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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    ill take the home team and experience down the stretch..cant believe you called bill self the best coach in basketball? are you high? he isnt the best coach in this gm..
    Self isn't even the best coach in his conference.

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    I went back and forth with this game and ended up taking the 3.5 and Kansas

    Square play

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Self isn't even the best coach in his conference.
    ya because the rest of the coaches in the BIG 12 just let Bill Self own the conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Self isn't even the best coach in his conference.
    LOL... I can't believe that was even a thought.

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    I hate Kansas almost as much as anyone, and that isn't an understatement. I can't stand Bill Self as a person, much like I think coach K is a schmuck, but also much like Coach K - I fully respect what they are able to do. What is that saying you under 30 folks say these day "Game recognize Game".

    Bill Self is the best coach in college, it's obviously debatable, and Donovan most likely replaces Roy at UNC once old boy retires, so Billy is also a very good coach. I just can't ignore Self's streak of conference championships, many of them in years where he wasn't even projected top 2. His streak of conference championships is as impressive a stat as any other coach's stat's in the history of this game (aside from Wooden).

    Self, don't like the guy, but it is insane to think he isn't at least a top 5 coach in the country - and at that point the argument about "who is better" is subjective.

    Point being, Self is a helluva coach.

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    The only play here is the over... Being a KU homer for forever its hard not to notice our lack of defense this year. However, we have no problem scoring and I doubt Florida will either with their top guards returning.

    With these new rules its just hard to see this game even going under 140...

    If you can get an in-game line when KU is down by 10 sometime in the first half (lets be honest its gonna happen) take the points. Bill rarely gets blown out and is probably the best coach in the final 5 minutes of a game the NCAA has seen in the past 20+ years...

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    No play here for me.


    Hopefully Kansas wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    These games are so parody..someone may get blown out
    Hmmmm

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    Just locked in 10.5.... Easy money

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    Wiggins most overrated player in the Country

    fuk him

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Wiggins most overrated player in the Country

    fuk him
    plays way too passive for long stretches for being a supposed star

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    plays way too passive for long stretches for being a supposed star
    should've dunked it! Should've dunked it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    plays way too passive for long stretches for being a supposed star

    He's 18 years old and it's the first month. Give the kid a chance.

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    Who the fukk is this raspy voiced announcer?? Guy sounds like he's been smoking since age 7

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    Gators on the ropes here

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    He's 18 years old and it's the first month. Give the kid a chance.
    its all relative...parker is 18 too....randle is a few months older...they dont have that issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    its all relative...parker is 18 too....randle is a few months older...they dont have that issue
    Yea and Parker is the most polished college basketball player to come in as a freshman in at least 20 years. Randle is just a strong beast.

    You're comparing them to a raw talent in Wiggins whose body isn't fully developed yet. I like Parker best of the 3 but people are jumping the gun way too early on Wiggins. He deserves some time.

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    Kansas is whore shit

    Never taking them again

    Wiggins is at least 3 years away from nba

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Yea and Parker is the most polished college basketball player to come in as a freshman in at least 20 years. Randle is just a strong beast.

    You're comparing them to a raw talent in Wiggins whose body isn't fully developed yet. I like Parker best of the 3 but people are jumping the gun way too early on Wiggins. He deserves some time.
    he was the rivals #1 hs senior and these are the gueys hes going to be drafted behind

    maybe he will become more assertive in the nba but he wont have much time here....and thats all i can base it on

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    Kansas might not even be a top 20 team let's stop chasing them

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    Damn, that no call on Wiggins was criminal. Was the difference to me stealing money and losing vig on the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Kansas might not even be a top 20 team let's stop chasing them
    Goldie, I don't know what is worse, your insight on Soccer or your insight on College ball.

    USA not being a competitive soccer team, or Kansas not being top 20 this year. Unrealz.

    If the futures market reacts after this losing streak by Kansas, there is probably decent value.

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    I was wrong on this one, Kansas wasn't ready. 23 turnovers on the road wont get it done, ever.

    Made a Kansas 2h -3 EV bet that is barely hanging on to cover my losses up to vig. C'mon Kansas, don't fukk me here.

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    C'mon Kansas. Steal this shit!

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    Prayer 3? 1 time?

    Unreal. Dumb bastard didn't shoot it in time for a miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    I was wrong on this one, Kansas wasn't ready. 23 turnovers on the road wont get it done, ever.

    Made a Kansas 2h -3 EV bet that is barely hanging on to cover my losses up to vig. C'mon Kansas, don't fukk me here.
    they were terrified during that 21-0 run

    now wiggins chucking from half court hitting some, missing some....he couldnt have contributed to get one bucket in that 7 or 8 minute stretch? not gonna hammer the kid any more, but star players dont let that happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Wiggins most overrated player in the Country

    fuk him
    Razor sharp again Corbin you dumbfukk.
    26pts 11rebs

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheDrink View Post
    they were terrified during that 21-0 run

    now wiggins chucking from half court hitting some, missing some....he couldnt have contributed to get one bucket in that 7 or 8 minute stretch? not gonna hammer the kid any more, but star players dont let that happen
    When I saw wiggins in HS, the LeBron comparisons athletically were on point. Athleticism doesn't get it done consistently in college, court is too small, teams can play legit zone and pack it in, etc.

    Wiggins is a much better pro prospect than college prospect, and a guy you can build around. He's top 5 material.

    He just isn't going to take Kansas as far as Jabari can take Duke.

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    Unreal the Wiggins hate. The team as a whole needs time. All young guys.

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    yeah that's always how i looked at westbrook...sick athlete but not made for the college game like he was for the nba

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    That last 3 was 1 second off from penetrating the world.

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    pay attention to the line moves ... your gut is never going to make you a winning gambler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    I hate Kansas almost as much as anyone, and that isn't an understatement. I can't stand Bill Self as a person, much like I think coach K is a schmuck, but also much like Coach K - I fully respect what they are able to do. What is that saying you under 30 folks say these day "Game recognize Game".

    Bill Self is the best coach in college, it's obviously debatable, and Donovan most likely replaces Roy at UNC once old boy retires, so Billy is also a very good coach. I just can't ignore Self's streak of conference championships, many of them in years where he wasn't even projected top 2. His streak of conference championships is as impressive a stat as any other coach's stat's in the history of this game (aside from Wooden).

    Self, don't like the guy, but it is insane to think he isn't at least a top 5 coach in the country - and at that point the argument about "who is better" is subjective.

    Point being, Self is a helluva coach.
    Self is the best recruiter in the nation. He's like the cool uncle and is a player's coach. His bench coaching is not that great, and come NCAA tournament 1st round, he shits his pants and hyperventilates if his team is down at the first timeout. Hence, the loss to Northern Iowa, and the two first round losses to Bradley and Belmont. His players feed off of his panic and play tight. Great coach? Not at all, but he will always succeed because he gets the talent.

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    calipari is easily the best recruiter in the nation... perhaps his methods contain a few more $$$ than others though ... i sure do wish Pastner was a better coach, because he is the best young recruiter out there...just has no clue what to do with the talent he gets

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    Books so smart, they don't give a shit about this "better" team like people in these threads.

    You can't be profitable betting public road dogs long term.

    Never thought Kansas would have 3 losses this early though...

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