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    Patriots -3??

    With Vince Young playing against the red hot Patriots why is the spread only -3? Is this a trap? Or is it another easy winner like Green Bay at -4?

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    I like the Pats here regardless. I don't care if it is -6

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    yeah seems too good to be true but there has been alot of those games this year with the public favorites.

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    Grabbed -3 @1.952 at opening, I really like NE here.

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    Mostly 3.5's now

    What looks like a trap is a standard line.....it be -1.5 or less with Vick

    Nnamdi Asomugha got hurt in practice also.

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    Line looks good to me...this is the first game all season I have not expected the eagles to win... hopefully I am wrong like 6 out of 10 times so far...

    with no DRC and possibly no Nnamdi, it is going to be a tough task to slow brady... Normally, I would think the eagles would keep up with with their weapons on offense...but no maclin and esp. no vick gives me major doubts.. Vince looked ok last week as the game went on, but I cant see him being able to put up 25+ that may be needed to win this game as Vick could have the ability to do... I wont be betting it, but NE -3 seems like a steal to me

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    NE-3 and the under. Exactly the same type of game as GB-DET I think.

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    LOL @ maclin
    hes a nobody why would that make a difference????

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    Phi su

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwd201 View Post
    LOL @ maclin
    hes a nobody why would that make a difference????
    70 catches, 1000 yards, and 10 tds last yr.... nobody?

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    well the last meeting the game only decided by three point and another thing consider is the a.j freely who was qb on last meeting for phila. best thing stay away from this game. a.j freely is not better than vince young

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    What does the last game and A.J Feely have to do with it? I think Brady is getting into playoff mode and he is hard to stop and there defense is starting to finally click as well. Just seems too easy.

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    like eagles ML here. gl getting buried squares

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    dude eagle getting point at home is alot. i mean u barely see that kind of line. this line is perfect for bookie. u have to understand bookie logic sometime, not a gambler logic. u might give 4 to eagle by game start. andy reid is a bad coach but his record is not something we can sleep on and go aginst him. i mean what happen last game eagle and giant. giants dun have bad reocord but eagle still beat them at their territory with a back up vy. and eagle to the playoff is not done yet, they want to win to get back to top standing. they still have highest paying roster. if u really look at it. its not over for them. i really dun c pat beat eagle by blow out. is very slim chance that happening. vy can be better than mv in my eyes. my advice really stay away from this game. probably mess with total. if u dun believe me look at all the recent meeting. it show alot how they play each other.

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    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/..._Patriots.html

    pretty good info for this Sunday.

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    Falcons -6.5 at Indy was too good to be true.

    49ers -3.5 at Washington too good.

    Bears -3.5 vs Chargers too good.

    Don't fall for the garbage. Take the Patriots because they are a much better team.

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    i never underestimate bookie line of what they put out for favor. i only think of bookie putting wrong line for under dog. like thanksgiving on miami. that is wrong line bookie right off the back

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    Yeah the Green Bay game at -4 seemed like a square play but I couldn't pass it up. I just don't see how a hurt Eagles Team is going to be able to score with Brady. Also I don't know where you are getting info about there past games. They haven't played since 2007 according to ESPN
    Nov 25, 2007NWE 31, PHI 28Feb 6, 2005NWE 24, @PHI 21Sep 14, 2003NWE 31, @PHI 10

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    is asomahagga out for this game?

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    over!

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    Eagles will give everything they have in this one , dont trust patriots on the road. But if that all pro CB is out for Eagles I might have to go big on Patriots anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Line looks good to me...this is the first game all season I have not expected the eagles to win... hopefully I am wrong like 6 out of 10 times so far...
    It does look too easy to be true even with Aso out, but as long as Mccoy gets ENOUGH carries, eagles easily can win at home. It's not like the addition of Aso made you guys world beaters in the first place.

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    i got my info here
    covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/matchups/g1_summary_10.html

    philly cover the last two. its been a while since they play each other. 05 meeting was super bowl. i had that as lock.

    dun start overrate pat d. look at their opponent. i dun remember last two can put up a lot point and pat got beaten by giants and eagle beaten giant last week. the line look lovely to public but bettor like us is different story. u did watch the kc game. what happen to pat at start. they went 0 4 drive. thing like that can happen
    Last edited by cmle123; 11-26-11 at 03:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmle123 View Post
    i got my info here
    covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/matchups/g1_summary_10.html

    philly cover the last two. its been a while since they play each other. 05 meeting was super bowl. i had that as lock.

    dun start overrate pat d. look at their opponent. i dun remember last two can put up a lot point and pat got beaten by giants and eagle beaten giant last week. the line look lovely to public but bettor like us is different story. u did watch the kc game. what happen to pat at start. they went 0 4 drive. thing like that can happen
    I am reeally not one to criticize the writing/grammar of others, but geez dude... Take a small amount of time and craft a few words and sentences that are a result of the ideas/thoughts in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post

    70 catches, 1000 yards, and 10 tds last yr.... nobody?
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Eagles will give everything they have in this one , dont trust patriots on the road. But if that all pro CB is out for Eagles I might have to go big on Patriots anyway
    asamugah has been horrible this year for the eagles. asante samuel is better than him. no comparison as far as this year goes and obviously all time where asante is one of the great cover corners

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    Pats should cover, I don't think Philly is going to get to Brady like they did Eli last week.

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    Pats have to win to keep up wit Ravens for home field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yD View Post
    Falcons -6.5 at Indy was too good to be true.

    49ers -3.5 at Washington too good.

    Bears -3.5 vs Chargers too good.

    Don't fall for the garbage. Take the Patriots because they are a much better team.
    What about all the games that were too good to be true and lost?

    3 games is a huge sample.

    Much better team? "Much" as they can't even beat the Giants at home....lol

    Eagles suck but who have the Patriots beat all year? How about on the road?? No one.

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    i like ne to cover

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    Just a caution

    The pats are very division/conference and then NFC focused. Just sayin. NYG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Line looks good to me...this is the first game all season I have not expected the eagles to win... hopefully I am wrong like 6 out of 10 times so far...

    with no DRC and possibly no Nnamdi, it is going to be a tough task to slow brady... Normally, I would think the eagles would keep up with with their weapons on offense...but no maclin and esp. no vick gives me major doubts.. Vince looked ok last week as the game went on, but I cant see him being able to put up 25+ that may be needed to win this game as Vick could have the ability to do... I wont be betting it, but NE -3 seems like a steal to me
    Well said

    I'm on the Pats -3.5, your write-up is similar to what I was thinking.

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    I like the Pats here as well, they should win by a touchdown. Good luck!

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    This game has the makings of the Pittsburgh-New England game a few weeks back. Similar spread and situation were the Pats were coming of a huge win and had historically beat up the Steelers.

    Eagles money line baby!

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    the trap is on a team. not a bettor. hiltons week 13 lines have PHI -3.5 @ SEA and NWE -20.5 vs IND. its clear to me that jay and his linesmakers believe that PHI will lose value and NWE will maintain value after sundays results. road favs of -3 to -3.5 are 63.5% SU and 53.5% ATS. road favs of -3 to -3.5 vs non-conference opponent are 66.5% SU and 54.5% ATS. i guess you gotta like PHI moneyline or NWE -3. ill take Gronk and NWE -3.

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