2015 NFL System - JM + Modified

**imotiv8** · 09-30-15, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by msetai

Hey on3 I have lions at 9.5 so do I buy it to 10 which is -120

Bears -115

But Ravens to PK from -2.5 it's -165

Not sure what to do here...thanks!

Its good to get lines early but sometimes that can come back to bite you (especially when you get Sunday games lines on Tuesday)

For example lets say Bears go to a +3 between now and Sunday...we would buy 1/2 a point and have it at +3.5 and it'll be a loss for you as far as the system goes (assuming they loss by a field goal)

But for the Ravens game tomm you should bet ML anyway not buy points

**nspa87** · 09-30-15, 09:27 AM

Has anyone tried this but by fading winners on same system?

**TenCount** · 09-30-15, 05:47 PM

So if the line we get lands on a key number we are just letting it be and not buying any points?
* For example my book has Detroit at +10. I am not buying any points. But if it was at +9.5 I would buy to +10....

**nspa87** · 09-30-15, 06:02 PM

Correct

**TenCount** · 09-30-15, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by nspa87

Correct

Thx

**msetai** · 09-30-15, 11:51 PM

Ok got it, just put them in!

**chilidog** · 10-01-15, 06:26 PM

We won't be hearing from Tony Chau for a little while now; he was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison and ordered to stay out of the gambling business for 3 years after his release.

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"A Las Vegas betting expert was sentenced Thursday to 18 months in federal prison for running an illegal gambling operation and hiding money from the IRS.Tony Chau, 32, a Vietnamese immigrant who marketed an online wagering system to customers across the country, also was ordered to pay $567,571 in restitution to the IRS and forfeit another $1.4 million to the government.
U.S. District Judge Richard Boulware also told Chau he would have to serve 200 hours of community service and stay out of the gambling business during three years of supervised release after prison.
Chau, who has until Nov. 30 to surrender, apologized for his actions and told Boulware he has lost everything.
"Your honor, I stand before you today a broken man," Chau said, acknowledging that he should have been more careful in his business dealings.
Boulware said Chau he seemed like a "thoughtful and industrious" man and he hoped his talent and energy would be channeled to the right side of the law when he gets out of prison.
Chau operated the now-closed sportsbettingchamp.com website with help from offshore sports books in Costa Rica and Panama, which do not have Nevada licenses, according to his May plea agreement with federal prosecutors.
He pleaded guilty to three charges: conducting an illegal gambling business, money laundering and making a false statement on a tax return.
Chau established his customer base through sale of his wagering system, and then referred customers to the offshore sports books to set up betting accounts, according to the plea agreement. He received commissions from the sports books on the gambling losses of the customers.
The IRS investigation revealed that Chau failed to report the $1.4 million he earned from the offshore sports books on his tax returns between 2008 and 2011.
Chau started the illegal gambling business in 2007, while he lived in Massachusetts, and kept it going in 2008 after he moved to Las Vegas, authorities said."

**nspa87** · 10-01-15, 10:59 PM

I don't understand- is he the original poster?

**pinchegringo** · 10-02-15, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by nspa87

Has anyone tried this but by fading winners on same system?

Prbly, I imagine the riding losers creates more value than fading winners though.

**imotiv8** · 10-02-15, 09:15 AM

Good win last night!

**Brundle99** · 10-03-15, 05:29 AM

Tony Chau.....what a tit 😂

**hagball52** · 10-04-15, 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=chilidog;24577281]We won't be hearing from Tony Chau for a little while now; he was sentenced to 18 months in federal prison and ordered to stay out of the gambling business for 3 years after his release.

Thanks Chili. What's really funny is he is pounding me with emails about all of his services. He's making one last run before he goes out. I just don't know what we're going to do with ourselves for 3 years. You would think by now that he would have enough money after ripping so many people off.

**ScorpionSnow** · 10-04-15, 08:51 AM

Tony Chad has emailed me saying there is an Annihilator NFL Betting play for today . I don't understand how it is a play as the team must lose 3 games SU and ATS they must play at home and point spread must be -3.5 to -7, or +10 and higher.
As the only team is Chicago but there point spread is +3.5 how is this a play under his Annihilator ?

**bravoman81** · 10-04-15, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by scorpionsnow

tony chad has emailed me saying there is an annihilator nfl betting play for today . I don't understand how it is a play as the team must lose 3 games su and ats they must play at home and point spread must be -3.5 to -7, or +10 and higher.
As the only team is chicago but there point spread is +3.5 how is this a play under his annihilator ?

dunno

**chilidog** · 10-04-15, 02:12 PM

I think he's broke, after pushing so hard to raise money to pay off the IRS and the other fines/penalties.

Originally posted by hagball52

Thanks Chili. What's really funny is he is pounding me with emails about all of his services. He's making one last run before he goes out. I just don't know what we're going to do with ourselves for 3 years. You would think by now that he would have enough money after ripping so many people off.

**uup115** · 10-05-15, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by on3

hmm, no excitement here yet...

Oh, it's coming!

**on3** · 10-05-15, 11:49 AM

system record: 2-0
mod system record: 0-0
units: +2

labby line (.5 = half unit)
x-x-.5-.5-x-x

week 4 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

(A) Detroit +10 (-125) to win 1 unit

week 5 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

(A) Kansas City -10/??? to win 1 unit -- per the rules of the system, play ML
(A) San Fran +7 to win 1 unit

week 6 potential plays (lost 2 SU and 2 ATS/lost 1 SU and 1 ATS (MOD)):(A) Miami
dallas
tampa bay
arizona (MOD)

week 7 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

buffalo
philly
oakland
houston
arizona

**on3** · 10-05-15, 11:51 AM

for next week with KC being a play -- the rules say to play the game on ML. for this game, the ML will be in the -450 range. i will grade the play based on official rules, but i personally wont be playing this game on the ML. i will bet my unit on a combination of spread/teaser options with SF involved.

**nspa87** · 10-05-15, 02:45 PM

Yeah that ML for KC is ridiculous

**playinragz** · 10-05-15, 03:13 PM

Well you posted the 3 winners prior to the games so well done. Keep up the good work and maybe one of these betters won't be in divorce court by week. 17

**nspa87** · 10-05-15, 05:57 PM

Thanks for keeping this updated!

**msetai** · 10-05-15, 10:59 PM

cash money

since kc is too expensive only play is sf?

**TenCount** · 10-06-15, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by playinragz

Well you posted the 3 winners prior to the games so well done. Keep up the good work and maybe one of these betters won't be in divorce court by week. 17

As opposed to what? Posting 3 winners after the games? lol

**imotiv8** · 10-06-15, 08:37 AM

Another good win!

**on3** · 10-06-15, 11:00 AM

system record: 3-0
mod system record: 0-0
units: +3

labby line (.5 = half unit)
.5-.5-.5-.5

MOD labby line
.5-.5-.5-.5

week 5 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

(A) Kansas City -10/-440 to win 1 unit -- per the rules of the system, play ML
(A) San Fran +7 to win 1 unit
(A) (MOD) Dallas +10 (-130) to win 1 unit

week 6 potential plays (lost 2 SU and 2 ATS/lost 1 SU and 1 ATS (MOD)):(A) Miami

dallas
tampa bay
arizona (MOD)

week 7 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

buffalo
philly
oakland
houston
arizona

**on3** · 10-06-15, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by msetai

cash money

since kc is too expensive only play is sf?

nope, KC is an official play along with SF. it will be graded on the rules of the system (moneyline for favorites), but it is up to you on how you want to manage your bankroll.

**md3324** · 10-06-15, 02:21 PM

I have Dallas as a MOD play this week, am I wrong? They've lost their last two games SU and failed to cover and they are 2-2.

**on3** · 10-06-15, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by md3324

I have Dallas as a MOD play this week, am I wrong? They've lost their last two games SU and failed to cover and they are 2-2.

you absolutely correct, they are a MOD play, technically. with those injuries ill have to hold my nose placing action. post updated.

**msetai** · 10-07-15, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by on3

nope, KC is an official play along with SF. it will be graded on the rules of the system (moneyline for favorites), but it is up to you on how you want to manage your bankroll.

Oh okay. So even with the massive -450 ppl should play that? Doesn't that mess up money management for B and C games? Also seems like Dal is a play on the mod. With the mod it's mentioned up to 1.5 points are bought at times...are you doing this?

Just a little confused this week sorry!

**on3** · 10-07-15, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by msetai

Oh okay. So even with the massive -450 ppl should play that? Doesn't that mess up money management for B and C games? Also seems like Dal is a play on the mod. With the mod it's mentioned up to 1.5 points are bought at times...are you doing this?

Just a little confused this week sorry!

dallas is a play at +10
for kansas city at -450 it is your decision if you want to play it or not. it's okay to sit out a play/series, +1 unit to your bankroll wont make you a millionaire. personally, i am doing a 7 point tease on KC and SF for 2 units. if it loses, i will make up my chase on the (B) and (C) bets. but the official play is KC ML.

**pinchegringo** · 10-12-15, 09:01 AM

So...next plays:

?

Miami +3.5 A (buy half point)
Kansas City +3.5 B

Week 7 Dallas B (MOD) (BYE)

Are those correct? Missing any?

**on3** · 10-12-15, 12:56 PM

system record: 4-0
mod system record: 0-0
units: -.4 (KC open -4.4 units)
mod units: -1.3 (DAL open -1.3 units)

labby line (.5 = half unit)
x-.5-.5-x-4.4

MOD labby line
.5-.5-.5-.5-1.3

week 6 plays (lost 3 SU and 3 ATS):

(B) Kansas City +3.5 to win 4.9 units
(A) Miami +3.5 (-140) to win 1 unit

week 7 potential plays (lost 2 SU and 2 ATS/lost 1 SU and 1 ATS (MOD)):

(B) (MOD) Dallas
(A) Dallas
oakland
houston

week 8 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

jax
new orleans
baltimore
st louis
detroit

**Sherfire** · 10-13-15, 01:24 PM

I apologize for the new guy question but Labby system... are you essentially adding the lost bet amount on top of the standard bet.

So you place 20 on a system pick. It loses so your next bet you're placing 40... then if that loses then you place 60? Essentially trying to just gain back what was lost previously in addition to the standard bet?

**on3** · 10-14-15, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Sherfire

I apologize for the new guy question but Labby system... are you essentially adding the lost bet amount on top of the standard bet.

So you place 20 on a system pick. It loses so your next bet you're placing 40... then if that loses then you place 60? Essentially trying to just gain back what was lost previously in addition to the standard bet?

if your line is 10-10-10-10 -- that's a 20 (A) play. if that loses at normal vig then youre at 10-10-10-10-22 -- that's a 32 (B) play. if that loses at normal vig then youre at 10-10-10-10-22-35 -- that's a 45 (C) play. get it?

**bking79** · 10-18-15, 07:48 AM

so dolphins and chiefs today ? with the spreads