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    Goallines Streak breaker thread,,,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    2009 past year streaks


    Did this last year,,,,,a chase system some what,,, play against the team with a win or loss streak of 4 and chase only twice,,,,

    last year teams with a win streak of 4 lost their next game ( 90-67)and the ones that went 5-0 Lost their next game ( 42-25),, ,,so if you are a patient gambler and wait till they reach 5 win streaks,, your win percentage rises drastically ( 132-25)

    Pushes do not stop streaks

    i did this last year at 2 streaks thru 7 to experience the year

    the first team last year to lose a large win streak was Syracuse at a win streak of 5 wins and lost

    New Mexico actually went to a 7 game win streak and lost on 12/9/09

    Stanford actually went to a 7 game win streak also and finally lost on 1/9/10

    St Marys actually went on a 8 game win streak and then lost on 12-23-09

    COC did the same and finally lost 01/25/10

    Texas actually went on a 0-8 losing streak before winning on feb 1st,2010

    N Iowa had the longest win streak per my records at 9 wins in a row and finally lost on
    01/12/10

    tenn martin had the longest losing streak at 13 of all teams ,, if my records are correct the finally won on 01/30-10,, i know i lost some counting on them to win

    Rutgers and Memphis weren't far behind Tenn Martin at 9 losing streaks
    ________________________________________ ______________
    longest losing streak tenn martin,,13,,,next losing streak,,Memphis and Rutgers at 9,,, next Stanford at 7,,,next ,,Elon,S fra,,SMU,Ohio St,Penn,ALR,,Utep,ohio,,Boise all at 6 loses,, before winning
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    17 teams on a win streak at 6 lost and could go no farther

    longest win streak,,,n Iowa,,9,,Next,,St Marys,,and Col of Charlston at 8,,

    thats all the back up i have as at end of feb i started to focus on March Maddness

    Being highly focused on RLM plays i don't know how long i may stay with this streak breaker system but i will try and fade streaks at 5 thru 6

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    I have a lot of back up for year 2009,as i was deeply involved,,,,,in these streak plays
    from Jan 1st 2009 to Jan 25th 2009 this is what i had compiled

    0-3 loss streaks went,,,60-42
    0-4 loss streaks went,,,23-19
    0-5 loss streaks went,,,10-9
    0-6 loss streaks went,,,4-5
    0-7 loss streaks went,,,3-2
    0-8 loss streaks went,,,1-1
    0-9 loss streaks went,,,0-1
    0-13 loss streaks went 1-0,,

    Win Streaks 0-1-09 thru 01-25-09

    3-0 win streaks went,,,38-42
    4-0 win streaks went,,,17-25
    5-0 win streaks went,,,12-13
    6-0 win streaks went,,,8-5
    7-0 win streaks went,,,3-2
    8-0 win streaks went,,,1-1
    9-0 win streaks went,,,1-0
    no streak reached 10

    this is what i found from last year for January,,,will be interesting to see how they play out this year
    this was all done by myself manually so if i have a wrong # some where ,, please excuse as it was my first year

    i am more interested in seeing how these play out this year,,,,for my 2nd attempt

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    correction,, play at 4 not 5

    last year teams with a win streak of 4 lost their next game ( 90-67)and the ones that went 5-0 Lost their next game ( 42-25),, ,,so if you are a patient gambler and wait till they reach 4 win streaks,, your win percentage rises drastically ( 132-25)

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    Nice stuff here goalline bob....so you would wait for either 4 ATS wins / Losses in a row and then go opposite the trend?

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    I'll bet this could have similar results in NBA, NCAAF, NFL, and maybe MLB RL's??

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    By the way, what is a free place to check ATS streaks quickly? I have looked at Covers, PreGame, VegasInsider and can't find anything like that ....

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    Not posting at "blankets" any more Bob? I remember reading this over there last year.

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    yeaa not at blankets anymore,,,,,

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    i tried it in NBA but did not work out well,,,,but i forget all the tangibles,,, and the ncaaf was so involved i could not find time to follow it correctly,,,,

    yes you start when a team has 4 wins or loses and double your wager if lost at 4

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    correction


    yes you start when a team has 4 wins or loses and double your wager if lose at 5

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    we also did it on totals,, in all sports,,,,,,,,,,NHL,,NBA,,NCAAB,,,,,I would have to go back to blankets and resurrect all back up

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    various individuals took over a section of responsibility and posted findings and they all went very well,,,,,,,

    trying to remember all the approaches,, thinking maybe not totals but just win/ loss streaks of all sports,,,
    totals would be difficult,,,

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    we even broke it down into Majors,, mid Majors,, etc from 2008

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    tried to resurrect past at blankets but could only go back to may of this year,,,,,,,

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    maybe we can put a group together here in SBR

    someone to monitor NHL,NBA, etc

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    todays NBA win loss streaks( picked these up at covers

    701 UTAH,,,,,,,,W2 W1
    702 ORL ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, W4 L3
    703 MIL* ,,,,,,,,W1 W1
    704 ATL* ,,,,,,,, L2 W1
    705 CHAR* ,,,,,,,L3,P1
    706 TOR* ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,L 5,,L2
    707 HOU ,,,,,,,,,W1 W2
    708 WAS,,,,,,,,,, L2 L3
    709 NJ* ,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. L5 L1
    710 CLE* ,,,,,,,, W3 W3
    711 GS,,,,,,,,.... W1 W1
    712 NY ,,,,,,,,,., L2 L2
    713 DAL* ,,....,. W1 L2
    714 MEM* ,,,,,,,W2 W3
    715 PHI ,.........,W1 W1
    716 OKC,,,,,,,,,, L1 L1
    717 LAC* , ,,,,,,,L3 L1
    718 SA* ,,,,,,,,,, W4 P1
    719 MIN* ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, L6 W1
    720,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, L2 L3

    i now remember it wasn't totals it was Over Unders,, fade any 4 streaks to either side in all sports

    Lets watch these plays for a few days and record what occurs

    once Ncaab starts i def will not have any time to do this,,,maybe we can get some guys to take a certain group,,,,


    Dallas game has a total 7 Under streak running,,over is due
    GS and NY has a total 6 under streak running,over is over
    Char/ Tor have a 5 under streak running,, over is due
    Milw/Atla have a 4 under streak running ,, over is due

    lets see how these play out

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    we did this in NHL also,,,

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    if you go to covers sports and click on print sheets for that days plays you will get all W/L and O/U streaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolmscheid View Post
    Nice stuff here goalline bob....so you would wait for either 4 ATS wins / Losses in a row and then go opposite the trend?
    Not sure if this was ever answered ... is it 4 or 5 wins ATS or SU ??

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    NHL


    Gm# Team W/L O/U
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    51 BUF,,,,,, W1 U2
    52 NJ ,,,,,,,, L1 U1
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    53 BOS,,,,,,, L2 U1
    54 PIT ,,,,,,,,W1 O1
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    55 STL ,,,,,, W7 U3,,, due to lose and over is due
    56 CLB ,,,,,,, L1 U3
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    57 TOR ,,,,,,L6 U2,,,,Tor due to win
    58 FLA ,,,,,,, L1 U1
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    59 PHO ,,,,,,L3 U1
    60 CHI ,,,,,,, L1 U1
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    61 NYI ,,,,,,, L7, U2....NYI due to cover
    62 ANA ,,,,,, W4 U1
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    you start at 4 and if lose double once to 5 and if lose move on and accept the 2 loses,,,if you start small ( depends on your bankroll)you could push to 6 as in most cases not many got beyond 6,, but most ended after 4

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    4 SU wins in a row .. or 4 ATS wins in a row .. big difference?

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    what i suggest you track the first few (as all this requires 4 wins or loses) so you will already be into a good months of plays till some team reaches that plateau,,or play small,,,, the crappier the teams you will get the feel if worth the wager or not,,,,

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    4 ats,, as were playing win or loss streaks

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    I'm still confused bob...you wait for 4 straight up losses or wins and then bet opposite ATS????? Or do you have to wait for 4 ats losses / wins and bet opposite?????

    If we must wait for 4 straight ats wins / losses, where can I find streaks like that? I can find straight up streaks but not ats streaks!

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    i always used covers ats stats,,,in ncaab
    they show rankings # and record ATS

    example,,,,tenn martin,, went back a pulled up Tenn martins stats last year against the spread,,,,,

    02/04/10 Austin Peay L 69-74 Regular Season W 8.5
    01/30/10 Murray St. L 45-77 Regular Season L 17.5
    01/25/10 SIU - Edwardsville W 68-52 Regular Season
    01/23/10 @ Eastern Illinois L 46-60 Regular Season L 10.5
    01/21/10 @ SE Missouri St. L 63-77 Regular Season L 2
    01/16/10 Jacksonville St. L 63-73 Regular Season L 2
    01/14/10 Tennessee Tech L 63-76 Regular Season L 2
    01/09/10 @ Tennessee St. L 59-73 Regular Season L 6
    01/07/10 @ Austin Peay L 72-90 Regular Season L 14.5
    01/04/10 @ Murray St. L 59-83 Regular Season L 21
    12/30/09 Westminster W 71-59 Regular Season - -
    12/22/09 @ Florida St. L 68-95 Regular Season L 25
    12/19/09 @ Evansville L 63-84 Regular Season L 12
    12/12/09 Central Arkansas L 71-81 Regular Season - -
    12/09/09 @ Missouri St. L 51-79 Regular Season L 15.5
    12/05/09 Eastern Kentucky L 74-85 Regular Season L 3.5
    12/03/09 Morehead St. L 66-74 Regular Season L 2.5
    11/25/09 @ Arkansas St. L 66-80 Regular Season L 10 - -

    you can see their 1st streak loss on 11/25/09,,, and did not win again till,,,02/04/10,,was 14 losses in a row not 13

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    But Covers doesn't show what their ATS streak is do they?

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    covers ats rankings( if you go to covers and review 2009 you will find what i just posted)

    Ranking,,,,,,,,,,, team,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ats,,,,,,,,,,,W/L

    # 333 Tenn-Martin 4-20-1 4-25 ,,,,,they ranked last for all teams in 2009

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    That is fine I see that......I am asking where can I find current ATS streaks....there are sites that show their ATS records, but to use your system, we need to find a site that shows their last 4 ATS games....

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    yes they do( Tenn Martin was the worst team in ncaaf year 2009,, ATS

    Ranking,,,,,,,,,,team,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ATS wins,,,,,W/L
    333 ,,,,,,,Tenn-Martin,, 4-20-1 4-25

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    But aren't we looking to do it THIS YEAR Bob?

    Where on the site can we see what teams THIS YEAR have done the last 4 Games????? Your system says to play AGAINST teams that have won / lost their last 4 games ATS right?? So where can we see it for right now? Like if we want to see how the NBA teams right now how they have done their last 4 games....

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    Ats rankings currently


    ATS Records currently for year 2010,, all you need do is follow this post in covers and if you see a 4 win streak play the opposite( if they win SU or ATS it does not matter ) its still a win strak
    Team ,,,,,,,,,,ATS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    1 Maryland,,,, 1-0-0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    2 Texas,,,,,,,, 1-0-0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    3 Rhode Id,,,, 1-0-0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    4 UC Irvine,,, 1-0-0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    5 Navy,,,,,,,, 0-1-0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    6 Seattle 0-1-0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    7 Illinois 0-1-0 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    8 Pittsburgh 0-1-0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    go to covers and look for ats rankings for NBA

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    Ok so it doesn't matter if it is 4 SU wins or ATS wins???

    I just want to make sure that I am getting this right.....

    So I am looking for 4 straight ATS wins / losses or Overs / Unders and bet OPPOSITE right??

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    nba at covers

    NBA ATS Records
    Team ATS W/L O/U For Agst. Marg.
    1 New Orleans 7-0-0 7-0 1-6 98.0 90.1 7.9
    2 Golden State 5-2-0 5-2 2-5 104.3 102.4 1.9
    3 New York 4-2-1 3-4 2-5 100.3 102.0 -1.7
    4 Detroit 5-3-0 2-6 4-4 92.6 99.6 -7.0
    5 Memphis 5-3-0 4-4 4-4 105.6 106.2 -0.6
    6 L.A. Lakers 5-3-0 8-0 5-3 112.1 99.6 12.5
    7 Portland 5-3-1 6-3 3-6 99.0 94.6 4.4
    8 Chicago 3-2-1 3-3 4-2 102.8 102.8 0.0
    9 Philadelphia 4-3-0 2-5 3-4 101.7 101.4 0.3
    10 San Antonio 3-2-1 5-1 3-3 106.7 103.0 3.7
    11 Cleveland 4-3-0 4-3 3-4 98.7 100.6 -1.9
    12 Atlanta 4-4-0 6-2 4-4 104.0 98.4 5.6
    13 Indiana 3-3-0 3-3 3-3 103.5 102.8 0.7
    14 Houston 3-3-0 1-5 3-3 112.0 112.7 -0.7
    15 Boston 4-4-0 6-2 4-4 97.9 92.6 5.2
    16 Dallas 3-3-0 4-2 1-5 95.5 91.8 3.7
    17 Miami 4-4-0 5-3 4-4 101.4 90.1 11.2
    18 Milwaukee 4-4-0 3-5 2-6 91.8 91.4 0.4
    19 Denver 3-4-1 4-4 2-6 104.0 102.4 1.6
    20 Utah 3-4-0 4-3 4-3 104.3 104.7 -0.4
    21 Toronto 3-4-0 1-6 2-5 99.9 104.1 -4.3
    22 New Jersey 3-4-0 2-5 3-3 91.1 97.6 -6.4
    23 Charlotte 2-4-1 1-6 4-3 89.9 95.6 -5.7
    24 Orlando 2-4-0 5-1 2-3 99.8 88.7 11.2
    25 Oklahoma City 2-4-0 3-3 5-1 98.7 104.0 -5.3
    26 L.A. Clippers 3-5-0 1-7 3-5 93.8 102.0 -8.2
    27 Sacramento 2-4-0 3-3 5-1 104.3 107.7 -3.3
    28 Phoenix 2-5-0 3-4 4-3 108.3 109.6 -1.3
    29 Washington 1-4-0 1-4 3-2 97.4 109.0 -11.6
    30 Minnesota 2-6-0 1-7 4-4 96.9 112.5 -15.6

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