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    Colorado +8.5 and +320

    Taking the Buffs at home. Arizona State got off to a great start and shot up the rankings but they finally lost the other night. Tonight they may very well drop another in what should be a fairly hostile environment.

    2 units on the spread. 1/2 unit on the ML.

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    Best of luck T-wiz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Best of luck T-wiz
    You too

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    I think this is a really bad matchup for Colorado.

    -Freshman PG has to guard senior ASU guards all night.
    -ASU shoots the 3 ball well (top 50 3pt %) while Colorado defends the perimeter poorly (#176 opponent 3pt %, #193 opponent pts from 3)
    -ASU turnover margin +4.7, CU turnover margin -2.4
    -ASU already won in Lawrence and played a close game in Tucson so not afraid of the road game.
    -Still break for students so doubt student section is in play
    -Sun Devils been training with those oxygen limiting masks to prep for high altitude
    -ASU gets F Lawrence back tonight, he was good overseas last summer and in exhibition games before injury, and adds needed depth & height

    Nothing pointing to Colorado here.
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    Buffs are bad TDubb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake24 View Post
    Buffs are bad TDubb!
    I know but it’s not a great spot for ASU.

    The line went up so this looks like a loss.

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    I watch a TON of PAC 12 hoops and I’m struggling to see your angle with the Buffs here. I saw them get slaughtered by an average San Diego squad at home and was really unimpressed with their toughness..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDF500 View Post
    I watch a TON of PAC 12 hoops and I’m struggling to see your angle with the Buffs here. I saw them get slaughtered by an average San Diego squad at home and was really unimpressed with their toughness..
    Did you think ASU was a top 5 team before the season? Of course not. They’re due for some regression. I think they’re good but I don’t like the spot for them here.

    Now having said that, I got a bad line and don’t like the movement but I’m already locked in.

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    Buffs are not that good. But.... CU is a tough place to play.

    Altitude and very rood fans

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    Tight game.

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    You got it. Nice job!

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    Let's get this to the finish line!

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    Wow. Overtime

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    OT. Any chance for a sick-beat? I don't really think so.

    Sun Devils still a little winded from Ariz game.

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    Colorado still looking solid. ASU looks beat. Throwing up prayers.

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    Hell of a win Twizzler!

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    We’re good. Shout out to Dom Toretto for giving us the breakdown and hard-hitting analysis with all the different stats.

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    You can here the Colorado fans. They are brutal

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyb25 View Post
    Hell of a win Twizzler!
    Thanks B!

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    I had every opportunity to get +14 and a monster number on money line after Buffs slow start. Can only blame myself for not doing it.

    Great win!

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    Nice hit - is college ball just a toss up this year more so than in the past? ASU as the 4th ranked team and they get smacked by a bad CU team. Hilarious

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    That is how you do it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    We’re good. Shout out to Dom Toretto for giving us the breakdown and hard-hitting analysis with all the different stats.
    I brought the matchup stats to the thread cuz you sure didn’t. If you knew all those stats yet saw something that outweighed all that, then you certainly didn’t share it. But knowledge isn’t your thing so I doubt you could’ve named more than 1 player on either team. I’m not losing sleep over 1x loss, even if I think a play is +EV shit happens and nothing’s guaranteed. CU played its best game and ASU its worst game of the season so they defied many of the stats.

    Anyways congrats on hitting the ml, it was great ml odds to have going into a coin flip OT. I’m sure you will use this win to pump your chest for several weeks. Enjoy.

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    Nice win here wizzle
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    Sports are not about stats

    Any money maker does not know many players

    It is a numbers game only

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM_Toretto View Post
    I brought the matchup stats to the thread cuz you sure didn’t. If you knew all those stats yet saw something that outweighed all that, then you certainly didn’t share it. But knowledge isn’t your thing so I doubt you could’ve named more than 1 player on either team. I’m not losing sleep over 1x loss, even if I think a play is +EV shit happens and nothing’s guaranteed. CU played its best game and ASU its worst game of the season so they defied many of the stats.

    Anyways congrats on hitting the ml, it was great ml odds to have going into a coin flip OT. I’m sure you will use this win to pump your chest for several weeks. Enjoy.
    No I just laugh at guys like you who try to outcap the books as if all those things you listed weren’t already factored into the line.

    And that’s funny you say I don’t know the players. You are so naive, guy. You’ve got over 100 plays on the year with all the research you’ve done and nothing to show for it. Meanwhile I post a play here or there and have been easily hitting at a clip of upwards of 60%. Probably closer to 70%. And that’s with taking moneyline dogs as opposed to enormous moneyline faves like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Sports are not about stats

    Any money maker does not know many players

    It is a numbers game only
    Jj so many guys here think they can outsmart the books by handicapping these games. You think Vegas doesn’t factor all these stats into the line?

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    Good call. Especially ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Jj so many guys here think they can outsmart the books by handicapping these games. You think Vegas doesn’t factor all these stats into the line?
    Nice win, here. Of course, I played Temple spread and sprinkled m/l, while Co and Tulane win s/u.

    I do try to outsmart the books as well, but only bc I think it's a fun hobby. Sincerely doubt I'll ever get rich doing this. Even if I was crushing books, I don't wager enough to make much of a difference in my life financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teecee View Post
    Nice win, here. Of course, I played Temple spread and sprinkled m/l, while Co and Tulane wi s/u.

    I do try to outsmart the books as well, but only bc I think it's a fun hobby. Sincerely doubt I'll ever get rich doing this. Even if I was crushing books, I don't wager enough to make much of a difference in my life financially.
    You can outsmart them by following the game and understanding spots and when a team is overvalued. Bottom line here is that Arizona state was due for some regression. They’re a nice team but essentially this same group of players was an under .500 squad last year. Laying 9 on the road in altitude was too much.

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    I get it. When I pay attention to NBA, I will use Denver and Utah (the venues, not necessarily the teams) in a similar fashion due to elevation/rest.

    Colorado had just been so brutal that I didn't pay a bit of mind to this game. I guess that's part of your buy low, sell high tactic.

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    Twizz, pound Delaware -2 today (v Will. & Mar) 7pm etand keep your streak going.

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