1. 12-13-11 06:34 PM #36
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    I've got em in a teaser so Im hoping they just win by 8 or more However I did notice that they really havent ever blown anyone out on the road. I got them winning by 10-13. Like another poster said, if you wanna go straight up against the spread, id look elsewhere, couple games out there with not as sharp a line as this one.
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  2. 12-13-11 07:08 PM #37
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    I'm a huge chiefs fan and I would not take the chiefs at all even to cover here..they might score 10 and that's high no matter who's qb
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  3. 12-13-11 07:50 PM #38
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    A smart NFL capper would either take the dog or stay away in this match up. Since 1989, DD road favs are 52-70-4 ATS (57.3% fade). With a 52.38% breakeven (-110), taking DD Home dogs is a long term profitable situation.

    Since Dec. 06, 2009, DD road favs are 1-12 ATS.

    This year they are 0-5 ATS

    *GB -10 @ CAR (30-23)
    *PITT -10.5 @ IND (23-20)
    *GB -10 @ MIN (33-27)
    *NO -13.5 @ STL (21-31)
    *PITT -10.5 @ KC (13-9)

    In the Month of December, DD road favs are 11-27-1 ATS (71% fade) since 1989 and 0-10 ATS since 2007.

    Teams with 12 or more wins playing as DD road favs are 1-10-1 ATS since 1990.
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  4. 12-13-11 10:45 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    A smart NFL capper would either take the dog or stay away in this match up. Since 1989, DD road favs are 52-70-4 ATS (57.3% fade). With a 52.38% breakeven (-110), taking DD Home dogs is a long term profitable situation.

    Since Dec. 06, 2009, DD road favs are 1-12 ATS.

    This year they are 0-5 ATS

    *GB -10 @ CAR (30-23)
    *PITT -10.5 @ IND (23-20)
    *GB -10 @ MIN (33-27)
    *NO -13.5 @ STL (21-31)
    *PITT -10.5 @ KC (13-9)

    In the Month of December, DD road favs are 11-27-1 ATS (71% fade) since 1989 and 0-10 ATS since 2007.

    Teams with 12 or more wins playing as DD road favs are 1-10-1 ATS since 1990.
    Please

    How many of those teams were QB'ed by Aaron Rodgers
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  5. 12-14-11 07:10 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    Please

    How many of those teams were QB'ed by Aaron Rodgers
    Two games this year by Aaron Rodgers. And if you are referencing a "solid QB" does not lose as DD favs on the road you are wrong. Many of those 12+ wins teams that are 1-10-1 ATS since 1990, that had a "solid QB" on their team, didn't cover. I can list them for you if you want.

    I was suggesting one should EITHER take the dog OR stay away from the game as it is a profitable long term play to play on DD home dogs. Obviously 'other factors' need to be considered before jumping the Chiefs or fading GB. Do you think before you type?
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  6. 12-14-11 07:25 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    Two games this year by Aaron Rodgers. And if you are referencing a "solid QB" does not lose as DD favs on the road you are wrong. Many of those 12+ wins teams that are 1-10-1 ATS since 1990, that had a "solid QB" on their team, didn't cover. I can list them for you if you want. I was suggesting one should EITHER take the dog OR stay away from the game as it is a profitable long term play to play on DD home dogs. Obviously 'other factors' need to be considered before jumping the Chiefs or fading GB. Do you think before you type?
    Were the Pack not double digit favourites against the Raiders?

    How'd that go?
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  7. 12-14-11 07:32 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umad Brasiek View Post
    Were the Pack not double digit favourites against the Raiders?

    How'd that go?

    I am referring to DD ROAD favs!!!!!! GB was a DD HOME fav vs. Oakland. God bless.
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  8. 12-14-11 10:21 AM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umad Brasiek View Post
    Were the Pack not double digit favourites against the Raiders?

    How'd that go?


    He's talking about on the road.

    Were the Packers not double digit favorites against Tampa Bay?

    How'd that go?
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  9. 12-14-11 01:30 PM #44
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    KC may cover. But I am not going against what is working for me. I have been on Packers for weeks now and I am not giving up on that. They have been solid on ATS and why go against the trend?
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  10. 12-14-11 01:47 PM #45
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    Any word on Orton??

    You guys missed the point of the thread I see...

    Fading Packers a bad idea most of the time...

    If Orton starts, this is the rare time I think there is value in doing so...

    How many times have the Packers covered 2 TD's this year??
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  11. 12-14-11 02:03 PM #46
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    "Coach Romeo Crennel says that Orton (finger) will be the Chiefs' starting QB Sunday against Green Bay if he is healthy enough, Kent Babb of The Kansas City Star reports."
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  12. 12-14-11 02:55 PM #47
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    ^
    Orton is starting from the accounts I just read
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  13. 12-14-11 03:02 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Orton is starting from the accounts I just read
    In at +14...

    Think it goes back down a little...
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  14. 12-14-11 04:02 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Any word on Orton?? You guys missed the point of the thread I see... Fading Packers a bad idea most of the time... If Orton starts, this is the rare time I think there is value in doing so... How many times have the Packers covered 2 TD's this year??
    They covered 2 td's the last time they faced Orton this year & they picked him off 3 times.
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  15. 12-14-11 05:08 PM #50
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    Did everyone see Ryan Grant come to life last week??? Even if GB isn't throwing all over KC, they'll be running all over them.. as any team that plays GB always has to respect the pass, leaving some lanes open for a halfway decent back..
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  16. 12-14-11 06:04 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    They covered 2 td's the last time they faced Orton this year & they picked him off 3 times.

    What the hell does that have to do with anything? This is the NFL. This is a totally different situation. It amazes me those with the inability so see things out side the box. Close-minded individuals will have no chance in succeeding capping sports. It's called critical thinking...look it up.
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  17. 12-18-11 02:27 PM #52
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  18. 12-18-11 02:41 PM #53
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    I dont really like you ....
    but this was a good call. Credit where Credit is due
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  19. 12-18-11 02:49 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    assuming palko doesn't start...

    Jennings out...

    Chiefs have frustrated some good teams on defense this year for stretches (steelers and pats)

    might rain and be windy...

    Packers now know staying healthy much more important than winning by 30+...

    Chiefs playing for new coach (crennel)

    something to keep an eye on...

    Chiefs +13.5 right now...
    great call!!!!!!!!!!
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  20. 12-18-11 02:58 PM #55
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    Nice call
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  21. 12-18-11 03:21 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan707 View Post
    Please
    How many of those teams were QB'ed by Aaron Rodgers
    Uhhhh......one now.

    Foldi is a sharp son-of-a-bitch.
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  22. 12-18-11 03:42 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
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    brock and 90% of the thread against you

    easy money
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  23. 12-18-11 03:51 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    The Packers right now are the best team in NFL history period. Even Bill Cowher said so and I'll go out on a limb and say he knows a little more about football than you.
    I know they lost and all, but I just saw this. Even if they had won today they are not the best NFL team of all time with that defense they have.
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  24. 12-18-11 10:37 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    A smart NFL capper would either take the dog or stay away in this match up. Since 1989, DD road favs are 52-70-4 ATS (57.3% fade). With a 52.38% breakeven (-110), taking DD Home dogs is a long term profitable situation.

    Since Dec. 06, 2009, DD road favs are 1-12 ATS.

    This year they are 0-5 ATS

    *GB -10 @ CAR (30-23)
    *PITT -10.5 @ IND (23-20)
    *GB -10 @ MIN (33-27)
    *NO -13.5 @ STL (21-31)
    *PITT -10.5 @ KC (13-9)

    In the Month of December, DD road favs are 11-27-1 ATS (71% fade) since 1989 and 0-10 ATS since 2007.

    Teams with 12 or more wins playing as DD road favs are 1-10-1 ATS since 1990.

    OK...put this in your back pocket for future reference.! Now 0-6 this year and yes Aaron Rodgers is 0-3 this year in this situation!
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  25. 12-18-11 10:44 PM #60
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    Nice call here King...this looked like the 13-0 chiefs against the 5-8 packers...not the other way around...orton was locked in today...this game wasn't near as close as the final score...if the chiefs could have taken advantage of down and goal they win by 20 or more...
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    Good Job. Orton really made the difference.

    KC vs Denver shaping up to be a classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    What the hell does that have to do with anything? This is the NFL. This is a totally different situation. It amazes me those with the inability so see things out side the box. Close-minded individuals will have no chance in succeeding capping sports. It's called critical thinking...look it up.
    Wow- nice response - getting your jollies or what? Critical thinking sure!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    Wow- nice response - getting your jollies or what? Critical thinking sure!!!

    Please don't make me explain your idiotic comment about Orton's performance as a Bronco against GB vs. him as a Chief against GB.

    Just think my friend...you will be a much better gambler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    Please don't make me explain your idiotic comment about Orton's performance as a Bronco against GB vs. him as a Chief against GB. Just think my friend...you will be a much better gambler.
    First I am a Packers fan but for you to infer from my previous post that I was on the Packers or that 1 statement of facts can indicate a persons' ability or inability to handicap says alot about how much of a critical thinker you really are.
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  30. 12-18-11 11:38 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    They covered 2 td's the last time they faced Orton this year & they picked him off 3 times.

    The above "inference" to prelude Orton as a 'Chief' is going to do the same when he was a Bronco is absurd.
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  31. 12-19-11 01:23 AM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by thejrichshow85 View Post
    bet the packers or stay away.

    i don't see how the cheifs will even get in the redzone this game, they are awful!

    packers roll 45-3 maybe 45-10

    you always predict blowouts that never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakydave View Post
    Wow- nice response - getting your jollies or what? Critical thinking sure!!!




    So we cant laugh at your team when they lose? Its okay the Bears lost to the chiefs as well.
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  33. 12-19-11 01:32 AM #68
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    Call of the NFL year...........


    No one can top this one...............
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  34. 12-19-11 01:35 AM #69
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  35. 12-19-11 02:09 AM #70
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    The guy has been saying the Packers are going to lose every week, dont suck him off just yet. Tebow is going to win the super bowl anyway
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