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    Grease King's greasy NCAAB plays

    Hey guys,

    I'm a recent engineering grad who started handicapping as a hobby now that I have the time to watch sports every day. Basketball has proven itself to be the best sport to actually handicap (i.e predict your own spreads), and NCAAB has proven itself to present more opportunity than the NBA.

    What I do is I handicap what I think the spread should actually be, then I look for games where my spread disagrees with the spread offered by the bookie. If there is a 2+ point difference in the spreads I pick the side that gives more value to me. If there is an outrageous difference between the line I drew and the one the book drew, then I presume I missed something and don't touch the game.

    As of today (Dec-03), I am 33-12 for a 73.33% win rate on the season. I KNOW THIS NUMBER WILL DROP, 73.3% WIN RATE IS NOT SUSTAINABLE!

    None the less, I really believe I am on to something, and would like to share my picks with the community. I already track everything in an excel spreadsheet, but without posting my picks before the game starts, there is no way of knowing if I am for real or not!

    Now that the serious crap is out of the way, I would like to say that this is a relaxed thread. I am an engineer, but I also smoke weed almost every night and drink on a regular basis. Spam hate and Spam love are always welcome, anything to keep the thread alive

    Tail me, fade me, hate me, whatever...Here come the picks!

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    day 1

    Dec-03

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Massachusetts vs. Eastern Michigan Massachusetts -5 5.3 5
    Miami-Ohio vs. IUPU-Fort Wayne IPFW -2 5 5.15
    Belmont vs. middle Tenn St Belmont +7 5.15 5
    Notre Dame vs. Iowa Iowa -7 4.36 4
    Southern Utah vs. CS Northridge Southern Utah +14 5 5



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    gl on the season..

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    Which one are you most confident on? looking to go big on 1 or 2 games

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    good post

    Really enjoy posts like this, hope you keep it updated and to well. Really wish you would include some information and data behind the picks.

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    Welcome

    I'm on Iowa 4x but against you on MTSU 2x

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    Chalutes, I will start posting my predicted spread, but anything more than that starts to give a little too much insight in to how I do things. If this does turn out to be a profitable system, then I can't let it become common knowledge!

    Bears, I am about to post my predicted spreads for the games I picked. I will bold the one with the largest gap from my spread to the books thread.

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    Easten Michigan vs. Massachusetts
    Grease King line= Massachusetts -8.3 Vegas Line=Massachusetts-5.5
    I took this earlier in the day at -5.0, line movement suggests I capped this one correctly

    IPFW vs. Miami OH
    Grease King line= IPFW -6.2 Vegas Line=IPFW-1.5
    I took this at IPFW-2 for the +money


    Middle Tenn St. vs. Belmont
    Grease King line=Middle Tenn -4 Vegas Line=Middle Tenn St. -8
    I took this at Belmont +7, Line movement suggests I am wrong. If I am right, there is now more value


    Notre Dame Vs. Iowa
    Grease King line = Iowa -10.6 Vegas Line= Iowa -7.5
    I took this at Iowa -7, Line movement suggests I did this one right

    Southern Utah vs. CS Northridge
    Grease King line = Northridge - 10.8 vegas Line= Northridge -14.5
    I took Utah at +14 @+100, +14.5 is priced @-109
    Last edited by Grease King; 12-03-13 at 05:30 PM.

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    anyone have a stream for the Massachusetts game? All I can do right now is monitor the score

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    Mac-sports is streaming The umass and iupuifw games

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    Thanks Chalutes! It says it's not available outside the US, looks like its proxy time.

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    Last nights Results


    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Massachusetts @ Eastern Michigan Massachusetts -5 5.3 5 1 1 5
    Miami-Ohio @ IUPU-Fort Wayne IPFW -2 5 5.15 1 -1 -5
    Belmont @ Middle Tenn St Belmont +7 5.15 5 1 1 5
    Notre Dame @ Iowa Iowa -7 4.36 4 1 -0.872 -4.36
    Southern Utah @ C S Northridge Southern Utah +14 5 5 1 -1 -5
    Total: 24.81 24.15 2 3 -0.872 -4.36




    Thread results to date

    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    2 3 -0.872 -4.36
    Win %= 40

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    Day 2

    Dec-04

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Bradley vs. IUPUI Bradley -11.5 5 5.15
    Drexel vs. Cleveland State Drexel -6.5 5.3 5
    George Washington vs. Rutgers George Washington -9.5 7.42 7
    Marist vs. Iona Iona -18.5 5.05 5
    Evansville vs. Murray State Evansville ML 4.04 4
    Davidson vs. Charlotte U Charlotte U -8.5 5.5 5
    Maryland vs. Ohio State Ohio -10.5 5.3 5
    Pennsylvania @ Villanova Villanova -17.5 5.3 5
    Wisconsin vs. Virginia Wisconsin +4.5 5.3 5
    Detroit U vs. Toledo Detroit U +9.5 5.1 5
    CS Fullerton vs. Pepperdine Pepperdine -5 5.35 5
    Eastern Illinois vs. Western Illinois Western Illinois -1.5
    Total: 58.66 56.15 0 0 0 0


    Almost every pick for tonight is on a favorite - points. That always makes me nervous. Lets see how it turns out
    Last edited by Grease King; 12-04-13 at 04:24 PM.

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    Today I was getting very unusual results for the first time. I hope these plays hit so I don't start off the thread cold. The plays I am most confident in are: Ohio, George Washington, Iona (now -17 not -18.5), Villanova, and Bradley.

    Again, got unusual results today, hopefully things work out better than they did yesterday. This is a much bigger card than I usually play. Even more games than posted came up as plays today which never happens.

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    Another not so good night to start the thread...
    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Bradley vs. IUPUI Bradley -11.5 5 5.15 1 -1 -5
    Drexel vs. Cleveland State Drexel -6.5 5.3 5 1 -1.06 -5.3
    George Washington vs. Rutgers George Washington -9.5 7.42 7 1 -1.484 -7.42
    Marist vs. Iona Iona -18.5 5.05 5 1 -1.01 -5.05
    Evansville vs. Murray State Evansville ML 4.04 4 1 -0.808 -4.04
    Davidson vs. Charlotte U Charlotte U -8.5 5.5 5 1 -1.1 -5.5
    Maryland vs. Ohio State Ohio -10.5 5.3 5 1 1 5
    Pennsylvania @ Villanova Villanova -17.5 5.3 5 1 1 5
    Wisconsin vs. Virginia Wisconsin +4.5 5.3 5 1 1 5
    Detroit U vs. Toledo Detroit U +9.5 5.1 5 1 -1.02 -5.1
    CS Fullerton vs. Pepperdine Pepperdine -5 5.35 5 1 -1.07 -5.35
    Eastern Illinois vs. Western Illinois Western Illinois -1.5 5.6 5 1 1 5
    Total: 64.26 61.15 4 8 -4.552 -22.76


    Thread to date

    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    6 11 -5.424 -27.12
    Win %= 35.2941176

    I started this thread with an active 73% win rate going, so I knew it was due to dip. Here's to turning things around!
    Last edited by Grease King; 12-05-13 at 07:11 AM.

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    Day 3

    Dec-05


    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Mississippi vs. Kansas Mississippi +2 5.9 5
    Rider vs. Monmouth Monmouth +3 5.3 5

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    ANOTHER BAD DAY LAST NIGHT! Consider fading me, since my loss rate is now impressive haha
    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Mississippi vs. Kansas Mississippi +2 5.9 5 1 -1.18 -5.9
    Rider vs. Monmouth Monmouth +3 5.3 5 1 -1.06 -5.3
    Total: 11.2 10 0 2 -2.24 -11.2


    Thread to date
    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    6 14 -7.664 -42.32
    Win %= 30

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    Keep going dont give up

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    Day 4

    Dec 06

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    fairfield vs. quinippiac quin -7.5 5.5 5
    California vs. Cal Santa Barbara Cal Santa +3 11 10
    South Carolina vs. Oklahoma State Oklahoma -16.5 6.6 6
    Total: 17.6 16 0 0 0 0


    I don't like the oklahoma play as much as I do the other two. I kind of knew I would hit a losing streak as soon as I started posting plays to the public

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    Day 4:results

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    fairfield vs. quinippiac quin -7.5 5.5 5 1 -1.1 -5.5
    California vs. Cal Santa Barbara Cal Santa +3 11 10 1 2 10
    South Carolina vs. Oklahoma State Oklahoma -16.5 6.6 6 1 1.2 6
    Total: 23.1 21 2 1 2.1 10.5


    Finally a winning day. Gonna take a week or so to turn this thread around

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    Day 5

    Dec-07

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Northern Iowa vs. Iowa State Iowa State -11 5 5.15
    North Dakota vs. Butler Butler -11.5 5.4 5
    Central Michigan vs. SIU Edwardsville Central Michigan +2.5 10.6 10
    Nevada vs. UC Davis Nevada -3 5 5
    Total: 26 25.15 0 0 0 0


    I have already missed tons of value games today, busy with real life

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    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win
    Jacksonville state vs. florida state Florida -20 5.45 5
    Boston College vs. USC USC pk 5.3 5
    E. Washington vs. Saint Marys CA Mary -14 5.3 5
    Illinois vs. Auburn Illinois -8 5.1 5

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    Day 5: results

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Northern Iowa vs. Iowa State Iowa State -11 5 5.15 1 -1 -5
    North Dakota vs. Butler Butler -11.5 5.4 5 1 1 5
    Central Michigan vs. SIU Edwardsville Central Michigan +2.5 10.6 10 1 2 10
    Nevada vs. UC Davis Nevada -3 5 5 1 1 5
    Total: 26 25.15 3 1 4 15

    First proper winning day in a while, count it. I'm at 60% on the season in my entire excel, but still below 50 on the thread.

    Thread to date:

    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    11 16 -1.564 -16.82
    Win %= 40.7407407

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    Day 6: Results

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Jacksonville state vs. florida state Florida -20 5.45 5 1 1 5
    Boston College vs. USC USC pk 5.3 5 1 1 5
    E. Washington vs. Saint Marys CA Mary -14 5.3 5 1 1 5
    Illinois vs. Auburn Illinois -8 5.1 5 1 1 5
    Total: 21.15 20 4 0 4 20


    Finally a perfect day. Well on the way to going over 50%. Profitable due to winning the bigger bets.

    Thread to date:
    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    15 16 2.436 7.18
    Win %= 48.3870968
    Last edited by Grease King; 12-08-13 at 09:52 PM.

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    Day 7

    Dec-09

    Only one pick today.

    Fair Dickinson vs. Iowa : Iowa -30 $6.43 to win $6

    I have them capped to win by about 35. Big spreads like this always make me nervous since the effect of calculation errors or false presumptions can become exaggerated. Consider taking this pick just for the first half, since the practice squad may get some playtime when Iowa is absolutely destroying at the half.

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    If anyone is thinking about taking Notre Dame (and lots are), keep in mind I felt the opening line of 13 points was pretty damn sharp. The fact that its moved all the way to -14.5 is almost enough for me to take Bryant + points. If I can get Bryant +16 or so in game, I will probably take it as a side bet to this thread.

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    I've got Bryant +16.5

    Let's get the $$$

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    Day 7: Results

    One game played, one 6 dollar win. This win takes the thread to .500 for the first time
    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    F Dickson vs. Iowa Iowa -30 6.43 6 1 1.2 6
    Total: 6.43 6 1 0 1.2 6

    Thread To Date. I fixed an accounting error, thread is over .500 prior to day 8
    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    16 15 3.636 13.18
    Win %= 51.6129032
    Also got the bonus win on Bryant +16.5, but that was not included in the pre game picks
    Last edited by Grease King; 12-10-13 at 03:53 PM.

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    Day 8

    Dec-10

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    South Dakota State vs. Minnesota U Minnesota U -15.5 5.15 5
    Dartmouth vs. Illinois Illinois -16 15.75 15
    Bradley vs. IPFW IPFW +5.5 5.3 5
    Gonzaga vs. West Virginia Gonzaga -2 5.6 5
    Total: 31.8 30 0 0 0 0


    The only pick I have some confidence in is Illinois -16, and maybe Gonzaga -2

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    Also look in to taking Minnesota U -16 over South Dakota state. NJIT +15 or more over Seton Hall as an in game bet may be worth your time. Arkansas Little Rock +11.5 or more would be a good in game bet. None of these are tracked plays, just my picks if you are looking for more action

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    Day 8: Results

    3-1 tonight, but Illinois just didn't feel like playing in the second half! Everything else hit though. Minnesota U covering by half a point was a nail biter.

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    South Dakota State vs. Minnesota U Minnesota U -15.5 5.15 5 1 5
    Dartmouth vs. Illinois Illinois -16 15.75 15 1 -15.75
    Bradley vs. IPFW IPFW +5.5 5.3 5 1 5
    Gonzaga vs. West Virginia Gonzaga -2 5.6 5 1 5
    Total: 31.8 30 3 1 0 -0.75


    Thread to date
    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    19 16 3.636 12.43
    Win %= 54.2857143

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    Day 9

    Dec-11

    Unless some of the lines get to moving, there are only two plays for tonight.

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Penn State vs. Duquesne Penn State-7 10.2 10
    Princeton vs. Rutgers Princeton -3.5 10.9 10
    Total: 21.1 20 0 0 0 0

    Wisconsin -17 could be good, but there was too much deviation in my calculations for me to trust the numbers I got. Princeton was available at -3 earlier today, but I didn't jump on it :/. I'm pretty busy with real life stuff so probably won't get to watch much tonight! Have a beer for me guys


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    nice thread u got here GK...

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    Day 9: Results

    Just ripped an ENORMOUS BOWL OF KUSH after this insanely long day. I'm still probably going to study all night, gotta get my business education in too. Hope people actually read the shit I write

    Two bets, two wins. Played 2 units not because the calculations indicated value, but just because I've been working hard and decided to get a little more excitement today. Could only monitor the scores while working at my computer, no live footage i.e zero idea what happened... The thread has turned around a little quicker than I thought

    Game Pick Dollars Bet To Win Win Loss Units Won Dollars Won
    Penn State vs. Duquesne Penn State-7 10.2 10 1 2 10
    Princeton vs. Rutgers Princeton -3.5 10.9 10 1 2 10
    Total: 21.1 20 2 0 4 20


    Thread to date
    Total Wins Total Losses Net Units Net Dollars
    21 16 7.486 32.43
    Win %= 56.7567568

    My entire excel for this whole season (started before this thread) is just under 66%. If the two win rates could gradually reach about 60% each by the end of the season, I would call my techniques a success(this is my first attempt at handicapping in my life).

    I'm saving up all my pay cheques so I can have a proper bank roll for next season (presuming I do finish above 55% ATS). Betting 5 dollars and 10 dollars is pretty insignificant. I'm going to save up 30k+ so I can comfortably bankroll 10k and switch to 100 dollar units.

    Anyways I'm gonna stop rambling now. Feel free to post guys

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