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    Jags have no QB and still Favored??

    I dont have much to say about this game, Other than a team being favored with a qb who has only started 7 teams, and threw only 18 passes during the preseason says alot.

    I havnt checked but Im sure alot of money is coming in on tenn. simply cause jags lost their starting qb.

    Makes me lean towards jags even more..

    Any thoughts?

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    Titans win, bet it before the line changes!

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    Jags defence wont be able to handle the titans offence,

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    I liked the Titans ML before the release of Garrard, and still like it. Not sure why the Jags are still favored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    I liked the Titans ML before the release of Garrard, and still like it. Not sure why the Jags are still favored.

    Exactly.

    Not to mention they took the game off the board when that info came out, Re analyzed and still favored jags.. everyone and their mama has to like titans.

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    These are one of those lines that look like FREE MONEY, but we all know vegas dosn't give away FREE MONEY .

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBDOGGN View Post
    These are one of those lines that look like FREE MONEY, but we all know vegas dosn't give away FREE MONEY .
    I might of fell for the trap, but I can't pass up that value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post

    I might of fell for the trap, but I can't pass up that value.

    I still think the line will go down. If you're looking to buy it back, I'd wait as close to game time as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I still think the line will go down. If you're looking to buy it back, I'd wait as close to game time as possible.
    Nah. Titans were my play from the get go.

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    I like tennessee ML and I love them in a teaser. Jags win by 3, that's their best case scenario.

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    titans!

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    I like TENN and the points but it is a toss up in my opinion.

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    The Titans should be a favorite, I don't know either.

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    Gameis def weird...

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    so your strategy is to bet against the public sentiment regardless of circumstances?

    Quote Originally Posted by EBDOGGN View Post
    I dont have much to say about this game, Other than a team being favored with a qb who has only started 7 teams, and threw only 18 passes during the preseason says alot.

    I havnt checked but Im sure alot of money is coming in on tenn. simply cause jags lost their starting qb.

    Makes me lean towards jags even more..

    Any thoughts?

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    Jags do not lose much, if anything by starting McCown instead of Garrard. McCown was in line to take the job Week 2 last year, but tore his ACL. The Jags offense is simple, short passes and MJD. McCown can throw a quick throw and hand it to MJD as well as Garrard (he is a better passer IMO). My question is their O-line. All preseason, no matter the QB, they got hammered. Jags are favored because the both teams are GARBAGE and the game is in Jax. This is a no play. Could be a Tenn rout, could be a Jax rout, could be a game decided by a FG either way.

    If you are into line movement and public percentages, then the Jags are the play. If you are a square and look simply at the starting lineups, then the Titans are the play. I've seen a ton of posts with major units on the Titans. First of all, there isn't a play in the first few weeks that is worth more than a unit or two. What do you base this on??? If anyone bets either side, it should be a small play. If you bet one bets this one large and wins, they should thank their lucky star and don't do it again until week 4 or 5 when we actually know a little about the teams. Second, how can you make a claim for this game being a rout? Second, Matt Hasselbeck is 35 or so, does anyone really expect him to come out and light it up? I certainly don't.

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    jags do not lose much? and how are the titans a garbage team? horrible post dukebluejms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukebluejms View Post
    Jags do not lose much, if anything by starting McCown instead of Garrard. McCown was in line to take the job Week 2 last year, but tore his ACL. The Jags offense is simple, short passes and MJD. McCown can throw a quick throw and hand it to MJD as well as Garrard (he is a better passer IMO). My question is their O-line. All preseason, no matter the QB, they got hammered. Jags are favored because the both teams are GARBAGE and the game is in Jax. This is a no play. Could be a Tenn rout, could be a Jax rout, could be a game decided by a FG either way.

    If you are into line movement and public percentages, then the Jags are the play. If you are a square and look simply at the starting lineups, then the Titans are the play. I've seen a ton of posts with major units on the Titans. First of all, there isn't a play in the first few weeks that is worth more than a unit or two. What do you base this on??? If anyone bets either side, it should be a small play. If you bet one bets this one large and wins, they should thank their lucky star and don't do it again until week 4 or 5 when we actually know a little about the teams. Second, how can you make a claim for this game being a rout? Second, Matt Hasselbeck is 35 or so, does anyone really expect him to come out and light it up? I certainly don't.
    I really liked your post until the 2nd paragraph.
    Hasselbeck is a winning QB. Is he better than Collins? Tough f'n call. I have seen less than 0 outta the Jags in preseason, although, to be fair, I only watched 2 of their games, whilst I saw all 4 Jags games.

    The Jags are in for a bottom 5 season, for certain. I probably wouldn't take the Jags in most games, and that's a team I study hard. The thing you have to think about is veteran leadership - on the Jags right now, it's gone, via the Garrard cut. Del Rio signed his death warrent with Luke. Sure, the guy can play - in the UFL, which I believe he has. But compared to Garrard? REALLY? Garrard is one of the toughest QBs in the league that threw to NOBODY for a LOT of years, save Mercedes, who took a dickload of years to develop.

    I really don't think this team will play for Del Rio right now. I'm almost certain they won't. The Jags have an excellent RB in Drew and a functional OL (and a shite D). Titans are an easy play here, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBDOGGN View Post
    These are one of those lines that look like FREE MONEY, but we all know vegas dosn't give away FREE MONEY .
    Why do you even bet if this is your philosophy? What are you even doing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Why do you even bet if this is your philosophy? What are you even doing here?
    loll very true

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    I like Titans as a sleeper to win their division. I think they win this one. Better weapons on offense... Better defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    Why do you even bet if this is your philosophy? What are you even doing here?


    I suppose your a 19 year old new to this game.. its ok bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by john49ers View Post
    jags do not lose much? and how are the titans a garbage team? horrible post dukebluejms...
    Yes, the Jags do not lose much except for the mobility of Garrard that he rarely ever used and his presence. Garrard was one of the most inconsistent QBs I have ever seen. A pass over 15 yards was out of the question. The loss of Garrard as a good teammate and leader will be a big question. Everyone liked him and it seems a lot of guys are angry he was let go. However, if you watched any of the Jags preseason games (specifically the last 2), you would have seen an offense that would have been hard pressed to score on a college team.

    And okay, maybe garbage was a little harsh to describe the Titans, but they certainly mediocre. The Titans from a year ago come in minus Bo Scaife their veteran TE, their leader of the front 7 Stephen Tullock, their pass rush specialist in Jason Babin, and not to mention a complete overhaul of the coaching staff. Ruud somewhat makes up the loss of Tullock.

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    Jags have no QB? what happened to big blaine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBa1n View Post

    I really liked your post until the 2nd paragraph.
    Hasselbeck is a winning QB. Is he better than Collins? Tough f'n call. I have seen less than 0 outta the Jags in preseason, although, to be fair, I only watched 2 of their games, whilst I saw all 4 Jags games.

    The Jags are in for a bottom 5 season, for certain. I probably wouldn't take the Jags in most games, and that's a team I study hard. The thing you have to think about is veteran leadership - on the Jags right now, it's gone, via the Garrard cut. Del Rio signed his death warrent with Luke. Sure, the guy can play - in the UFL, which I believe he has. But compared to Garrard? REALLY? Garrard is one of the toughest QBs in the league that threw to NOBODY for a LOT of years, save Mercedes, who took a dickload of years to develop.

    I really don't think this team will play for Del Rio right now. I'm almost certain they won't. The Jags have an excellent RB in Drew and a functional OL (and a shite D). Titans are an easy play here, IMO.
    I'm not sure what was inaccurate about the 2nd paragraph, but I agree with you about Del Rio... he's gone. As for veteran leadership, I know where you are coming from as I read up on the Jags a lot as well. However, forget what players and coaches say, how can a veteran leader let his team completely implode down the stretch the last 2 seasons??? Also, I'm not sure I'd say the Jags have a sh1t D, more like they had a sh1t D. This defense is completely different than last, so the jury is still out on that.

    Lastly, Hasselbeck was a winning QB 5 years ago. Last year, Collins: 14 TDs/8 picks, Hasselbeck: 12 TDs/17 picks. I am not naive enough to think these numbers are too comparable as they had different personnel, but Hasselbeck is very injury prone, and he will be sitting behind one of the worst OL's from last year. I could go on comparing the too but its useless...

    There is no doubt the Jags will be fighting to stay out of the basement, but this is just one game, at home, against a mediocre opponent.

    My point of my drunken rant last night was that this game is not a sure thing. There is a reason why the Jags opened as the fav after the game was taken off the board. Home teams week 1 last year 12-4, 5 of these victories were outright wins by dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukebluejms View Post
    Yes, the Jags do not lose much except for the mobility of Garrard that he rarely ever used and his presence. Garrard was one of the most inconsistent QBs I have ever seen. A pass over 15 yards was out of the question. The loss of Garrard as a good teammate and leader will be a big question. Everyone liked him and it seems a lot of guys are angry he was let go. However, if you watched any of the Jags preseason games (specifically the last 2), you would have seen an offense that would have been hard pressed to score on a college team.
    .
    Garrard over the last 3 years has actually been pretty consistent. And a top 15 qb over that time. While he may be inconsistent play to play he is pretty steady at QB.

    I just don't see the Jags moving the ball a ton. MJD may have lost a step and Jennings is out. Who is McCown going to throw to? Lewis and Thomas every time? Jags had a solid interior D-line last year but CJ should still be able to move the ball behind one of the best offensive lines in fball. Titans lost a few players on defense but I don't see the Jags moving the ball a ton. Probably a no play for me but just a few observations.

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    wont it come down to line play?

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    3 units on the Titans for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    I still think the line will go down. If you're looking to buy it back, I'd wait as close to game time as possible.
    It's now official.

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    And it's a middle!!!!

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    Hasselbeck trucked it! Should have went short and give Rob Bironas a shot at another 50-60 yarder.

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    On to the next one.

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