View Poll Results: How will the Packers fare in the 2011-12 NFL Season?

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  • They will lose some games but still go all the way

    11 36.67%
  • They will have multiple losses! Super Bowl hangover

    9 30.00%
  • They will have an undefeated reg. season but no ring

    3 10.00%
  • They will lose their first game at Super Bowl XLVI

    0 0%
  • They will do the 2007 Patriots one better

    7 23.33%
  1. #1
    SportsMushroom
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    Do Packers go undefeated into the playoffs???

    their schedule does not seem that challenging

    theoretically, most of the teams they are playing have a better than .500 record but in reality those teams are average, they are not real contenders

    @San Diego
    Minnesota
    Tampa Bay
    @Detroit
    @New York Giants
    Oakland
    @Kansas City
    Chicago
    Detroit


    I suppose it will all depend on if they will be resting players towards the end of the season
    Last edited by SportsMushroom; 10-24-11 at 05:20 AM.

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    They will do the 2007 Patriots one better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    They will do the 2007 Patriots one better
    I guess if there is one team that can go 19-0, this must be it

    its not only about the packers dominance this year, its also about how non dominant the rest of the league is

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    i'm hurt 2-21 today

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    Someone will clip them on the road, Rogers also can get hurt
    Guy is a machine right now though

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    They may consider resting Rodgers at the end of the season. That would kill the undefeated season.

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    who knows but they r a good team

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    Prop on this went from -500 to -1000 quickly

    5dimes has a bunch on this.

    NO

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    Giants will beat them.. They don't match up well against the giants

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    Chargers, Giants, Bears, Lions twice... they will lose at least 2 of these

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    Green Bay Packers - Regular Season Undefeated
    Sun 11/6 18501 Packers win 16 regular season games +400
    1:00PM 18502 Packers lose/tie a regular season game -600

    Green Bay Packers - Regular Season Undefeated & Win Superbowl
    Sun 11/6 18503 Packers win 18 games & Superbowl +650
    1:00PM 18504 Pack lose/tie regular or postseason game -1350

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Green Bay Packers - Regular Season Undefeated Sun 11/6 18501 Packers win 16 regular season games +400 1:00PM 18502 Packers lose/tie a regular season game -600 Green Bay Packers - Regular Season Undefeated & Win Superbowl Sun 11/6 18503 Packers win 18 games & Superbowl +650 1:00PM 18504 Pack lose/tie regular or postseason game -1350
    those are really bad odds, if you place a bet on packers during every week then you will end up with a lot more money than if you bet that prop

    for example if you take that prop at $100 dollars you will win 400 if they go undefeated in the regular season, but if take that $100 and keep going all in on the packers every week for the next 8 games you will end up with $1000 assuming average odds of -300, given that the only team on the packers schedule with a losing record are the vikings, the average odds should be higher than that

    then the average odds in the playoffs will increase as well

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    they will lose @ San Diego and/or @ NYG
    i understand how much better they are than both of these teams, and how great Rodgers is. I just think they are not unbeatable

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    their schedule does not seem that challenging

    theoretically, most of the teams they are playing have a better than .500 record but in reality those teams are average, they are not real contenders

    @San Diego
    Minnesota
    Tampa Bay
    @Detroit
    @New York Giants
    Oakland
    @Kansas City
    Chicago
    Detroit


    I suppose it will all depend on if they will be resting players towards the end of the season

    None of those games is a cinch. With the exception of Minny, who took GB to the wire yesterday, all of those teams are playoff bubble teams who might be fighting for their playoff lives when they meet GB. Chargers/Raiders/Chiefs are all within 1 game in the AFC West with GB going to SD next week which might narrow the gap further if GB beats SD. NYG are leading their division and we all know about Chicago, Detroit & TB fighting for those wildcard spots. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers do something like 5-4 the rest of the way because that defense looks nothing like last year's team, apparently losing guys like Cullen Jenkins & Nick Collins is bigger than the dream chasers want to admit.

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    They'll lose somewhere along the line. It just happens, even with the great teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    those are really bad odds, if you place a bet on packers during every week then you will end up with a lot more money than if you bet that prop

    for example if you take that prop at $100 dollars you will win 400 if they go undefeated in the regular season, but if take that $100 and keep going all in on the packers every week for the next 8 games you will end up with $1000 assuming average odds of -300, given that the only team on the packers schedule with a losing record are the vikings, the average odds should be higher than that

    then the average odds in the playoffs will increase as well
    Taking YES is stupid. Taking NO is a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Taking YES is stupid. Taking NO is a winner.
    taking -600 is never a winner

    1. This is a gambling forum
    2. I assume that everyone on a gambling forum is an experienced gambler
    3. I expect that -600 is something an experienced gambler will never put money on

    If I were to bet no I would wait for them to win 2-3 more games so that I could get better odds

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    taking -600 is never a winner

    1. This is a gambling forum
    2. I assume that everyone on a gambling forum is an experienced gambler
    3. I expect that -600 is something an experienced gambler will never put money on

    If I were to bet no I would wait for them to win 2-3 more games so that I could get better odds
    Yeah it is in some situations.

    Sea vs Pit I would gladly put 100k on the ML if I had the cash to throw around. People think 10% returns for the year are great.

    So you have a 16% investment here which is 95% + going to hit. Plus you can always hedge out late in the season with good odds. Only problem would be the limits here obviously and having money tied up for that long.

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    Will lose last game at home vs det.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Yeah it is in some situations. Sea vs Pit I would gladly put 100k on the ML if I had the cash to throw around. People think 10% returns for the year are great. So you have a 16% investment here which is 95% + going to hit. Plus you can always hedge out late in the season with good odds. Only problem would be the limits here obviously and having money tied up for that long.
    and if it loses you are down 100k, may I remind you that only 2 weeks ago seattle beat the giants in new york, a -1000 fav, that day turned a lot of people homeless

    may I remind you what happened during the weekend with oklahoma? a -8000 fav that lost?


    you yourself are negating your own point, you are trying to make a point that betting -1000 favs is ok, and saying its ok to bet -600 for the packers to lose a game, but you are neglecting that for that to happen it means that a -1000 to -600 fav will need to lose at the same time
    Last edited by SportsMushroom; 10-24-11 at 10:34 AM.

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    Anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMushroom View Post
    and if it loses you are down 100k, may I remind you that only 2 weeks ago seattle beat the giants in new york, a -1000 fav, that day turned a lot of people homeless

    may I remind you what happened during the weekend with oklahoma? a -8000 fav that lost?


    you yourself are negating your own point, you are trying to make a point that betting -1000 favs is ok, and saying its ok to bet -600 for the packers to lose a game, but you are neglecting that for that to happen it means that a -1000 to -600 fav will need to lose at the same time
    I would never bet Giants in that spot. I mostly play dogs anyway. The two Seattle games might look similar but are very different. If the game is still too close you can just adjust LIVE.

    You have like 9 chances for the Packers to lose one. Plus chance of resting. I`m not betting it anyway just saying sometimes big faves have actual value if you calculate the numbers.
    What do you think the odds of Packers going undefeated areÉ

    bet365 has +650 for this prop.

    They have st louis or Colts to go 0-16 +1000 lol

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    Would you take the Patriots to win the division at -333 right now

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    Would you take the Packers -333 to win the division

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    I think there is many games they could lose. I highly doubt they end the season perfect. Just look at their game on Sunday. Vs. a good team they might not of been so lucky. Besides the Saints, they really have not played a top tier team yet. Hell even when they played the bears it was when the Bears D was shit.
    The second half of their schedule is about 100 times tougher. San Diego, Oakland, NYG, Chicago (now with their d playing good), Detroit twice.
    I say they finish the season with two losses. The packers Defense has been shit this year. So i defiantly see one of the games they lose vs. Detroit.
    The bears/packer games are usually hard fought games in the regular season, the bears D is playing at a much higher rate now.
    San Diego, is a great team obviously. Again, the packers secondary has been terrible, if the S.D defense can step up...
    The packers SOS has been pretty easy in the first half and its going to get much much harder.

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    Minnesota wins at Green Bay.

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    I think they lose after the bye, SD.

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    Green Bay could lose ANY ONE of those remaining games besides Kansas City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Would you take the Patriots to win the division at -333 right now
    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Would you take the Packers -333 to win the division
    no and no

    I dont play juice

    but anyhow, I never would have bet them because I dont like my money tied up for a long time

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    27th ranked D, if they didn't get those interceptions yesterday they very well could have lost. Maybe it's hard to get up to play the Vikings? I think some gets 'em but that offensive is a nightmare for most teams.

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    They're good but they don't seem like a great team to me. 14-2 at best but I say they go 13-3 and lose the NFC Championship or Super Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Minnesota wins at Green Bay.
    You can put the crack pipe down now guy.

    Most likely losses will either be Detroit on Thanksgiving or the Giants. They have the bye week to tweak their defense some, If they ever get back Mike Neal, Cullen Jenkins' replacement watch out.
    They're giving up a lot of yards, but their red zone defense is still very good which is most important.

    On offense, it's pick your poison, easily have the most weapons of anybody in the league on offense.

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    really dont think anyone in the nfc can beat them in the playoffs so at this point it hard to say anything but yes they go all the way...dont think they go undefeated tho, 14-2 seems pretty reasonable. sd could clip them. wouldnt shock me if they lose in det on thanksgiving. bears generally play them tough so the gm against them wont be easy...undefeated no, SB yes..still a long way to go tho, lots can happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasInsider View Post
    Green Bay could lose ANY ONE of those remaining games besides Kansas City.
    I 100 percent agree, IMO there is almost no chance they go 16-0. I would put it under 1 percent.
    Their defense is just not that good this year, and they have gotten lucky a few times this year they were facing bad teams. Carolina and Minnesota games to be specific.

    Det. to me on thanks-given is the game to look at. I think it matches up great for their first loss, or second loss if they lose to s.d. Det. now a good team is going to watch to win that game, after years of terrible thanksgiven games, in which they still played hard. With dets. passing game, assuming everyone stays healthy i love Det in that game.

    To me it seems, like the packers have not played a good full game since the New Orleans game. ATL Carolina Minnesota, they started off slow.
    Rams game they whipped the rams up in first half, but then couldn't do anything in the 2nd half, and i doubt it was just as simple as a lack of effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevedore View Post
    You can put the crack pipe down now guy.

    Most likely losses will either be Detroit on Thanksgiving or the Giants. They have the bye week to tweak their defense some, If they ever get back Mike Neal, Cullen Jenkins' replacement watch out.
    They're giving up a lot of yards, but their red zone defense is still very good which is most important.

    On offense, it's pick your poison, easily have the most weapons of anybody in the league on offense.


    rankings aside i still like Packs d more than most when push comes to shove..

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