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    Two ballsy early lines Saturday

    Oklahoma +3 vs. Iowa State
    Dayton -2 vs. St. Louis

    Wow. I have OU +5.5 and Dayton +2, and I think it'd be hard to argue otherwise. Do the linesmakers nail these games or get KenPom'ed again?

    Edit: holy hell, make that three. Arkansas -1 vs. Florida?

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    I def agree with your view on Dayton. I would see a slight advantage for STL in this spot and not Dayton. I thought maybe this game would be a pickem but its moving to Dayton -2.5 at some books

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    A few other thoughts....

    I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.

    Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.

    Like Missouri State +10 vs. Wichita.

    St. John's at +5 vs. Villanova sort of has my attention.

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    NC, nice hit on the Hawks on Wed I think it was. I increased my play a bit after reading your thoughts. Thank you. Hope you bat a thousand today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    A few other thoughts....

    I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.

    Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.

    Like Missouri State +10 vs. Wichita.

    St. John's at +5 vs. Villanova sort of has my attention.
    Has my attention too

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    St John's so undisciplined and inconsistent perimeter scoring I have a hard time counting on them. My 2 cents. GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    St John's so undisciplined and inconsistent perimeter scoring I have a hard time counting on them. My 2 cents. GL
    Agree they're very erratic. Who knows. Nova is good, but I'm not sure (yet) that they're Top-10 good, though.

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    I'm on Dayton and Arky.

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    Florida's leading scorer is out. Guess that line makes at least a little more sense now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leetreaper View Post
    I'm on Dayton and Arky.
    Looks good. Boston College might be worth considering too if you want an early degenerate bet. VT is a mess right now.

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    ISU -4.5 now. Should probably close at 5 or 5.5 to be honest. If it doesn't, I wouldn't want to be on the Cyclones.

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    No coin Indy U -1 $2500 what u think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    ISU -4.5 now. Should probably close at 5 or 5.5 to be honest. If it doesn't, I wouldn't want to be on the Cyclones.
    Why do you like the sooners here?

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    Ok is good but can't hang with Iowa st

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    No coin Indy U -1 $2500 what u think?
    Makes sense on paper, but IU isn't very good and hard to trust them away from home. PSU is garbage though.

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    gonna take a shot before i unload half my roll on brady later.

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    Thanks for the Intel, NC.
    just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
    for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
    cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    gonna take a shot before i unload half my roll on brady later.
    Not sure if I'd go huge, but I do like the Pats. Good luck my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackeyeshamus View Post
    Thanks for the Intel, NC.
    just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
    for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
    cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.
    Good luck chief.

    Cyclones go down and BC cashes. Dayton falls. We'll see what happens here with Arkansas and St. John's 2H.

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    Payne out for MSU. Trice doubtful.

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    and ark at home is unstoppable..

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    florida plays crazy good defense....they are gonna be a force come march.

    and they hit their free throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackeyeshamus View Post
    Thanks for the Intel, NC.
    just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
    for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
    cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.


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    I am such a loser. I couldn't pick my nose if I had to.

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    arkansas just blew it.....missed front end of 1 and 1 to go up 4. 67% choke artist...

    that wide open missed dunk 3 minutes ago was the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    arkansas just blew it.....missed front end of 1 and 1 to go up 4. 67% choke artist...

    that wide open missed dunk 3 minutes ago was the difference.
    Ho-hum -- another highly-ranked road dog cashes. Par for the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Ho-hum -- another highly-ranked road dog cashes. Par for the course.
    gonna start playing more higher ranked teams....im way overthinking this sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    gonna start playing more higher ranked teams....im way overthinking this sport.
    There's no other sport on the planet where a top-level team would open as a dog against a middle-tier opponent -- let alone have the line move in favor of the middle-tier opponent. It doesn't happen in college football or any sports at the pro level, other than baseball every once in a while due to pitching matchups. I'm saying (again) that KenPom and computers have Vegas spooked, and their lazy inflexibility when it comes to copying their homework is a huge detriment to their bottom line. Are you telling me Arkansas would've been -3.5 in this exact same spot 10 years ago? Hell no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    There's no other sport on the planet where a top-level team would open as a dog against a middle-tier opponent -- let alone have the line move in favor of the middle-tier opponent. It doesn't happen in college football or any sports at the pro level, other than baseball every once in a while due to pitching matchups. I'm saying (again) that KenPom and computers have Vegas spooked, and their lazy inflexibility when it comes to copying their homework is a huge detriment to their bottom line. Are you telling me Arkansas would've been -3.5 in this exact same spot 10 years ago? Hell no.
    arkansas would have been +3.5 and covered...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Karate View Post
    arkansas would have been +3.5 and covered...
    Exactly.

    Meanwhile, Duke gets destroyed today, Memphis is losing, Auburn covers the original line, etc. Like I said, the games are out there -- you just have to find them and there are so many to choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.
    Wow. Did that just happen?

    Holy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Wow. Did that just happen?

    Holy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.
    The trifecta. First Arkansas, then Minnesota, now this.

    4:23 Seth VanDeest made Free Throw. 61-58
    4:23 Seth VanDeest missed Free Throw. 61-58
    4:23 61-58 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
    4:05 61-60 Wes Washpun made Layup.
    3:42 Richard Carter Turnover. 61-60
    3:41 61-60 Nate Buss Steal.
    3:37 61-63 Matt Bohannon made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Deon Mitchell.
    3:04 Jordan Daniels missed Layup. 61-63
    3:04 61-63 Matt Bohannon Defensive Rebound.
    2:58 61-66 Nate Buss made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Deon Mitchell.
    2:53 Drake Timeout
    2:42 Richard Carter missed Three Point Jumper. 61-66
    2:42 61-66 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
    2:07 61-68 Deon Mitchell made Layup.
    1:48 61-68 Foul on Wes Washpun.
    1:48 Official TV Timeout
    1:48 Jordan Daniels made Free Throw. 62-68
    1:48 Jordan Daniels made Free Throw. 63-68
    1:43 63-70 Deon Mitchell made Layup. Assisted by Wes Washpun.
    1:30 Karl Madison missed Three Point Jumper. 63-70
    1:30 63-70 Wes Washpun Defensive Rebound.
    1:22 63-72 Seth Tuttle made Layup. Assisted by Wes Washpun.
    1:08 Chris Caird missed Three Point Jumper. 63-72
    1:08 63-72 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
    0:59 Foul on Karl Madison. 63-72
    0:56 Foul on Jordan Daniels. 63-72
    0:35 Foul on Richard Carter. 63-72
    0:35 63-73 Wes Washpun made Free Throw.
    0:35 63-74 Wes Washpun made Free Throw.
    0:33 Jordan Daniels made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Richard Carter. 66-74
    0:31 Drake Timeout
    0:29 Foul on Aaron Hawley. 66-74
    0:29 66-75 Matt Bohannon made Free Throw.
    0:29 66-76 Matt Bohannon made Free Throw.
    0:23 Aaron Hawley missed Three Point Jumper. 66-76
    0:23 66-76 Northern Iowa Defensive Rebound.
    0:09 66-76 Matt Bohannon Turnover.
    0:09 Richard Carter Steal. 66-76
    0:06 Jordan Daniels missed Layup. 66-76
    0:06 66-76 Deon Mitchell Block.
    0:04 66-76 Wes Washpun Defensive Rebound.
    0:00 End of Game

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