[I'mAWinner]

i all, it's VR again ! Hope all's good, with no play yesterday I'm looking forward to todays action.
Before we jump into todays play I must say something.
It was brought to my attention that there's ONE individual who stated that my record is false. 54-27 ats. It was also stated by this person that I'm baiting all of you, because when MLB starts I'll become a TOUT !
Well this past Saturday there was OVER 3000 viewers, and if ONE person is going against me well thats not to bad, Here's the best part of all of this, I got a message from one of you thanking me because this person was able to pay his rent !!!!! He made over $2,000.00 over his last few plays.
Thats Awsome !

Southern Illinois @ Wichita State -14 ( hook )
Wichita St. is the class of the "Missouri Valley Conference", the Shockers have FOUR loses, two of them were in November, Uconn and San Diego St. WSU plays an great "Inside/Outside" offense. 76 ppg at home the Shockers are scoring, 48% FG. There assists / turnover ratio is great, 2/1 not many teams in D1 basketball can say that. This team play 10 players, 5 game winning streak. There RPI ranking is in the top 40, bottom line Wichita St is a very good basketball team with.

As for Southern Illinois, in my opinion there playing Wichita State at a bad time. There starting point guard Mykel Cleveland #3 is OUT, There starting center Gene Teague #21 is OUT, a bench player Troy Long #11 is OUT, and Justin Bocot #23 there first player off the bench is OUT.

Four Players for Southern Illinois, Two starters are out. The Salukis are dressing 8 players !
Playing the worst team in the league this would be a problem BUT, So.Illi are playing 1st place Wichita State !
Besides those problems So.Illi have lost 5 straight, on the road there scoring 57 ppg compared to 76 which the Shockers score. 366 turnovers this season compared to 277 assists that is not winning basketball.
Wichita State has one of the GREATEST Home courts this season.

Wichita State -14 (hook)
54-27 ats
0-0 week
Good luck tonite.

[hkssupra69]

are you buying 2 pts on this? I dont see any book that has it at 14

[I'mAWinner]

Leans,
Plays that didn't make the cut,

George Mason -9
San Diego St -17
Georgia -4

[I'mAWinner]

are you buying 2 pts on this? I dont see any book that has it at 14

Yes, just to bring it down alittle.

[BigDofBA]

My book has Wichita State at -16.

[I'mAWinner]

are you buying 2 pts on this? I dont see any book that has it at 14

If you don't know, HOOK means buy points.

[ShogunRua]

Hrmmm...its -16 at my book. Still worth it? Gonna juice me to -150 to get to -14.

[ClimbSomeRocks]

how much are you paying for -14 and where?

The line is set at 16 in all 3 of the books I have money in. Cheapest price is -155 to buy it down to -14, that seems like a lot of juice to lay on a double digit favorite.

[TheRagingBull]

Hey Winner - Can only get 15.5, thoughts??

[I'mAWinner]

Guy's I wrote ( HOOK ), that means buying points !!!!!!

[PP]

gonna buy down lets do this

[I'mAWinner]

how much are you paying for -14 and where?

The line is set at 16 in all 3 of the books I have money in. Cheapest price is -155 to buy it down to -14, that seems like a lot of juice to lay on a double digit favorite.

Play it at 16 then !

[WVUsuperfan]

Winner do you think it is worth a shot to take at 16? or should I buy the hook?

NEVERMIND YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOVE

[I'mAWinner]

-110 or -150, that doesn't make no-difference to me.

[LockPickMaster]

Winner, what do you have Wichita St winning by?

[I'mAWinner]

Winner, what do you have Wichita St winning by?

19-23 points, maybe more because of the problems at So.Illinois

8 more baskets equals 16 points. WSU is atleast 10 better tonight.

[hkssupra69]

Hey winner, can you explain your philosophy on why it doesn't make a difference? I want to know your reasoning for this to help me decide if i want to take this bet or not

-110 or -150, that doesn't make no-difference to me.

[BigDofBA]

19-23 points, maybe more because of the problems at So.Illinois 8 more baskets equals 16 points. WSU is atleast 10 better tonight.

I have a question.

If you have Wichita State winning by 19-23 and the line is -16, why would you bye 2 points??? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm just curious. As always I appreciate the picks.

[PP]

Insurance buffer, never know when that backdoor could hit

[DirkDiggs]

I've always though buying the hook, means buying a half point?

[I'mAWinner]

I have a question.

If you have Wichita State winning by 19-23 and the line is -16, why would you bye 2 points??? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm just curious. As always I appreciate the picks.

Just to be safe, "BACKDOOR" ! I don't want to sound like a jerk, or like I know everthing but to be 100% honest, I just want to be safe, I feel 14 is an very easy number. Good luck, I know your not being wise ass !!!

[PP]

Same here Dirk, guess it has multiple definitions

[I'mAWinner]

I've always though buying the hook, means buying a half point?

so did I ! But I've noticed in the past it doesn't. I guess.

[soonerstud7804]

got it @ the 14 thx winner....also got the Purdue well c...thx again...

[mrmann1]

-9 first half, you'd stay away?

[Ketch]

what is your $$ amount bet on game buying 3 pts?

[jimmyg2727]

I've always though buying the hook, means buying a half point?

You are right... Buying the hook means the .5 point.

[joekane88]

I am not a hater, but you have to be called out

Hook means 1/2 a point NOT 2 Points, 1st off, anyone gambling should know that

2nd, how is -110 and - 150 no difference to you ?????? unles your betting peanuts that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, about 50 cents on the dollar, and buying points is bad gambling in the long run. That is some horrible advice you are relaying here

[tcarn01]

This is a great thread... My only problem is that I am on WSU tonight. I hope this thread is not a JINxxx.. Usually stay away from games people have no idea what they are doing in them. Hook = .5. Buying points = Buying points. And there is a huge difference between -110 and -150. WTF man....

[I'mAWinner]

I am not a hater, but you have to be called out

Hook means 1/2 a point NOT 2 Points, 1st off, anyone gambling should know that

2nd, how is -110 and - 150 no difference to you ?????? unles your betting peanuts that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, about 50 cents on the dollar, and buying points is bad gambling in the long run. That is some horrible advice you are relaying here

+123 units, that why !

[zephyr]

It's a good play at -16.

[southpaw74]

Yes, a hook is only .5 point! buying 2 points means buying 2 points. And paying all that juice...like playing moneyline favorites without a parlay is a loser over time. Like going 6-3 on moneylines but the juice you paid for the 3 losers can completely offset the profit of the 6 you win. If you happen to win this game then it won't matter but if you lose then you lose a whole lot more than if you played it at -110. I'm just saying what it really means...not saying you can't do it! Good luck

[Squareguy]

He's saying that the juice doesn't matter, because he's THAT confident in the win.

If someone wanted to bet that their high school football team would beat the Greenbay Packers, would you care if the line was -110, or -210? Would you care if it was -500? No, because you know you are going to win.

The play tonight is a good one at -16, and a great one at -14. That's all he's saying.

[I'mAWinner]

I am not a hater, but you have to be called out

Hook means 1/2 a point NOT 2 Points, 1st off, anyone gambling should know that

2nd, how is -110 and - 150 no difference to you ?????? unles your betting peanuts that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, about 50 cents on the dollar, and buying points is bad gambling in the long run. That is some horrible advice you are relaying here

All you people are 100 % right, I have zero idea that I have no-idea whats going on. NONE !

In Vegas the Hook is buying points, .05 to 3 points.

Everyone of you look to make trouble with me everyday, but not one of you post your LOSING record, NONE of you.

[BigDofBA]

I always thought buying the hook was buying 1/2 point to but I didn't want to sound like an idiot. I had no idea it could mean buying multiple points.

Anyway, I like the pick even at -16. Wichita State beat a healthier So. Illinois by double digits at their place a month ago. Southern Illinois isn't any good and Wichita State is.

We've been pounded by snow here in Oklahoma the past week and we're supposed to get another 8-12 inches tonight. I wonder if the snow will effect Wichita as well. This could be a factor with the crowd.

Wichita State small for me tonight. Good luck winner.