[clc49]

I understand that Detroit is better at home than they are on the road (8-4 vs 5-8) but Cleveland State is a quality team (21-4)... yes they are better at home but they are not bad on the road either (Home 13-1 Away 8-3)

Cleveland State: Losses --> @West Virginia, @Butler, @ Valpo Home vs. Butler....

In an earlier match up this season: Cleveland State 81 Detroit 69 @ Cleveland State

Detroit gives up a ton of points (71.4 on the season) (73.46 in conference this year)

Cleveland State gives up 61.0 on the season (62.62 in conference) while averaging 71.0 on the season and 71.0 in conference.... therefore Cleveland State on an average night should put up 71 points on Detroit... Cleveland State is 12-0 when they score 71 or higher...

Rebounding advantage: Slight advantage to Detroit, but it should be pretty close, Eli Holman from Detroit had a huge game against Cleveland State last time out 16 pts 14 rebounds...

The last time they played Cleveland State went 7/17 (average 6.68/game) from behind the arc whereas Detroit went 4/11 (average 4.92/game) ... Teams are averaging 6.96 3 pointers/game against Detroit.... Whereas teams average 4.8 against Cleveland State.... That being said both teams played roughly to their average in their previous game

Detroit is averaging 16.44 turnovers a game... Detroit forces 15.16 turnovers/game; Cleveland State is averaging 12.36.... Cleveland State forces 15.36 turnovers per game I expect this game to go up and down and this could be a big difference maker... and additional 4 possessions a game is huge

Conclusion: I like Cleveland State to cover the 2 points despite it being at Detroit, I believe the Cleveland State is the better team and has played better competition... they also happen to be coming off of a loss to Butler...

The difference in this game will be Cleveland States ability to shoot the three as well as their ability to force turnovers

If this game gets into the 70s I believe Cleveland State will win by roughly 6

Prediction: Cleveland State 76 Detroit 70

What does everyone think?

[Romanov]

I'm on the Cleveland St ML. I think there is good value comparing the ML to my analysis. Its a really big play for me.

[Crayzee]

small road fave is a death wish
detroit or pass

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

I'm on Detroit ML.

[Romanov]

small road fave is a death wish detroit or pass

Those who bet by "rules" should not bet

[3GCOVERAGE]

Cleveland st. for me I like the write up. Detroit plays sloppy basketball and turns the ball over way too much.

[clc49]

I feel like the majority of people on here are taking detroit.... this may be one I lay off...sbr has put some doubt in my pick

[LockPickMaster]

You got a team in CSU that is only getting -2 with their record. Something fishy with this line.

[clc49]

agreed but i can see them winning and covering just as easy

[Hoja Verdes]

You got a team in CSU that is only getting -2 with their record. Something fishy with this line.

I used to think like that. But sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Example: yesterday Ohio State, undefeated #1 team in the nation is giving 4.5 to Minnesota...line should have been about 7.5.

Sure, there are plenty of examples to the contrary as well, but I would advise getting past the 'fishiness' of lines and just realize that in a game like this, homecourt advantage is huge, and that's why Cleve State is only favored by 2. Once again, I'd argue that a more accurate line should have been CS -4. Therefore, I'm betting them at -2.

[Power Play]

Cleveland State is much better bottom line. Detroit at home has suffered some bad blowout losses and have a tendency of not covering in general this season when they were the "sharp" play. Have to take Cleveland State imo.

[BiffTFinancial]

i like CSU to cover, but like the over much more. i'm a little concerned that CSU might experience a slight letdown after Butler Saturday, but Waters doesn't usually allow his teams to let down. i think that it's CSU by 3-5, say, 78-74. BOL with your play, i'm a CSU fan so i'll definitely be pulling for you.

[kufan11]

Cleveland St. doesnt **** around with shit teams like Detroit, im guessing a blow out. They got alot to play for. contending for 1st place. To all you who would like to take a 500 team to beat the best in the conference GL.

[justwinthisone]

cle st by 6

[iMxth3xbossx5000]

Cleveland State puts up a ton of points and can score quickly and efficiently.. I really don't see how they can lose this game.. They are a quality team as previously mentioned by someone else. They should win

[N.O.S.]

Cleveland State puts up a ton of points and can score quickly and efficiently.. I really don't see how they can lose this game.. They are a quality team as previously mentioned by someone else. They should win

They're not as good as you think; pathetic Butler that lost to lowly YSU team in previous game destroyed Vikings on there home floor few days later. Detroit is a play tonight.

[Hoja Verdes]

They're not as good as you think; pathetic Butler that lost to lowly YSU team in previous game destroyed Vikings on there home floor few days later. Detroit is a play tonight.

That angle makes sense as well.

I feel like I should take this opportunity to tell everyone that if you're playing Cleveland State like I am, so be it. But a short home dog like Detroit tonight wins more often than it loses. So whatever your play is, keep it reasonable and don't be the least bit surprised if there's an upset. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

[Romanov]

According to my shit, the line should be 5.5, pardon I meant my sheet

[TPowell]

Detroit had 19 offensive rebounds in the first game. Detroit turned it over 19 times and shot like 50% from the foul line which is what lost them the game, CSU also shot 50% from the field

[MUHerd37]

So some of you want to take Detroit because Cleveland St. lost to Butler? Well then why not take Cleveland St. because Detroit has lost to Akron (13-10), Western Michigan (12-9), Bradley (8-16), and Wisconsin Milwaukee X2 (13-11) and some others. Cleveland St. just lost at home to Butler by 12 at home but Detroit lost at home to butler by 23. Honestly, I don't care too much about how Cleveland St. did against Butler and how Detroit did against Butler and then compare the teams that way. It's more about matchups and Cleveland St. is just the better team.

[MUHerd37]

Congrats to you Detroit backers. You were on the right side tonight.

[LockPickMaster]

Only took Detroit because the Det coach was trying to cut down on turnovers in the last few games and Det had the rebounding edge.

[Snowball]

[COLOR=#000000! important]refs were on Detroit...others think so too. very biased officiating.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/conver...meId=310382174[/COLOR]

[TPowell]

Detroit turned the ball over 8 less times than the previous game and shot the ball nearly 20% better from the field, still won the rebounding battle as expected

[sweethook]

wow detroit