1. 03-17-11 06:54 PM #1
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    Gonzaga +1

    my play of the night so you should fade away
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    They are now -1
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    why do you like them
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  4. 03-17-11 06:58 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balco10 View Post
    They are now -1

    not at The Greek... even better for your St. Johns bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMWINNER View Post
    why do you like them
    i'm a lines guy...i don't have a lot of reasons other than i like the way the line has moved... the big bad big east team is going to lose tonight.
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  6. 03-17-11 07:24 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    i'm a lines guy...i don't have a lot of reasons other than i like the way the line has moved... the big bad big east team is going to lose tonight.
    love the zags too, good luck (i sense a ucla vs zaga rematch coming.. hehehehe )
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    Quote Originally Posted by regretz View Post

    love the zags too, good luck (i sense a ucla vs zaga rematch coming.. hehehehe )
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    StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.
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    One of the best players for the johnies is out. That's why the line is what it is. Even so, the wcc is a joke of a conference.
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    I see the Johnnies winning in a rout here...However they will lose in the next round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.
    St Johns beat all those teams with DJ Kennedy, without him do they beat the Zags.
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    SJ IN MSG...win big games.....OUTside the MSG.....

    Zags by 7+......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by somachino1 View Post
    One of the best players for the johnies is out. That's why the line is what it is. Even so, the wcc is a joke of a conference.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinGood View Post
    I see the Johnnies winning in a rout here...However they will lose in the next round.


    i don't care who played who during the year. best of luck fellas...fading me is profitable
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    StJ has beaten Duke, Pitt, W. VA, Notre Dame, 'Nova & UConn!!!!!! Who has Gonzaga beaten; CSU Bakersfield? 'Zags are not strong this year and play a much weaker schedule. Love how StJ gets no respect, and how the Public is on Gonzaga as the line movement indicates. Can't even imagine how Gonzaga can beat StJ. I am all over StJ in this one.

    i'm seeing 50%-50% on sites...where do you see the public backing the Zags?
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    03/17/11 Gonzaga+1 21:50 ET 03/17/11 MichiganSt-1.5 21:20 ET

    Your Total Bet:300.00
    To Win:780.00

    This is what i got on the Zags.

    Other sites have them -1
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    Zags should winn easily, also like K state to pull it out and be ready
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    I'm on Missouri too. +1. feel free to fade away players
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMWINNER View Post
    St Johns beat all those teams with DJ Kennedy, without him do they beat the Zags.
    As they say, there's no "I" in team. Hoops is such a team sport, that when a star player goes down, the others tend to bring their game up to the next level. You see it happen all the time. Championship basketball games are won with D and rebounding, which is all heart, soul, desire, sweat & determination. Expect StJ to be like the NBA ad ...

    "We never give up ... it's all about never giving in ... we never give up ... FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS"
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    i'm seeing 50%-50% on sites...where do you see the public backing the Zags?
    The line opened with StJ at -2, and now it's an even pick'em. Thus, the Public is clearly leaning heavily on Gonzaga. Sites that run contests and/or that track picks, where a couple of hundred guys who are betting 5 bucks, is about as useful as a peehole in the snow. Las Vegas odds, where millions are wagered, etc., is the true story.
    Last edited by 4seasons; 03-17-11 at 08:49 PM.
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    Vegas Oddscovers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=632&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)

    03/14/11 1:14:46 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 3:44:41 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
    03/14/11 4:14:39 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
    03/15/11 9:34:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/16/11 11:44:49 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
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    03/17/11 12:14:37 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 4:54:38 PM 1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 6:54:47 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 8:04:37 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

    covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=639&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
    03/13/11 9:35:07 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 5:35:06 PM -2/-110135.5 -110 (Open)
    03/15/11 11:15:05 AM -1/-110135.5 -110
    03/17/11 2:45:08 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 1:05:06 PM 1/-110135 -110
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    covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=598&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
    03/14/11 10:52:14 AM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 5:02:05 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
    03/14/11 5:32:04 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 9:22:11 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 12:12:05 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 8:22:05 PM 0/-110135.5 -110
    Last edited by 4seasons; 03-17-11 at 08:48 PM.
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    St Johns -1 now from PK on bookmaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by kernssca View Post
    Zags should winn easily, also like K state to pull it out and be ready

    who are these jokers?????????????
    The zags BLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW...
    Id take northwestern or minn vs them if I had to haha ST J is a bonus..........


    Gonzaga is absolute garbage...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    The line opened with StJ at -2, and now it's an even pick'em. Thus, the Public is clearly leaning heavily on Gonzaga. Sites that run contests and/or that track picks, where a couple of hundred guys who are betting 5 bucks, is about as useful as a peehole in the snow. Las Vegas odds, where millions are wagered, etc., is the true story.
    so you're saying line movement is based on public play?
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    Im on both of your plays hopefully everybody else fades and we can pull out a couple w's
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  25. 03-17-11 08:52 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeT View Post
    SJ IN MSG...win big games.....OUTside the MSG.....

    Zags by 7+......

    my thoughts exactly. Kennedy is out and last I saw 68% on stjohn. I see gonzaga making another run this year at least sweet 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    Vegas Oddscovers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=632&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)

    03/14/11 1:14:46 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 3:44:41 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
    03/14/11 4:14:39 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
    03/15/11 9:34:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/16/11 11:44:49 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 9:24:39 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 12:14:37 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 4:54:38 PM 1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 6:54:47 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 8:04:37 PM 0/-110135.5 -110

    covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=639&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
    03/13/11 9:35:07 PM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 5:35:06 PM -2/-110135.5 -110 (Open)
    03/15/11 11:15:05 AM -1/-110135.5 -110
    03/17/11 2:45:08 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 1:05:06 PM 1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 7:05:06 PM 0/-110135 -110

    covers.com/sportsbetting/sbinfodetails.aspx?b=598&vegas=trueOdds (Line)Over/Under (Total)
    03/14/11 10:52:14 AM -2/-110 (Open)OFF
    03/14/11 5:02:05 PM -2/-110135 -110 (Open)
    03/14/11 5:32:04 PM -1.5/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 9:22:11 AM -1/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 12:12:05 PM 0/-110135 -110
    03/17/11 8:22:05 PM 0/-110135.5 -110


    pinnacle opened SJ's -1 Either way, good luck on your bets
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    great 1h...need an equally good 2h
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    so you're saying line movement is based on public play?
    forgive me if I didn't say "sharps"
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    I was surprised Zagas didnt gain some hype from D.J.K. not playing. He was their central figure.
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    Don't see the "focus" with the Storm tonight. Lot of careless turnovers, not taking care of the glass, leaving the middle wide open ... and not getting the calls. Must be like Sir Charles said, Gonzaga, Stockton's son and all, expected to be there, whereas StJ not so much. It was 14-12 when I turned it on, naturally 'Zags ran off like 12 in a row It's like their intimidated, and being totally dominated, nd falling apart
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4seasons View Post
    forgive me if I didn't say "sharps"

    sharp/square whatever.... just b/c the line goes in one direction doesn't mean it's the public play.
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    took it and thanks
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    Zags playing out of their minds tonight. They arent this good, they cant miss a shot if they tried right now.
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    I'm on the Zags

    Hope they keep it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    sharp/square whatever.... just b/c the line goes in one direction doesn't mean it's the public play.
    True; to clarify, when the line moves as too much action comes in on one side, it's that lean to where a majority of the money coming in is going, is what causes the line movement.

    Now since one syndicate can wager a million dollars, while 10,000 Joe Public wager $100, Joe Public isn't necessarily what is propelling the line change. It comes down to the bottom line, the cash amount wagered. If 100,000 like team A, and 1 syndicate like team B, who's right? Who knows? Just following the money/line movement, regardless if it's a one million dollar wager, or 10,000 $100 ones.
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