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    Why is no one talking about how hard it is to beat a team twice?

    It is even harder when the Giants are healthier now and playing much better football than they were when this first match up was played.

    This angle is usually repeated but I haven't heard it this time. I don't like that most of the experts are picking the Giants, but I think they might actually be right this time.

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    Uh Gore didn't play the majority of the game vs the Giants. Skins beat the Giants twice its not as hard as you think to beat a team twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beerman2619 View Post
    Uh Gore didn't play the majority of the game vs the Giants. Skins beat the Giants twice its not as hard as you think to beat a team twice.
    Bradshaw didn't play either, not to mention the Giants dropped a lot of easy passes against the 49ers first time around. Completely different team now.

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    I never bet against Eli in the playoffs.

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    It's as hard as flipping heads twice in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    It's as hard as flipping heads twice in a row.
    yeah? and this?

    ''Too hot to handle? Everyone's expecting a tough, hard-fought game, but the Giants really haven't been playing those. They have won their first two playoff games, against the Falcons and Packers, by a combined score of 61-22. And according to ESPN Stats & Information, the Giants are the fifth team since 1990 to win their first two playoff games by at least 17 points. Of the previous four, three won the Super Bowl -- the 1991 Redskins, the 1996 Packers and the 2002 Buccaneers. The only one of those teams that didn't win the Super Bowl was the 2002 Raiders, who lost to those aforementioned 2002 Buccaneers. The 49ers are an imposing foe, to be be sure, but the scores so far hint that it's at least possible that the Giants are on the same kind of run those other teams were.''

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    Since 1990, every single team to win 2 blowouts in their first 2 games has won the super bowl, besides the one instance when 2 of the teams played each other.

    Some stats may not mean anything, but this one clearly does.

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    Four's company: The Giants and the 49ers both rely on pressuring the passer with their defensive front rather than sending linebackers or defensive backs to blitz. Both teams are very good at it. The Giants have more sacks (34 to 31) than the 49ers when applying pressure with four or fewer. But according to ESPN Stats & Info, the 49ers have a higher duress/hit percentage, hitting or forcing the quarterback to throw under duress on 19.4 percent of dropbacks when sending four or fewer. The Giants' percentage is 15.1. The 49ers also have more interceptions (20 to 15) and a lower opponent's Total QBR (49.9 to 68.8) when sending four or fewer. For the Giants, it also matters who the four are. They are averaging a sack every 7.0 pass attempts when Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, Jason Pierre-Paul and Mathias Kiwanuka are on the field together. When they aren't, the Giants get a sack every 15.6 pass attempts.


    All bad signs for 49ers. They weren't healthy for that first game. Now they are.

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    Marked man: The 49ers' offense has struggled in the red zone this season. Quarterback Alex Smith has completed only 40 percent of his red-zone passes, which is the second-worst figure in the league. But when he targets tight end Vernon Davis in the red zone, he has more success. Smith has targeted Davis nine times in the red zone this season, and five of those targets resulted in touchdown catches. Smith has thrown a total of five touchdown passes to all of his other red-zone targets combined this season. Last week's Giants game plan against Green Bay stressed that they "beat the hell" out of Packers tight end Jermichael Finley. Expect a similar plan against the big, physical Davis, who's the 49ers' top receiving threat.

    Gonna beat up on Vernon.

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    I guess by this logic if New England and the Giants play in the big one you will be all over New England. Double revenge spot for the Pats. The Giants 4 game win streak ends in San Francisco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john230 View Post
    I guess by this logic if New England and the Giants play in the big one you will be all over New England. Double revenge spot for the Pats. The Giants 4 game win streak ends in San Francisco.
    Not sure. Pats are a much better team than the 49ers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    I never bet against Eli in the playoffs.
    Smartest thing anyone's said thus far!

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    Alex Smith to the Super Bowl?

    Not a fukkin chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    It's as hard as flipping heads twice in a row.
    So by that logic you're saying 49ers have a 25% chance to win today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monitor-tan View Post
    so by that logic you're saying 49ers have a 25% chance to win today?
    lol!

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    I will love to see the giants put out 4 de's on 1st and 2nd down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monitor-Tan View Post
    So by that logic you're saying 49ers have a 25% chance to win today?
    D'Oh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadFavorites$$$ View Post
    It is even harder when the Giants are healthier now and playing much better football than they were when this first match up was played.

    This angle is usually repeated but I haven't heard it this time. I don't like that most of the experts are picking the Giants, but I think they might actually be right this time.

    b/c a couple of years ago the Steelers beat the Ravens 3 times. Who cares if they have played already. The 2nd game isn't in NY, so big deal.

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    Forget all the stats hamburger. How are the giants a dog ? They are clearly the better team. Hotter qb. And they are from new York. Every joe from NYC is heading to wm or ** or calling a NYC local to get as much action down possible on nyg. Don't u see they are inviting it ?

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    2 times isn't nearly as hard as 3 times.... beating a team twice in a season happens a fair amount... of the top of my head ... texans beat bengals... steelers beat bengals, ravens beat bengals... ravens beat steelers.. pats jets.. pats dolphins...

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    I think the giants win.. btw: remember everyone ripping on dallas a few years back when they had to beat the eagles three times in a season, two back to back.. they did it. If Romo can do something like that, the giants def can beat san fran twice.

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    Umm I pretty sure the eagles beat them twice.... and the giants lost to 49ers

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    because it isnt that hard.

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    Ravens and Patriots had no problems last week beating teams twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monitor-Tan View Post
    So by that logic you're saying 49ers have a 25% chance to win today?
    Reading SBR/internet that would make it on the high side...

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    in recent years we've seen that the "its hard to beat a team 3 times in a season" is actually false

    not too worried about two times

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    NWE beat BUF 15 times SU ? kidding...... anyway, i got 2g on NYG +2.5 -110. go BLUE.

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    Niners beat the Rams 17 straight times.

    Not hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopperocker View Post
    NWE beat BUF 15 times SU ? kidding...... anyway, i got 2g on NYG +2.5 -110. go BLUE.
    So dumb why not buy it up to +3 if ur gonna lay that kinda loot

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    teams are 761-545 SU if they beat a team in the same season in their previous matchup.

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    Lang is on the Giants. Big 100 dime play.

    Your odds just went down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Lang is on the Giants. Big 100 dime play.

    Your odds just went down.


    Last week he went 1-1 if he is on the Patriots too, Giants still have a chance to be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post


    Last week he went 1-1 if he is on the Patriots too, Giants still have a chance to be saved.
    He has Patriots -7 too as a smaller play.

    You still have a 46% chance to win.

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    Yes, if you play in regular season twice. When you play for the second time it has little bearing, mainly cause of the extra time to study and change things around .

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