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    That let them score stategy does not work

    I've seen it fail too many times. Ask Holgram and the Favre's.

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    Letting them run the clock down to 1 second doesn't work either.

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    Dumbest post ever

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    The alternative is a fail as well tho. Gotta give Brady a shot even tho they blew it with a bad case of the dropsies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    Letting them run the clock down to 1 second doesn't work either.
    6 in one hand a half dozen in the other. Billy Condiff may show up.

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    I NEED GIANTS BY -3.5 ALT. LINE SO WOULD HELP ME OUT BIGTIME (+257)

    dumbest play in SB history may win me a HUGE open parlay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! instead of winning ny 1 its 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    When have you seen it work?

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    If they don't let them score, New York runs the clock down to 1 second and kicks an 18 yard FG.

    I think letting Brady have the ball with one minute and one time out gives you a better chance.

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    In that spot they had no choice.

    There only hope would be a missed 20yd FG.

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    they should've let them score earlier.

    instead they let htem run 3 plays..... killing almost all of the clock. stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naz18 View Post
    Dumbest post ever
    When have you seen it work, Sherlock?

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    That was the right decision. If the Pat's didn't have 2 drops it might have gotten more interesting. I thought that short pass over the middle by Brady that ate up a lot of clock down to like 17 seconds was a horrible decision by Brady. You have to play the sidelines or get something over the middle deep. Tough break.

    Giants own the Pat's now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    I NEED GIANTS BY -3.5 ALT. LINE SO WOULD HELP ME OUT BIGTIME (+257) dumbest play in SB history may win me a HUGE open parlay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! instead of winning ny 1 its 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    WOOHOO

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    giants deserve the win either way

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    18 yard fg. he makes it 95 percent of the time. so if you don't let them score you will lose 95 percent of the time.

    if you let them score, it only has to work 6 percent of the time to be the right decision.

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    The let them score plan would of worked... if you let Brady have 2 minutes to work with. Giants were going to run regardless... should of just let them walk right in... before that down. Glad they didn't though.

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    Brady with one minute and one timeout?

    Or

    Rely on a NFl kicker to miss an extra point?

    The Patriots threw into the end zone. They had a shot at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    Brady with one minute and one timeout?

    Or

    Rely on a NFl kicker to miss an extra point?

    The Patriots threw into the end zone. They had a shot at least.
    Once again, when have you seen that strategy work? It just doesn't. It gives you a better chance, mayber from 1% to 3%, but blocking a field goal versus going 80+ yard in less than a minute just doesn't happen enough for teams playing at the highest level. Teams practice the TWO minute drill, not the 49 second drill/hail mary drill every week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Once again, when have you seen that strategy work? It just doesn't.
    It gave them the best chance to win.

    Letting a team run the clock out and kick an 18 yard FG doesn't work either.

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    Why do you think Bradshaw tried to go down at the one yard line?

    It's because he knew they could have ran the clock out and kicked a FG that would have been closer than an extra point.

    I would much rather take my chances with Brady having the ball with one minute and one time out.

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    i already explained it to you.

    i just looked up extra point attempts. they make them at 99 percent. so if you let them attempt the FG you will loss 99 percent of the time.

    you only need it to work greater than one percent of the time. surely teams can score a TD with one timeout in a minute with greater success than 1 percent of the time.

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    I'll take the odds of the pats scoring a td with 57seconds left over hoping the giants miss an extra point FG anyday . The reason you dont see it work is because both are unlikely . Extra points this year in the NFL hit 99.67% of the time . So the pats have a 0.33% chance at winning the game by letting the giants kick it .

    The Patriots should have been more aggressive early in that drive instead of letting them drive down the field.If they had of forced the issue the giants either score fast or turn it over .

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    At least the two posters above me get it.

    The Patriots were beat. By letting NY score with a minute left. The Patriots allowed them a "chance".

    Like I already said, Brady with one minute and a timeout are a lot better odds than relying on a kicker to miss a straight away 18 yard FG.

    It was closer than an extra point.

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    That hail mary came awfully close to being completed...isn't there a better strategy to defending that...maybe jump up and swat the ball away..

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    If walker caught that pass..the outcome is different..it was very close and once again the linemakers were right as it was a toss up game..that moron on espn2 said it should be giants minus 6.5.......idiot...the herd or something...

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    also the play brady under threw gronk and the giants got an interception off of was another huge play

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyplayer33 View Post
    If walker caught that pass..the outcome is different..it was very close and once again the linemakers were right as it was a toss up game..that moron on espn2 said it should be giants minus 6.5.......idiot...the herd or something...
    It was a toss up game ' but the linemakers job is to get 50 /50 action on either side of the game witch did not happen . The line should have been reversed .Took a hammering on the spread and Money Line
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    If they don't let them score, New York runs the clock down to 1 second and kicks an 18 yard FG.

    I think letting Brady have the ball with one minute and one time out gives you a better chance.
    Definitely. What else were they suppose to do. If the giants didn't score a TD they would of chipped a easy fukin fg with no time.

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    Letting them score was the right play. In fact a) they should have done it a play earlier and b. they should have used the TO on a prior play. They could have had 1:30 and no TO's instead of 0:57 with 1 TO. Would have been preferable.

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    Coughlin just said it. His kicker could have done a Billy Condit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Coughlin just said it. His kicker could have done a Billy Condit.
    So why did Bradshaw try to go down at the 1 yard line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post

    So why did Bradshaw try to go down at the 1 yard line?
    He said the fg is not guaranteed, and mentioned Billy Condit. Tony Romo mishandle a playoff snap, Giants snapper rolled one back in a playoff game against the Niners, and Billy Condit yakked an "easy" one to tie a game two weeks ago. Going 80+ yards with a minute to go just doesn't happen with less than a minute needing a touchdown versus a field goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Coughlin just said it. His kicker could have done a Billy Condit.
    You obviously don't know what you are talking about because you don't even know these people's names.

    Who is "Holgran"? Who is "Condit"?

    Billy "Cundiff" missed a 37 yard FG. That's a little tougher than a 18 yard FG lined up right down the middle. It's a smarter idea to at least give your self a shot with one of the best QB's ever.

    Do you honestly think you are smarter than Bill Belichick? It was a smart move giving his team a chance at least. New England had a better chance of catching that Hail Mary than the Giants had of missing that FG.

    There is a reason Bradshaw tried to fall down at the one yard line. He realized he could essentially end the game but he couldn't stop his momentum.

    I'll take the ball back with a minute, timeout, and Brady over having to rely on Tynes missing an 18 yard FG with one second left.

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    I don't understand how this is a discussion. OBV letting them score was the only thing that gave them more than like a 1 percent chance to win. As mentioned, they should of done it a play earlier.

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