[No coincidences]

Not really understanding the hate for the Shockers. Yeah, they played no one during the regular season. Who cares? Team is still absolutely loaded. Returns crazy NCAA Tournament experience from their Final Four team that nearly beat Louisville, and Van Vleet is arguably the most improved player in basketball (along with Wilbukein). He was a reserve on last year's team. Now he's a star.

To me, they're on a short list of teams that can win it all. Worth the odds at more than 10-to-1 in my book. Team plays with a chip on its shoulder, and loaded with angry players who won't be intimidated by anyone. I'm not sure people realize how good they truly are.

[TheMoneyShot]

GL Coin. I've posted this in another thread before... I think this year in the NCAA it's 100% a crap shoot unlike other years. When you think you have a handle on it... it slips away. Duke can't trust. Michigan State... can't trust... anyone is beatable. W.S. has only one thing working against them... nerves. How nervous will they play? That's all that matters.

[InTheDrink]

playing louisville in the sweet 16 is brutal....theyll be what....4 pt dogs?

interesting dynamic that a team is undefeated and can legit go in playing the disrespected card

[No coincidences]

GL Coin. I've posted this in another thread before... I think this year in the NCAA it's 100% a crap shoot unlike other years. When you think you have a handle on it... it slips away. Duke can't trust. Michigan State... can't trust... anyone is beatable. W.S. has only one thing working against them... nerves. How nervous will they play? That's all that matters.

I don't know why they'd be nervous. They're a bunch of badass mofos who have been told all year long that they're fraudulent. If they didn't make that FF run last year, I could understand the pause. Given their track record, I don't get the doubt.

To be honest, as wide open as the field is this year, I can only see a small handful of teams actually contending for a title. Florida, Wichita, Louisville, maybe Michigan State or Iowa State as a long shot. That's about it for me.

[No coincidences]

playing louisville in the sweet 16 is brutal....theyll be what....4 pt dogs?

interesting dynamic that a team is undefeated and can legit go in playing the disrespected card

Why would they be dogs to Louisville though? They lost by 4 to them in the FF last year, and have almost everyone back. How many starters do the Cards return from that game? 1 or 2? I know Deng, Siva, and Hancock are all gone at least.

[InTheDrink]

my pph doesnt have anything up yet

whats louisvilles future line?

[No coincidences]

my pph doesnt have anything up yet

whats louisvilles future line?

+825.

They'll have their hands full with St. Lou to even get to Wichita.

[InTheDrink]

+825.

They'll have their hands full with St. Lou to even get to Wichita.

so there you go....louisville will definitely be favored

[The Kraken]

Baylor 100:1

[Gonz312]

It will be tough, but I like this team. I put in futures for wich st., florida and kansas. Kansas only because I can see Wiggins turning into Melo ala 02-03 and taking over

[Cuse0323]

Cuse +2100, first year without a large wager on him so it finally hits. Two teams I don't mind seeing, Kansas and Florida. JB has Donovan's number and same with Kansas. No PG for Kansas, they will be lost against the zone. Final Four, book it. Ohio State may be the toughest match-up, hope Dayton takes em out.

[EaglesPhan36]

It is a crapshoot, but Wichita State has been marked for death. Their path is tough and think you'd sweat this future every round after the opener. Honestly given their potential draw, I think their odds need to be longer to be looked st.

[tony_come]

Wichita state will not get pass the second 2nd round

[BennyBigNuts]

Wichita 15-1 right now at the Hilton.

[The Giant]

Better off just money-lining them every game.

Doing that would probably net you 30-1, at minimum.

[rm18]

They stacked the bracket against them preseason fav kentucky and then louisville like said got to ml.it or nothing

[No coincidences]

Baylor 100:1

Coach is a mental midget, but they have the talent and the bracket to do it. Nebraska/Baylor winner might be in the regional finals.

[thetrinity]

initially i thought there would be too much pressure on them for going for history and being 40-0 but now the tables have turned as everyone has them losing before the elite 8. how much of a dog against a potential louisville matchup they would be is going to depend a lot on how each team looks in the first 2 games.

[No coincidences]

They stacked the bracket against them preseason fav kentucky and then louisville like said got to ml.it or nothing

They did, but they'll take care of schizo Kentucky. If they beat Louisville, they're in. Bottom half of that bracket is garbage.

[No coincidences]

initially i thought there would be too much pressure on them for going for history and being 40-0 but now the tables have turned as everyone has them losing before the elite 8. how much of a dog against a potential louisville matchup they would be is going to depend a lot on how each team looks in the first 2 games.

Louisville is really good. Don't get me wrong. I hate that they have them in Wichita's bracket.

You put Wichita in the West and it's a cakewalk. That bracket is a joke. Wisconsin is junk, and Creighton has no business being a 3. Watch out for SDSU there if Arizona doesn't make it.

[Sam Odom]

Buy a Lotto Ticket

[RollinDo]

GL Coin. I've posted this in another thread before... I think this year in the NCAA it's 100% a crap shoot unlike other years. When you think you have a handle on it... it slips away. Duke can't trust. Michigan State... can't trust... anyone is beatable. W.S. has only one thing working against them... nerves. How nervous will they play? That's all that matters.

Wichita State has nerves of steel.
That's why they're undefeated so far, and that's why I think they have the best shot to win it all.
They play to their motto - play angry - they have maintained focus all year and they won't let that go now.
They truly play 1 game at a time, and honestly only saw like 2-3 games this year where they didn't really turn it on against bad competition.
Their biggest test will be vs. Louisville in Sweet 16 (don't understand that match-up by committee at all), who is a potential Final 4 team too. But I see Shockers getting revenge vs. Cards from last year's Final 4 when the Shockers looked to have that game won.

I'll take these odds and probably hedge if/when they make the Final 4.

[RollinDo]

I like SD State's odds of 53:1 to win too, but I may take them game by game after the first couple rounds.

[greenhippo]

No love for Zona? I have them taking it all.

[RollinDo]

No love for Zona? I have them taking it all.

Look at what they've done in last 7-8 games. You think they can win 6 straight? It's possible, but I'd rather go with a proven team that has been consistent all season.

What do you have to lose with these odds on Shockers. I'll put just .5 units on it - no big loss and won't have any regrets, but I'd hate for them to make it to Final 4 and then say, "I wish I woulda..."

[Tommy Karate]

I don't know why they'd be nervous. They're a bunch of badass mofos who have been told all year long that they're fraudulent. If they didn't make that FF run last year, I could understand the pause. Given their track record, I don't get the doubt.

To be honest, as wide open as the field is this year, I can only see a small handful of teams actually contending for a title. Florida, Wichita, Louisville, maybe Michigan State or Iowa State as a long shot. That's about it for me.

They made the final four last year but weren't they a dd seed?
Nowas a 1 seed and being undefeated they have a bullseye on their back.
Much better value out there at longerodds imo.
Brutal matchhup for them vs. Lville.

[thetrinity]

one thing i know for sure is that ratings for wichita kentucky and wichita louisville will be through the roof if those games happen. obvious tv agendas with some of these games

[No coincidences]

I like SD State's odds of 53:1 to win too, but I may take them game by game after the first couple rounds.

I like SDSU a lot. Thames is arguably the best player in the tournament.

Arizona wouldn't surprise me, greener. Easiest region by far.

[t-wizzle]

I really hope Wichita State comes through and shuts everyone up. Quite frankly, their toughest games (before the Final) would be Kentucky and Louisville.

I believe they would beat a Michigan or Duke in the regionals. It's getting there that's going to be the problem.

One correction: you said Hancock is gone. He's still there - standing on the 3 pt line... knocking down 3s.

[BigDeem5]

Why would they be dogs to Louisville though? They lost by 4 to them in the FF last year, and have almost everyone back. How many starters do the Cards return from that game? 1 or 2? I know Deng, Siva, and Hancock are all gone at least.

Hancock isn't gone...

Lol stare at line moves some more

[No coincidences]

I really hope Wichita State comes through and shuts everyone up. Quite frankly, their toughest games (before the Final) would be Kentucky and Louisville.

I believe they would beat a Michigan or Duke in the regionals. It's getting there that's going to be the problem.

One correction: you said Hancock is gone. He's still there - standing on the 3 pt line... knocking down 3s.

Yeah, my bad. I was thinking of someone else.

[TonyTall]

+1150 to win it all no way

way too many tough games for them

i only see 2 good wins all year. versus st louis, a game that was 66-65 with :30 left

and a win vs tennessee that was tied with 6 minutes left.

if they were in a major conference they would be at best 13-5 in that conference. solid team no doubt but +1150 is playing right into the books hands.............i would maybe take them at +1900

[STAX]

I got them at 125 to 1 preseason, but Id put em at 20 to 25 to 1 right now

[TonyTall]

I got them at 125 to 1 preseason, but Id put em at 20 to 25 to 1 right now

thats what im saying. the value is long gone at 11-1

ok so they win game 1 easily yes of course

but does a 5 game moneyline parlay with them versus the best teams in the country only payout +1150 lol

no value

[PorkChop]

Like it.

I may take a stab with Creighton. I like picking teams who can shoot.