1. 04-01-13 09:14 AM #1
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    Anyone with a Louisville future going to try to middle the title game?

    Any idea what the line between L'ville would be vs. Syracuse of Michigan?

    If it's 6 points or more I'm thinking about it...
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  2. 04-01-13 11:02 AM #2
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    Louisville -7 against cuse
    Louisville -5.5 against Michigan
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  3. 04-01-13 11:07 AM #3
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    Wichita has no chance so you have a golden ticket my friend.
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  4. 04-01-13 11:24 AM #4
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    I have Cuse 50@1600...Dunno how I am gonna hedge this shit really...
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  5. 04-01-13 12:07 PM #5
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    If you have a Louisville future you will have a nice hedge opportunity in the championship game, they will be at least 4 point favs against either cuse or mich and probably slightly higher. You should get at least +200 on the ml hedging which will be good enough to hedge. I wouldn't look past Witchita State, I think Louisville wins and probably wins by at least 8, but at Louisville +10.5 you might want to throw a little on the Witchita ML just incase a major upset happens. I still like Louisville Cuse for the championship game.
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  6. 04-01-13 12:08 PM #6
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    I mean -10.5
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  7. 04-01-13 12:14 PM #7
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    Don't you have to hedge the Wichita St game first before you middle the title game?
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  8. 04-01-13 01:00 PM #8
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    If they play Syracuse I hedge because of familiarity
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  9. 04-01-13 01:00 PM #9
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    LV wins it all easy....How should I hedge this ticket any help......no the $ is not a huge deal to me but I just dont feel they have a chance...AND i feel they beat Michigan....BLAH!

    50@1600 cuse ticket...
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  10. 04-01-13 01:01 PM #10
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    got 400@8-1 not sure how to play it so far
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  11. 04-01-13 02:17 PM #11
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    yes because i think syracuse can beat them
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  12. 04-01-13 02:36 PM #12
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    Its called hedging.. How do you "middle" a future bet with the the title game when you are in the semis?

    This site cracks me up
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  13. 04-01-13 02:40 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie1412 View Post
    Its called hedging.. How do you "middle" a future bet with the the title game when you are in the semis?

    This site cracks me up
    I'm thinking ahead. If Wichita wins you obviously can't...but if you wanted to hedge the semis you could put a little on the Wichita ML.
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  14. 04-01-13 02:42 PM #14
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    I would say best way to hedge the final if Louisville makes it there is to hedge on live betting. Like wait until Louisville goes up by 8-10 points and place a small bet on the ML of Syracuse for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralphie1412 View Post
    Its called hedging.. How do you "middle" a future bet with the the title game when you are in the semis?

    This site cracks me up
    you can take Syracuse + the points and middle it
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  16. 04-01-13 04:31 PM #16
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    Louisville about -4.5 vs. Michigan
    -5 vs. Syracuse

    my estimate
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  17. 04-01-13 04:34 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I would say best way to hedge the final if Louisville makes it there is to hedge on live betting. Like wait until Louisville goes up by 8-10 points and place a small bet on the ML of Syracuse for example.
    No, because there's no guarantee that will ever happen.
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  18. 04-01-13 04:59 PM #18
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    zero chance louisville loses to anybody.......wasting your money
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  19. 04-01-13 08:11 PM #19
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    Looking for some advice - I have a $100 play on Michigan to win the tourney at 18:1. I was thinking about trying to hedge and guarantee myself winning a solid amount (between 800 and 1000). Anybody have any ideas?

    Going of odds I see, Syracuse is +125 vs Michigan and Louisville is -160 to win it all, Wichita 10:1 to win it all. Looking for some sort of smart gambling math in order to come out with some good winnings. Basically I see Michigan/Syracuse as 50:50 and Louisville would be -175 vs Michigan if that happened so...

    Thanks anyone with ideas for me...
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  20. 04-02-13 06:38 AM #20
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    All the good teams already lost, what's the point of middling here? Just collect the money and move on.

    It's not like the spread comes into play that often anyway.
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  21. 04-02-13 09:11 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jupiter8 View Post
    Looking for some advice - I have a $100 play on Michigan to win the tourney at 18:1. I was thinking about trying to hedge and guarantee myself winning a solid amount (between 800 and 1000). Anybody have any ideas?

    Going of odds I see, Syracuse is +125 vs Michigan and Louisville is -160 to win it all, Wichita 10:1 to win it all. Looking for some sort of smart gambling math in order to come out with some good winnings. Basically I see Michigan/Syracuse as 50:50 and Louisville would be -175 vs Michigan if that happened so...

    Thanks anyone with ideas for me...
    Bet Syracuse +120 to beat Michigan. I'd risk like 300.

    If Michigan wins, hope the Shockers win because Wichita State would be about +200.

    If it's Louisville/Michigan, Louisville would be around -215
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    All the good teams already lost, what's the point of middling here? Just collect the money and move on.

    It's not like the spread comes into play that often anyway.
    You love that Florida team don't you. An overrated bunch imo. Louisville best team in the country. But they may go down, who knows.
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  23. 04-02-13 09:21 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    got 400@8-1 not sure how to play it so far
    Yeah I got 8/1 to win back in early March of course my other 4 FLA, IND,KST,GTOWN went down. But I might put a hedge not only for this but for a few Brackets that I could possibly cash in the top 3-5 for over a dime. Of course if Fla. could of pulled through to the final. would have been better scenario.
    Think LVILLE takes it easily from here on out.But yeah I will hedge as I like a guranteed profit at the end of the tourney.
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  24. 04-02-13 09:43 AM #24
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    I made 3 future bets Louisville at 4.5 then again at 2.75
    I had Miami at 12-1
    So to hedge here wouldnt really be worth it plus if you have Louisville you have the best team left
    I felt that way when it started
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  25. 04-02-13 09:51 AM #25
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    I've got $500 on Louisville +650. Planning on riding out the Wichita St game and will probably hedge the Championship game...
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  26. 04-02-13 12:53 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    Bet Syracuse +120 to beat Michigan. I'd risk like 300.

    If Michigan wins, hope the Shockers win because Wichita State would be about +200.

    If it's Louisville/Michigan, Louisville would be around -215

    Not a bad idea. I wish there was a way to bet Michigan vs. "The Field" and I could just take the field and hedge that way. Does anyone know if there is a bet out there like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jupiter8 View Post
    Not a bad idea. I wish there was a way to bet Michigan vs. "The Field" and I could just take the field and hedge that way. Does anyone know if there is a bet out there like that?
    The Field against Michigan is minus 375 at 5 Dimes.
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  28. 04-04-13 10:51 PM #28
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    I've got 15-1 from around Christmas. I will NOT be hedging more than likely. I may try to cover what I risked+1 unit but doubtful
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  29. 04-07-13 07:44 AM #29
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    -3.5 or -4 ...will probably just let it ride
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  30. 04-07-13 08:31 AM #30
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    I'm waiting to see what the line does today....if I can get 5.5 or 6 I'm going to hedge on Mich and hope to double dip with a Louisville win by 1-5 pts....
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  31. 04-07-13 09:05 AM #31
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    You shouldn't be placing futures bets if you're going to hedge.

    Take the guy with Mich @ 18:1. the ml for the game is around +200. If someone offered you 18:1 odds, wouldn't you put as much as you could on that bet?

    You essentially want to do the exact opposite and reduce your bet
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  32. 04-07-13 09:08 AM #32
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    That bet is looking good though
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  33. 04-07-13 09:12 AM #33
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    no way is this line going up to 5.5 or 6

    4 is too high, not sure i would middle that when you can just find +165 and guarantee $$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Bogey View Post
    You shouldn't be placing futures bets if you're going to hedge.

    Take the guy with Mich @ 18:1. the ml for the game is around +200. If someone offered you 18:1 odds, wouldn't you put as much as you could on that bet?

    You essentially want to do the exact opposite and reduce your bet
    I agree with this...hedging is a form of loss aversion that makes your odds worse. Thus the reason I thought about going for a "middle". I understand that's a bit of a hedge, but if the line was large enough there was a chance to win both bets. There's times to hedge, maybe if you took Michigan with huge odds and it's a lot of money. With Lousville, this isn't going to be one of those times.
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  35. 04-07-13 12:45 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    no way is this line going up to 5.5 or 6

    4 is too high, not sure i would middle that when you can just find +165 and guarantee $$
    From where I stand I can guarantee about $1800 profit betting Mich ML against my future bet of Louisville +650 or I can bet Michigan +4 and guarantee approx 1300 profit with the possibility of Louisville winning but not covering and I would win almost $5K.....worth hedging on Michigan +4 in my opinion...I just wish the line would move to +5
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