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    There are tons of crypto coins you can deal with (not just Bitcoin) and many of them move faster than Bitcoin does. Many have transactions that occur in seconds rather than hours. Also, from what I've been reading, TokenPay is partnering with Verge to offer Verge ************ that do almost instant fiat > crypto and crypto > fiat. TokenPay has purchased a percentage of a German bank to do this with an option to buy a really big percentage of the bank when/if this takes off. Crypto will be the future. And it can be private as well (even better).

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    Do how long does it take to get money into your account. I used to use quadriga but now my bank doesn't allow me to transfer money to them. It was instant. Now all I'm hearing is it takes 5 to 7 business days

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    What other options are there besides Coinbase? I'm in Canada which doesn't seem to be friendly Coinbase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xraygord View Post
    What other options are there besides Coinbase? I'm in Canada which doesn't seem to be friendly Coinbase.
    quadrigacx.com is supposed to be best for Canadians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    quadrigacx.com is supposed to be best for Canadians
    Thanks, account opened.

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    thank you for posting

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    I think it's actually very good practice

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    I don’t understand how you turn your bitcoin into cash after you withdraw from the sports book into your bitcoin wallet or whatever the bullshit is it’s very confusing

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    Quote Originally Posted by troynewell47 View Post
    I don’t understand how you turn your bitcoin into cash after you withdraw from the sports book into your bitcoin wallet or whatever the bullshit is it’s very confusing
    Exchange -> Wallet -> Sportsbook -> Wallet -> Exchange

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    Quote Originally Posted by troynewell47 View Post
    I don’t understand how you turn your bitcoin into cash after you withdraw from the sports book into your bitcoin wallet or whatever the bullshit is it’s very confusing
    There are a few options.

    An exchanger who will buy it off you for US$ and then send that money to your bank account. Coinbase.com and Gemini.com are common choices.

    A card that can be loaded with bitcoin, which is converted to US$ and available to withdraw at an ATM or spend as card purchases. Bitpay.com is the popular one.

    Person to person exchanges where you do proviate deals to buy/sell direct with other people. Like localbitcoins.com

    Bitcoin ATM machines where you can withdraw cash on the spot. Search google for your local ones.
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    I suppose this is the correct thread to ask my question. I've always used a credit card to deposit at books and is still what I prefer, but have hit a snag the past few days and so am looking to start the digital currency process. First, a little background-- my book of choice is betus. I used the same CC I've used in the past there, and it was declined, three different times. I know that 5D is popular here, so I tried to make a deposit there with the same card, and had the same result. So, one question is: is BkofAma (my bank) more hip to offshore books than they were as recently as a few months ago.
    Now, after these issues, I decided to finally join the crowd and go the digital route. I watched SBR Natalie's video at the beginning of this thread a few times, , and things seemed okay--set up a wallet with blockchain.info, and started an account at coinbase. I was going to buy some bitcoin with my bank account, but before I finalized it I was advised that it takes nine days to become available, and that using a debit card would allow me to have it available instantly. I then used the debit card linked to the bank account, and I got a message that the payment was declined. It is a BkofAma account and I used the same card that I attempted to use at the two books. So another question is-- does BofA not allow digital transactions with their accounts?
    This is the very first time I have ventured into this, so in addition to the two questions I asked, if anyone noticed anything I may have done incorrectly along the way, please advise me. This is seeming like a pain in the ass to me, but maybe it is a bank issue or just something simple. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltgen View Post
    I suppose this is the correct thread to ask my question. I've always used a credit card to deposit at books and is still what I prefer, but have hit a snag the past few days and so am looking to start the digital currency process. First, a little background-- my book of choice is betus. I used the same CC I've used in the past there, and it was declined, three different times. I know that 5D is popular here, so I tried to make a deposit there with the same card, and had the same result. So, one question is: is BkofAma (my bank) more hip to offshore books than they were as recently as a few months ago.
    Now, after these issues, I decided to finally join the crowd and go the digital route. I watched SBR Natalie's video at the beginning of this thread a few times, , and things seemed okay--set up a wallet with blockchain.info, and started an account at coinbase. I was going to buy some bitcoin with my bank account, but before I finalized it I was advised that it takes nine days to become available, and that using a debit card would allow me to have it available instantly. I then used the debit card linked to the bank account, and I got a message that the payment was declined. It is a BkofAma account and I used the same card that I attempted to use at the two books. So another question is-- does BofA not allow digital transactions with their accounts?
    This is the very first time I have ventured into this, so in addition to the two questions I asked, if anyone noticed anything I may have done incorrectly along the way, please advise me. This is seeming like a pain in the ass to me, but maybe it is a bank issue or just something simple. Thanks.
    From what I've read, BkofAma has been hostile to Bitcoin transactions and declining related transactions (at least with CC). One app I like is Square's Cash App. The primary function is to send money back and forth between friends/relatives, but also gives you the option to buy Bitcoin. You link a debit card and load money onto the app and can buy Bitcoin. Their price is about 1.5% above market price.

    In order to withdraw the Bitcoin from the app though, you have to take a picture of your ID (at least when I was verified) and wait 24 hours for verification. Once you get through that, it's pretty much instant to withdraw bitcoin. Only draw back is the app won't accept bitcoin to sell. You can only sell what you have leftover already in the app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltgen View Post
    I suppose this is the correct thread to ask my question. I've always used a credit card to deposit at books and is still what I prefer, but have hit a snag the past few days and so am looking to start the digital currency process. First, a little background-- my book of choice is betus. I used the same CC I've used in the past there, and it was declined, three different times. I know that 5D is popular here, so I tried to make a deposit there with the same card, and had the same result. So, one question is: is BkofAma (my bank) more hip to offshore books than they were as recently as a few months ago.
    Now, after these issues, I decided to finally join the crowd and go the digital route. I watched SBR Natalie's video at the beginning of this thread a few times, , and things seemed okay--set up a wallet with blockchain.info, and started an account at coinbase. I was going to buy some bitcoin with my bank account, but before I finalized it I was advised that it takes nine days to become available, and that using a debit card would allow me to have it available instantly. I then used the debit card linked to the bank account, and I got a message that the payment was declined. It is a BkofAma account and I used the same card that I attempted to use at the two books. So another question is-- does BofA not allow digital transactions with their accounts?
    This is the very first time I have ventured into this, so in addition to the two questions I asked, if anyone noticed anything I may have done incorrectly along the way, please advise me. This is seeming like a pain in the ass to me, but maybe it is a bank issue or just something simple. Thanks.
    There should no reason a debit card is declined at Coinbase. It's only cred cards affected by bank action against bitcoin (their logic was that letting customers use high interest loans to buy speculative bitcoins was bad)

    I would ring BofA and ask them why they wont let you spend your funds at Coinbase as step #1.

    They might have flagged your account to not allow any "high risk transaction codes" in general and just need you to ask.


    Also, with the two books who declined it. That will be to do the payment processor they are using (which may the same one). You may find your card will start working again at those one day.


    Long term, your setup with the blockchain wallet and coinbase sounds right.

    Short term to get funds in quick, that Square Cash App Mrpapageorigio recommends sounds like one the easiest online methods. Otherwise google Bitcoin ATM and go visit one near you and buy bitcoin for cash on the spot.

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    Thanks fellas. I will do as Optional suggested an just ask the bank what's happening. For what it's worth--the transactions that I tried to do with the books and the transaction that I did with Coinbase all went through briefly. I am looking at my bank statement and they were then immediately refunded in my account. Don't know if that signifies anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    There are a few options.

    An exchanger who will buy it off you for US$ and then send that money to your bank account. Coinbase.com and Gemini.com are common choices.

    A card that can be loaded with bitcoin, which is converted to US$ and available to withdraw at an ATM or spend as card purchases. Bitpay.com is the popular one.

    Person to person exchanges where you do proviate deals to buy/sell direct with other people. Like localbitcoins.com

    Bitcoin ATM machines where you can withdraw cash on the spot. Search google for your local ones.
    Which of these would you say is best in terms of fees/cost with a good ease of use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by odog11 View Post

    Which of these would you say is best in terms of fees/cost with a good ease of use?
    I use an exchange like Coinbase (option 1). Most people do, so I'd guess that is considered the most convenient way by most. Fees are reasonable and if you want to use their "pro" service you can avoid the bulk of their fees by selling it on an open trading exchange yourself instead of them doing it for you.

    I think the Bitpay card is a very good option and among the cheaper ways. You just send your bitcoin to it and minutes later the card can be used.

    If that was available in my country I'd use it.

    I dont like P2P exchanges. Too expensive and sketchy.

    Bitcoin ATM machines cost the most by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    There should no reason a debit card is declined at Coinbase. It's only cred cards affected by bank action against bitcoin (their logic was that letting customers use high interest loans to buy speculative bitcoins was bad)

    I would ring BofA and ask them why they wont let you spend your funds at Coinbase as step #1.

    They might have flagged your account to not allow any "high risk transaction codes" in general and just need you to ask.


    Also, with the two books who declined it. That will be to do the payment processor they are using (which may the same one). You may find your card will start working again at those one day.


    Long term, your setup with the blockchain wallet and coinbase sounds right.

    Short term to get funds in quick, that Square Cash App Mrpapageorigio recommends sounds like one the easiest online methods. Otherwise google Bitcoin ATM and go visit one near you and buy bitcoin for cash on the spot.
    BkofAma, Chase, Citi, Cap1, TD--among others-- have actively blocked bitcoin transactions on their cc's for almost a year now, since the price crash. Bank accounts that persist with high volume, through other means, have been shut down. This disease has not been exclusive to US, it's also found in various parts of Europe and Asia.
    Dimon(Chase) and Moynihan(BkofAma), two of the biggest crooks & hypocrites left unscathed from the last bank scandal, have been quoted in the news for eons and ad nauseam slamming bitcoin. The latter banana claims bitcoin obscures bank efforts to detect illegal activity by his customers, priding in his bank being one of the best at detecting illegal activity on behalf of the authorities.

    I'm not providing any new info though-- anyone not hiding under a rock, or in prison: who reads financial news and/or posts in Reddit, Coindesk, Bloomberg, any of their competitors, would know this.

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    As someone who has never dealt in the bitcoin process, if I win bitcoin in an SBR contest, what is the easiest way to convert the BTC to cash? I'm hoping to avoid going through Coinbase since I dont want to avoid involving the banking system.

    I've read the entire thread and found a response from Optional that alludes to a process for possibly doing this (see 2nd to last paragraph below), but I want to make sure I get it right.


    1. I skip the Coinbase.com steps and I set up a bitcoin wallet (e.g. with blockchain.info - the post refers to Mycellium but I assume it is a wallet like blockchain.info except the wallet stores the info on on your phone).
    2. I use that wallet and give the address to SBR so they can pay me the bitcoin I may have won.
    3. I then utilize that mobile Mycellium wallet and visit a bitcoin ATM and make a cash withdrawal. Granted there will be excess fees with this method.


    Is Mycellium the best option for doing this or are their others I should consider.
    Thanks for your help,
    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You have an extra step there Pinoy.

    You do not need to use Both Mycellium and the Bitpay wallet.

    Just withdraw from your book to Mycellium and load the Bitpay card directly from that wallet. No need to ever use the BitPay wallet for anything. And I would not as they have usage charges on it.


    Depositing with Bitcoin, first step is to decide how you want to convert cash to bitcoin. Most people join either Coinbase.com or Gemini.com and link their bank account so they can transfer dollars in and out of the exchange.

    Coinbase/Gemini will convert your cash to bitcoin and once they have you send it your Mycellium wallet. And from there deposit it into your book.


    If you want to keep it super easy and away from your bank account, then do a google search for "bitcoin ATM near me". You just take along your phone, the machine will scan your mycellium wallet receive address, and you then just pay for how much you want.

    This is a bit more expensive than Coinbase/Gemini but leaves you pretty much free of the regualr banking system, if that is your aim.

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    I think you can just use BitPay wallet and then just send it too the BitPay cc which seems to be the easiest way to avoid involving your bank. ( I think that you don’t even have to go to atm with BitPay cc just get cash back are just use the card itself)
    Last edited by 2ndchance; 12-29-18 at 04:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acquavallo View Post
    BkofAma, Chase, Citi, Cap1, TD--among others-- have actively blocked bitcoin transactions on their cc's for almost a year now
    Yes but the poster you are referring to was using a DEBIT card.

    If your BkofAma branch manager starts trying to tell you that you cant spend your cash money in your own bank account anyway you like via a debit card, take the time to report them to head office and have the issue fixed immediately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanko View Post
    As someone who has never dealt in the bitcoin process, if I win bitcoin in an SBR contest, what is the easiest way to convert the BTC to cash? I'm hoping to avoid going through Coinbase since I dont want to avoid involving the banking system.

    I've read the entire thread and found a response from Optional that alludes to a process for possibly doing this (see 2nd to last paragraph below), but I want to make sure I get it right.


    1. I skip the Coinbase.com steps and I set up a bitcoin wallet (e.g. with blockchain.info - the post refers to Mycellium but I assume it is a wallet like blockchain.info except the wallet stores the info on on your phone).
    2. I use that wallet and give the address to SBR so they can pay me the bitcoin I may have won.
    3. I then utilize that mobile Mycellium wallet and visit a bitcoin ATM and make a cash withdrawal. Granted there will be excess fees with this method.


    Is Mycellium the best option for doing this or are their others I should consider.
    Thanks for your help,

    You have it 100% correct.

    Mycellium or Airbitz wallets as apps on your phone is the way to go. Whichever wallet you feel comfortable operating is fine.

    They only take 30 seconds to install. Just try both quickly and delete the one you find less easy to understand. Functionality is pretty much the same.

    Just give SBR a receive address from your wallet to pay to, and it's not much more difficult than scanning a code at the ATM to get your cash from there.

    7-9% will be the loss at an ATM.

    You can maybe save 2/3rds of that by selling person to person at localbitcoins.com but be aware it's like ebay, some scammers around.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndchance View Post
    I think you can just use BitPay wallet and then just send it too the BitPay cc which seems to be the easiest way to avoid involving your bank. ( I think that you don’t even have to go to atm with BitPay cc just get cash back are just use the card itself)
    The reason we advise people not to send from their book directly to the BitPay wallet is that it is against their terms of service to use them to transfer gambling funds.

    And quite frankly it costs less and is more efficient to use ANY OTHER WALLET instead of the BitPay one. It's just not necessary or advantageous in any way.
    Last edited by Optional; 12-30-18 at 01:52 AM.

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    Thanks Opti. Looks like Airbitz is now Edge. I think you can still use the airbitz app but they offer their newer version "Edge" when setting up an account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Fantastic review!

    To the newbies, it probably sounds complicated, but after doing it once or twice you'll wonder why you took so long to get involved.
    I agree and it's worth learning about bitcoin and other cryptos at this moment where the technology is rather new. It's the way of the future.

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    Good video. Once I went Bitcoin I will never go back to ** or **.

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    What is the best wallet to use for the USA player between Coinbase and the Sportsbook now? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purduekev View Post
    What is the best wallet to use for the USA player between Coinbase and the Sportsbook now? Thanks.
    You can use an Electrum wallet

    Or you can use a Blockchain wallet.

    Both pretty easy to use.

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    hello

    Hello, I'm Cris from the USA. Newly joined this forum.
    That is a very good tutorial with video assistance you shared. thanks for sharing it. It is good for newbies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purduekev View Post
    What is the best wallet to use for the USA player between Coinbase and the Sportsbook now? Thanks.
    Coinbase, Blockchain, Sportsbook.
    The fee to send from Blockchain to Sportsbook is a few pennies

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    I'm in another country and I'm having a difficulty time finding a place that allows new accounts. I need a place that I can withdraw to my US bank account but accepts new accounts from Colombia........

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLA View Post
    I'm in another country and I'm having a difficulty time finding a place that allows new accounts. I need a place that I can withdraw to my US bank account but accepts new accounts from Colombia........
    I think independentreserve.com might allow you to do that. It's Australian regulated but you can register from most countries. They charge $20 for a wire to a US$ account and I doubt they care if it's the same country as you, as long as it's in your name. Can't hurt to ask.

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    Can you still purchase bitcoin at the sbr store? I couldn't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Can you still purchase bitcoin at the sbr store? I couldn't find it.
    Yes, if you put "bitcoin" in the store search box you should see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Yes, if you put "bitcoin" in the store search box you should see it.
    It's not working for some reason. I think something is goofy with my account. I can't see any items at the store right now for some reason. If anyone knows how to fix this I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post

    It's not working for some reason. I think something is goofy with my account. I can't see any items at the store right now for some reason. If anyone knows how to fix this I would appreciate it.
    Search works fine here. And no else says it does not work I know of. Do you not see this page? https://store.sportsbookreview.com/search/bitcoin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Search works fine here. And no else says it does not work I know of. Do you not see this page? https://store.sportsbookreview.com/search/bitcoin
    I turned off Adblock and now it works fine. Thanks.
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