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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime View Post
    Thanks for everybody's comments. One reason college basketball has always appealed to me is that there are so many games almost every night that the line makers can't possible be correct on every single one and therefore the handicappers advantage. When you get to this time of the year there are fewer games and the line makers have had 5 days to "massage" the lines so our advantage is lessened.

    As far as posting in general..... I think I can speak for most, if not all, of the quality handicappers that post plays, posting plays can be stressful if for no other reason than it's hard enough to loose your own money, but you also know others who have followed also lost. To further add to the stress, some may not be practicing good money management and even a short losing streak can be devastating to them.

    Finally, baseball is right around the corner and this is a good time for me to "clear my head" a little, before we have daily games to handicap.

    DD
    While I agree in very large part with your first paragraph, I will make the observation that there is so a lot money bet on the NCAA tournament that is really, really dumb money. Just stand in line at a Vegas sportsbook during the first Thursday or Friday morning and you'll hear some of the craziest theories, not to mention the fans just betting on their teams. That kind of behavior creates opportunities in certain games.

    But, yeah, 300 games per week certainly lends itself to a few soft lines more than the NCAAT does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeluvaGuy View Post
    While I agree in very large part with your first paragraph, I will make the observation that there is so a lot money bet on the NCAA tournament that is really, really dumb money. Just stand in line at a Vegas sportsbook during the first Thursday or Friday morning and you'll hear some of the craziest theories, not to mention the fans just betting on their teams. That kind of behavior creates opportunities in certain games.

    But, yeah, 300 games per week certainly lends itself to a few soft lines more than the NCAAT does.

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    Good morning,

    One Play for Sunday:

    SC/Duke over 143

    Good luck

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    Tailing
    ..let's get it DD

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    I like UCLAs team total Over 78.5 (and -3.5). UC is a solid defensive team but they haven't seen anything like UCLA! I'm 6-0 on Overs in the tournament but NC/Ark Over 163 might get dicey? NC will have to get 95 of it I'm afraid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    I like UCLAs team total Over 78.5 (and -3.5). UC is a solid defensive team but they haven't seen anything like UCLA! I'm 6-0 on Overs in the tournament but NC/Ark Over 163 might get dicey? NC will have to get 95 of it I'm afraid?
    I just think Cinnci will try to slow the whole game down a bit giving UCLA less possessions, unless they fall too far behind. Good luck if you play it.

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    Good morning,

    Wow! What a second half!!!! Never in doubt

    Yesterday 1-0

    YTD Postseason: 3-1

    Good luck

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    Good stuff DD

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime View Post
    Good morning,

    Wow! What a second half!!!! Never in doubt

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    I played the second half over in this one last night. I have had some good success lately with these. Basically, I look for games where the first half is under because of poor shooting (not pace of play). For example, they had 34 possessions at the half and only 53 points largely because USC shot 20% in the first half. There were a lot of FTs also. The second half over was about 2 points less than the implied line should have been based on the game total, so there was value. That one was over with about 5 mins to play. Something to think about for next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeluvaGuy View Post
    I played the second half over in this one last night. I have had some good success lately with these. Basically, I look for games where the first half is under because of poor shooting (not pace of play). For example, they had 34 possessions at the half and only 53 points largely because USC shot 20% in the first half. There were a lot of FTs also. The second half over was about 2 points less than the implied line should have been based on the game total, so there was value. That one was over with about 5 mins to play. Something to think about for next year.
    That was nicely played. Great way to handicap a second half over. Have you tracked the opposite, that is, play the under if there was a great shooting in the first half?

    DD

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    Quote Originally Posted by playr101 View Post
    Good stuff DD
    Thanks playr

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime View Post
    That was nicely played. Great way to handicap a second half over. Have you tracked the opposite, that is, play the under if there was a great shooting in the first half?

    DD
    I have only played one 2h under based on this approach and it won. Honestly, I rarely look for those opportunities, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeluvaGuy View Post
    I have only played one 2h under based on this approach and it won. Honestly, I rarely look for those opportunities, however.
    In your opinion, what is the best site to find the first half stats, (possessions, shooting %, etc.) during the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime View Post
    In your opinion, what is the best site to find the first half stats, (possessions, shooting %, etc.) during the game?
    I'm not aware of any site that provides live stats on possessions. The best I can do is a rough calculation. I use the "Team Stats" section of the espn app. Here's the formula for estimating possessions:

    FGA+(FTA*.475)+Turnovers-Offensive rebounds

    As a practical matter, I usually just take the number of FTA, divide by 2, and subtract one. Close enough when working on the fly.

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    I was on that over last night too. Still can't believe how far it flew over when it was so far behind the pace at halftime! Nuts!

    Nice postseason start, Double D... anything coming for tonight perhaps?

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    Missed it, Dang!
    Nice

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    Good afternoon,

    Nothing in the NIT tonight

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capybara View Post
    I was on that over last night too. Still can't believe how far it flew over when it was so far behind the pace at halftime! Nuts!

    Nice postseason start, Double D... anything coming for tonight perhaps?
    Thanks Capy. Yes it was hard to believe the difference in the two halves.

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    Good afternoon,

    Short card......No Plays

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    Good afternoon,

    Passing again

    Good luck

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    Good afternoon,

    Almost posted Purdue/Kansas over but found some reasons to lay off.

    No Plays Tonight

    Good luck

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    Yeah, I'm close on Mich/Oregon under, Purdue/Kansas over, and Xavier/Arizona over. Might land on the last one. Staying away from unders for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeluvaGuy View Post
    Yeah, I'm close on Mich/Oregon under, Purdue/Kansas over, and Xavier/Arizona over. Might land on the last one. Staying away from unders for a while.
    That's why I morphed into playing the first half when I play an under. Does not always work the way I want, but at least I won't be stung by an OT. I may be overthinking why I should lay off the Purdue/Kansas over, especially now that I see it's on your radar screen.

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    I'm gonna try Kansas over 155
    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime View Post
    That's why I morphed into playing the first half when I play an under. Does not always work the way I want, but at least I won't be stung by an OT. I may be overthinking why I should lay off the Purdue/Kansas over, especially now that I see it's on your radar screen.
    I think it's a good play, but I am going to wait to see how it plays out in the first half. I would really like it at 153ish, but that's not going to happen. FWIW, it looks like a 72/3 possession game (though more are possible). At that pace both offenses are perfectly capable of scoring enough. The problem for me is that the defenses are also capable of shutting that down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeluvaGuy View Post
    I think it's a good play, but I am going to wait to see how it plays out in the first half. I would really like it at 153ish, but that's not going to happen. FWIW, it looks like a 72/3 possession game (though more are possible). At that pace both offenses are perfectly capable of scoring enough. The problem for me is that the defenses are also capable of shutting that down.
    I decided to play it too, not as a posted play, but just play it personally. I like your strategy on the second half, but I'm heading out to dinner so I am playing the whole game since I don't like placing anything at the dinner table, especially after a few drinks.
    Last edited by doubledime; 03-24-17 at 09:14 AM. Reason: grammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Huntertz View Post
    I'm gonna try Kansas over 155
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    Bingo! Thanxs for your input.

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    Yo DD,

    Do you continue your MLB thread from last year or do you make new one when the season starts?

    Also what date is the opening of the season?

    Keep up the good work !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuux View Post
    Yo DD,

    Do you continue your MLB thread from last year or do you make new one when the season starts?

    Also what date is the opening of the season?

    Keep up the good work !
    Thanks Fuux. It will be a new thread and will start about a week after the season begins.


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    Good afternoon,

    Sorry for the late post but we are passing tonight.

    Good luck

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    Good afternoon,

    Just can't find any value in the totals today.....Passing


    Good luck

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    Good afternoon,

    Sorry for sounding like a broken record (for those old enough to remember records)

    Passing today

    Good luck

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    DD if you had to post a play out the 2 what would be the best bet .. thanks

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