit wins like you mentioned last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    If Andre Johnson is 100% Texans win with it with ease. He is the most consistent player in that division by far and that division just doesn't have good enough CBs to defend him. CJ is good but defenses are catching on to him and making him hit the middle holes. No way he can carry a team by himself. He is no Tomlinson.
    Andre Johnson is not healthy now, nor was he any after the first month of last year. You are depending on a 31 year old wideout who can't stay healthy all of a sudden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Andre Johnson is not healthy now, nor was he any after the first month of last year. You are depending on a 31 year old wideout who can't stay healthy all of a sudden.
    Hardly depending on him. Texans D is 10X better than anything in the division, they have by far the best QB and RB in that division.

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    Seriously, if Schaub, Foster, Johnson, Mario all don't miss several games last year and all played in the playoffs, they either barely lose to the Pats in the title game or they beat the Giants in the SB. High powered throwing teams are the only obstacles for the Texans.

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