[TheMoneyShot]

Shouldn't Arizona blow the fu#$ out of them???

This odd line makes me believe Wichita is the play.

Who are the college basketball gurus in here?

Tell me what's going on here?

[unde0087]

Not touching that one, although I have Wichita going to the next round.

[The Giant]

Oddsmakers seem to like Yale and Wichita State today.

You saw how the first game went.

[TheMoneyShot]

I was watching line movement over night.... and the line went to Arizona -2 at some offshore books. Then quickly went back to PK this morning. I really figured the line would stay at Arizona -2

Just WOW... on this one.

[KVB]

Many lines come across the board on this one from unsophisticated lines that give Arizona the win to sharper forecasts favoring Wichita State. The general betting public, with no real numbers to be triggered in the race but use a variety of “handicapping” methods are uniting with Arizona here.

That said there are some groups seeking Wichita and those may include some of the sharper forecasters. I have Wichita State winning by about 16 points in a 137 or 138 point game.

Make no mistake I believe, with the pressures on Wichita, that Wichita should actually be favored here. I don’t have time to get into the mechanics on why the book opened where it did, but I can assure there is a reason they are holding at a pick.

If that line shifts toward Wichita in a in a sudden move and it appears to get steam, effectively letting the cat out of the bag, Wichita could be in trouble and the sharper groups could give one back. The blind squirrels will get their nut and never even realize why.

Good Luck.

[Time is Money]

Many lines come across the board on this one from unsophisticated lines that give Arizona the win to sharper forecasts favoring Wichita State. The general betting public, with no real numbers to be triggered in the race but use a variety of “handicapping” methods are uniting with Arizona here.

That said there are some groups seeking Wichita and those may include some of the sharper forecasters. I have Wichita State winning by about 11 points in a 137 or 138 point game.

Make no mistake I believe, with the pressures on Wichita, that Wichita should actually be favored here. I don’t have time to get into the mechanics on why the book opened where it did, but I can assure there is a reason they are holding at a pick.

If that line shifts toward Wichita in a in a sudden move and it appears to get steam, effectively letting the cat out of the bag, Wichita could be in trouble and the sharper groups could give one back. The blind squirrels will get their nut and never even realize why.

Good Luck.

all that text and you ain't saying nothing

you guys overthink shit

[KVB]

I made a mistake, I have Wichita winning by 16 points, not 11 in a 137 or 138 point game.

[KVB]

all that text and you ain't saying nothing

you guys overthink shit

I gave you a very sharp forecast and told you what to look for and even what to do if it comes.

You can choose not to listen or you can consider a sharp analysts figures and opinion alongside your own work.

[pavyracer]

Wichita will manhandle Arizona. True line is Wichita St -3.

[KVB]

Pavy just might have a clue...lol.

[The Giant]

Wichita will manhandle Arizona. True line is Wichita St -3.

Is that the true line, the sophisticated line, or the dynamic line?

[TheMoneyShot]

A lot of Wichita Love in this thread.

No one for Arizona.

Weird.

[KVB]

I actually suggest a Wichita loss if the line moves towards them suddenly.

[BIGDAY]

MoneyShot, could Sbr public be sharp on this for once?????????

[TheMoneyShot]

MoneyShot, could Sbr public be sharp on this for once?????????

I would say no.

[TheMoneyShot]

I will say this though....

Whoever is up 8 or 9 at the half. I might take the team trailing to come back.

These oddsmakers usually know what's up.... PK

[Ra77er]

I think it'll be a good game, hard not to back the vets here.

[johnnyvegas13]

This is a very tough gm

I have Zona in my bracket and a ten dollar bet on wich st to make it a win win gm : p

[TPowell]

Gregg Marshall is unreal. Sean Miller couldn't believe his eyes. All the trapping and pressing

[johnnyvegas13]

Gregg Marshall is unreal. Sean Miller couldn't believe his eyes. All the trapping and pressing

Is this supposed to be something u bump after the gm ???

[stevek173]

Trier needs to calm the fk down and find his shot or we're toast.

[jt315]

When in doubt trust Vegas over the committee.
Was thinking Seton Hall but why is the 11 favored over the 6? Pass

[TPowell]

Is this supposed to be something u bump after the gm ???

Did you miss the first minute of the game. Miller had to call a timeout to prepare them for the pressure

[unde0087]

Low scoring affair

[TPowell]

best defense in the country tends to stop teams. Wonder when Zona struggles tonight if Wichita gets the credit or the other team just sucked like Vanderbilt did apparently

[KVB]

When in doubt trust Vegas over the committee.
Was thinking Seton Hall but why is the 11 favored over the 6? Pass

Bettors using averages and essentially non predictive stats might get Seton Hall to win by 3 or 4 points but I can tell you sharp forecasts are clearly with Gonzaga.

I have Gonzaga winning the game by 5 points but am passing for this one.

Vegas forced to settle between the sharp money moving bettors and the swell of tickets from the unsophisticated public. In that sense, they have split the money well.

[lakerboy]

Pavy just might have a clue...lol.

Even a retard can put a box of Lego together.

[jt315]

Bettors using averages and essentially non predictive stats might get Seton Hall to win by 3 or 4 points but I can tell you sharp forecasts are clearly with Gonzaga.

I have Gonzaga winning the game by 5 points but am passing for this one.

Vegas forced to settle between the sharp money moving bettors and the swell of tickets from the unsophisticated public. In that sense, they have split the money well.

Ken Pom and Sagarin disagree as well.
Total head scratcher. So as they say , sometimes the best bet is a no bet.

[KVB]

Even a retard can put a box of Lego together.

[KVB]

Ken Pom and Sagarin disagree as well.
Total head scratcher. So as they say , sometimes the best bet is a no bet.

I'm passing but went with USC +2.5 for this slot; even though my numbers show Providence winning by almost 10 points. Circumstances tell me to counter my numbers here.

Good Luck.

[NardVa]

Sean Miller is just a bad coach when it comes to prepping his team. Arizona started the last game against Oregon falling behind early. Same script different day.

[drfunkmaster]

well looks like zona sucks, they gonna lose by double digits

[NardVa]

well looks like zona sucks, they gonna lose by double digits

Arizona is to talented to be scoring 19 points in a half. Miller is a joke for a head coach. He joins the list with Painter for Purdue and Boyle for Colorado who got exposed today for not being good coaches.

[chosen4th]

Ive got 8 units on Wichita, should i put some on zona 2h -3.5??

[drfunkmaster]

Ive got 8 units on Wichita, should i put some on zona 2h -3.5??

yes do it..