1. 10-19-11 04:43 PM #36
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  3. 10-19-11 04:58 PM #38
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    this of course would come from a philly fan. Since im around philly all of them are arrogant loud idiots who thought there eagles would be a dream team, and you are saying that palmer will magically make the raiders a super bowl team.

    You are a dumb
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  4. 10-19-11 05:04 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by surffreak View Post
    this of course would come from a philly fan. Since im around philly all of them are arrogant loud idiots who thought there eagles would be a dream team, and you are saying that palmer will magically make the raiders a super bowl team.

    You are a dumb
    If you don't want to be around Philly fans then get out of Philly B.

    Palmer makes the Raiders a Super Bowl contender for sure. They are going to stomp a mudhole in the Chiefs azz this week.
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  5. 10-19-11 05:10 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Are you going to wager on that?
    Actually I am.
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  6. 10-19-11 05:37 PM #41
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    Palmer hasn't been a franchise qb since 2005...then his knee got blown out in the playoffs, then he ended up with a VERY bum throwing elbow which sapped him of his arm strength rendering him a mediocre qb. The original poster clearly didn't notice this and somehow the front office of a professional football team also missed it. The last time they went to the playoffs it was only because of their vastly underrated defense under mike zimmer which yet again is carrying the team beyond anyone's expectations.

    The Raiders will be haunted by this trade for the next 5 years at least.
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  7. 10-19-11 06:18 PM #42
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    They won't get pass the brick wall (The Ravens).
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Actually I am.

    Who's offering that bet and what odds are you getting if you don't mind my asking?
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  9. 10-19-11 06:22 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    They won't get pass the brick wall (The Ravens).
    Yea, but isn't Flacco still their qb? So he's not going to take 2 poops in a row? I think he left some on the field against Pitt last year. Ravens better get home field advantage.
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    Man this was the perfect post from someone whose username is 4th and stupid. Well done
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  11. 10-20-11 12:54 AM #46
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    These threads are getting out of hand. The Raiders will NOT even make the playoffs.
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  12. 10-20-11 03:34 AM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Who's offering that bet and what odds are you getting if you don't mind my asking?

    Bodog

    Raiders to make playoffs YES -125
    Raiders over 9.5 wins +105
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  13. 10-20-11 07:57 AM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Bodog

    Raiders to make playoffs YES -125
    NO -105 seems golden to me, I can't believe the YES is favored. Yeah, they'll be in the mix for the second wild card but I just don't think they're good enough to get it.
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  14. 10-20-11 08:13 AM #49
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    palmer needs to get used to the raiders scheme and must adjust to the team. betting them this week is risky. raiders are a solid team but there is just no telling if they are a playoff caliber team yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    These threads are getting out of hand. The Raiders will NOT even make the playoffs.
    afc west is pretty pathetic though . i think it is up for grabs even for oakland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfman14 View Post
    afc west is pretty pathetic though . i think it is up for grabs even for oakland.
    Chargers are still the class of the West, they are actually winning games this year during their typically slow start (how does Norv keep his job?). They will pull away once they go on their yearly late-season charge. Heck, with their early bye week this year, they might start strutting their stuff early vs. the Jets this week.
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  17. 10-20-11 08:56 AM #52
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    Really????

    Not this year anyhow,Hell they are still early to mid stages of identity,but I will say this much they are well on their way especially on their personal decisions now that Al is gone RIP(no insult intended)but you have to admit some of his decisions were pretty far out there...

    If they do somehow make it to the Superbowl this year it will be on pure emotion and respect for Al....

    JUST WIN BABY!!!
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  18. 10-20-11 09:20 AM #53
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    Im with you on this man!
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  19. 10-20-11 09:51 PM #54
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    Com'on Man!
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  20. 10-20-11 11:14 PM #55
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    Am I the only one that thinks palmer will be successful on the raiders? The raiders offense is based on their running game now with mcfadden being the #1 RB in the league. You will see the raiders keep on using him in the offense as always and that will setup palmer with the play action to get some good passes in from time to time. I don't see him being the next Brady but he sure is a better QB than campbell was.
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  21. 10-21-11 12:35 AM #56
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    Palmer used to have a rocket-arm similar to Peyton but after that knee injury he just hasn't been the same. Didn't he have TommyJohn surgery a couple years ago too? He may be healed physically but the psychological hurdle of overcoming what he went through will be the greater test.

    That being said, the AFC West is a crapshoot (except Denver) and I think they have a decent chance of winning the division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep_Rest View Post
    Palmer used to have a rocket-arm similar to Peyton but after that knee injury he just hasn't been the same. Didn't he have TommyJohn surgery a couple years ago too? He may be healed physically but the psychological hurdle of overcoming what he went through will be the greater test.

    That being said, the AFC West is a crapshoot (except Denver) and I think they have a decent chance of winning the division.
    No it's not, the Chargers are easily the best team and they have gone 4-1 without even starting to play their best ball yet, which is scary.
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  23. 10-21-11 07:56 AM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Don't believe me?

    The Raiders just got rid of a very average QB in Jason Campbell and replaced him with a franchise QB.

    To that, they gave him a team with a 4-2 record, Hue Jackson's play-calling, the best kicker, the best punter, the best rb, a good o-line, and fast, big play wr's.

    Good Luck to the rest of the NFL. You're going to need it.
    As a Bengals fan, your fuked. Run the ball. Don't let that sissy throw.
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  24. 10-21-11 07:58 AM #59
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    Playoffs I can see happening. SuperBowl? No. Ravens, Patriots and Steelers will get in their way. Quote me on that at the end of the season if you wish
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  25. 10-21-11 09:30 AM #60
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    Hrm, raiders look good, especially in special teams situations with lechler and janikowski. But I still believe the charghers will win the divisison.
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    Can't wait for the Chiefs to upset these clowns on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    No it's not, the Chargers are easily the best team and they have gone 4-1 without even starting to play their best ball yet, which is scary.
    The chargers are the best? what was their record vs. the Raiders last season? What was every other team in the AFC West record vs. the Raiders last season? What's it this season? Those bi***es ain't nothin but a bunch of zeros.
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  28. 10-21-11 10:41 AM #63
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    IF you wanna go back to last season, WHO was the AFC West playoff team? That's right.

    Now back to this year, your team was looking good, but now it's about to collapse... can't blame Al Davis anymore either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gochiefs View Post
    IF you wanna go back to last season, WHO was the AFC West playoff team? That's right.

    Now back to this year, your team was looking good, but now it's about to collapse... can't blame Al Davis anymore either.
    Please, a chiefs fan?

    What happened to you the last game of the season last year? The Raiders stomped that ass and set you up for a beatdown by the ravens.

    Who was the best team in that division last season? That's the question you should be asking. I'll give you a hint. It wasn't the chiefs, chargers, or broncos.
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  30. 10-21-11 10:51 AM #65
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    Raiders lose Sunday to the Chiefs ......I'll be back
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    Quote Originally Posted by House View Post
    Raiders lose Sunday to the Chiefs ......I'll be back
    If you really believe that then I dare you to put your money on the Chiefs SU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    NO -105 seems golden to me, I can't believe the YES is favored. Yeah, they'll be in the mix for the second wild card but I just don't think they're good enough to get it.
    Yes is juiced because Bodog is a square book and they have this prop up because of Palmer so all the squares can line up and pay the price.

    The limits are I'm sure very low so no one will be able to take advantage of it in a sharp way anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    The chargers are the best? what was their record vs. the Raiders last season? What was every other team in the AFC West record vs. the Raiders last season? What's it this season? Those bi***es ain't nothin but a bunch of zeros.
    Ive never seen so much arrogance from a team that hasnt sniffed the playoffs in what, 8 years? The raiders have been the laughing stock of the league and your bragging they won every game in the division last year? What type of shit team wins every game in the division and misses the playoffs
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    Raiders will win with their defense Sunday...and Raider fans are always the most obnoxious tools at every sportsbook in Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    Ive never seen so much arrogance from a team that hasnt sniffed the playoffs in what, 8 years? The raiders have been the laughing stock of the league and your bragging they won every game in the division last year? What type of shit team wins every game in the division and misses the playoffs
    The team of the decades will be back in the playoffs this year. Will win their division this year. And shit all over your team in the process.
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