[maxd131]

Can someone explain how it works? Is it just for the first round?

[JakeLc]

from the site

Using your knowledge of NCAA teams, players' skills and statistics the participant will rank each of the 64 NCAA tournament teams numbering them 1 thru 64. 64 being the highest (best score) and 1 being the lowest (worst score). Each time a game is final, you accumulate the points of the winning team to your Total Score.


at the end of the tournament add up the points and if you're in the top 200 you get a piece of the purse

[LT Profits]

The approach I take is first I fill out a straight bracket with no upset bonuses and then I assign the values

[mintpicks79]

This is my favorite bracket to fill out!

[yisman]

I think they did the same thing last year. It's a lot of work assigning the values.

[seaborneq]

Can someone explain how it works? Is it just for the first round?

Easy explanation. The number that you assign a team accumulates as long as they win, points stop accumulating when a team loses. An example that won the top players points that they never worried about towards the end of the tourney was assigning lehiegh 50+ points. Most assigned 50+ to duke. Lehigh beat duke got 50+ points for two or three rounds while duke got most of us 50+ once. You couldn't recover. The best play I had last year was assigning ncst 49. Just a short synopsis of how to win.

[Kaabee]

fill out your bracket then work backwards. winner gets 64 runner up 63. final four losers 62 and 61. elite eight losers 57,58,59,60. sweet sixteen losers 49-56. round of 32 losers get 33-48. first round losers 1-32.

rank your losers according to best chance of getting through.

[seaborneq]

fill out your bracket then work backwards. winner gets 64 runner up 63. final four losers 62 and 61. elite eight losers 57,58,59,60. sweet sixteen losers 49-56. round of 32 losers get 33-48. first round losers 1-32.

rank your losers according to best chance of getting through.

That would not have helped the Lehigh situation last year. That was the make/break pick for this type of contest.

[Kaabee]

That would not have helped the Lehigh situation last year. That was the make/break pick for this type of contest.

if you had valued lehigh you would have done well. doesn't mean you have to give them 60. you could have a team out in first and still give them 32.

btw, my method is the only way to achieve a perfect score. i've done very will with it. took 3rd one year. not playing at heritage anymore so don't care.

[seaborneq]

if you had valued lehigh you would have done well. doesn't mean you have to give them 60. you could have a team out in first and still give them 32.

btw, my method is the only way to achieve a perfect score. i've done very will with it. took 3rd one year. not playing at heritage anymore so don't care.

There is another thread right now about the impossibility of a perfect bracket. Most realistic bracketeers are trying to win a pool not trying to pick an impossible perfect bracket. Give the guy advice on winning the heritage contest not the perfect bracket strategy.

[Kaabee]

There is another thread right now about the impossibility of a perfect bracket. Most realistic bracketeers are trying to win a pool not trying to pick an impossible perfect bracket. Give the guy advice on winning the heritage contest not the perfect bracket strategy.

lol. i did. this is a very good strategy. got me 3rd and 2 other cashes. during the contest you can look at the brackets of the top ten. this is what the top guys do.

the perfect bracket is just a side effect if you will. it's not the goal or what the strategy is based on. you can't maximize points by doing something like giving gonzaga 64 and their second round opponent 63.

[rcene]

Any of you boys every win a prize in that contest?

[seaborneq]

I'm working on my heritage bracket now. It's a whole different ballgame.

[BigDeem5]

It really isn't TOO different. Your final four is 64,63,62,61

Make the 16 seeds abt 1,2,3,4

Your elite 8 is 60,59,58,57 etc...

Only hard part is getting your team 1st rd you think will lose about 30-5 (VCU/Akron) game.. Make the 8/9 match-ups like 31/28 30/29 etc..

[Kaabee]

It really isn't TOO different. Your final four is 64,63,62,61

Make the 16 seeds abt 1,2,3,4

Your elite 8 is 60,59,58,57 etc...

Only hard part is getting your team 1st rd you think will lose about 30-5 (VCU/Akron) game.. Make the 8/9 match-ups like 31/28 30/29 etc..

agreed.

[seaborneq]

It really isn't TOO different. Your final four is 64,63,62,61

Make the 16 seeds abt 1,2,3,4

Your elite 8 is 60,59,58,57 etc...

Only hard part is getting your team 1st rd you think will lose about 30-5 (VCU/Akron) game.. Make the 8/9 match-ups like 31/28 30/29 etc..

Why wouldn't you assign 8-9 seeds like 50 points since they are going to lose in the second round anyway and have more points than anyone else going into the sweet 16 round? Assigning 31/28 and 30/29 seems to be the safe play. Take those four 8-9 seeds and assign them 46, 47, 48, 49 and be aggressive. Four 8-9 games would net a max of 122(28,29,30,31) if all of the teams win or man up and hit 2 or 3 of those same game at 47,48 and get near 100 or if you hit all of the an amount of damn near 200. Risk versus reward. You should only get points for 1 round anyway.

[seaborneq]

Done. I went all or nothing on the 7-10, and 8-9 games. I win or lose by the sweet 16. No need in sweating it out.

[seaborneq]

The approach I take is first I fill out a straight bracket with no upset bonuses and then I assign the values

Why would you need to fill out a no upset bracket to assign values? How does that factor in with assigning points? If you think New Mexico, Mich St, Ohio State or Florida are going to the final four, which would be an upset. would you not assign them 64,63,62,61 or the top amount of points?

[djefferis]

Anyone know if they are offering participants a nice one time bonus this year (50 or 100 percent cash reload).

2 years ago they did, can't recall last year.

[LT Profits]

Why would you need to fill out a no upset bracket to assign values? How does that factor in with assigning points? If you think New Mexico, Mich St, Ohio State or Florida are going to the final four, which would be an upset. would you not assign them 64,63,62,61 or the top amount of points?

Because upset brackets are value based and "straight" brackets are based on who you actually think will win. The latter is what I want as I use the exact same process others described. The most time consuming part is assigning probabilities to the Round of 64 losers.

[LT Profits]

Because upset brackets are value based and "straight" brackets are based on who you actually think will win. The latter is what I want as I use the exact same process others described. The most time consuming part is assigning probabilities to the Round of 64 losers.

And I still have enough upsets in the straight bracket to prevent it from being chalky.

[BigDeem5]

If Miami ships it over Louisville I win

[seaborneq]

If Miami ships it over Louisville I win

Uh uh deem. It's not just about picking the championship game and winner. By that round every body gets 60+ points during that round.

[BigDeem5]

Uh uh deem. It's not just about picking the championship game and winner. By that round every body gets 60+ points during that round.

Not if your final two aren't in.

[seaborneq]

You could be down two hundred points by thenand it still won't matter.

[seaborneq]

Not if your final two aren't in.

Your final two get 64 and 63. The average points for louisville is going to be 62.5, and Miami will probably average 55. You would make up or gain at most 8 or 9 points even if Miami wins. Remember EVERYBODY gets points when miami and louisville win.

[seaborneq]

The current leader assigned Wichita State a 60. Kind of working with my strategy except I said high 40's low 50's. Get those points because you can't lose those points in the end. 60 versus 30 makes a difference in this contest.

[yisman]

The current leader assigned Wichita State a 60. Kind of working with my strategy except I said high 40's low 50's. Get those points because you can't lose those points in the end. 60 versus 30 makes a difference in this contest.

giving wichita state a 60 is a terrible strategy

I can promise you the current leader won't finish in the top 50

[seaborneq]

[QUOTE=yisman;18169870]giving wichita state a 60 is a terrible strategy

I can promise you the current leader won't finish in the top 50[/QUOT

What would be the optimum assignment for Wich State? 30-35?

[seaborneq]

giving wichita state a 60 is a terrible strategy

I can promise you the current leader won't finish in the top 50

50th place is good for 750 dollars. Not bad for giving wich st a 60.

[yisman]

What would be the optimum assignment for Wich State? 30-35?

33-38 if you had them winning. 28-32 if you had them losing. Not above 40 regardless.

50th place is good for 750 dollars. Not bad for giving wich st a 60.

Sure, I'd love 50th. But I said he won't finish in the top 50.

Additionally, it's freeplays, not cash.

[TheCentaur]

How do you view your completed and updated bracket there? Whenever I try it just takes me to the home betting page

[seaborneq]

How do you view your completed and updated bracket there? Whenever I try it just takes me to the home betting page

Go inside the contest and click on view contest.

[seaborneq]

33-38 if you had them winning. 28-32 if you had them losing. Not above 40 regardless.



Sure, I'd love 50th. But I said he won't finish in the top 50.

Additionally, it's freeplays, not cash.

You sure are poo pooing 750 freeplays. I know that last year one of the hardest things to do was to climb the standings after the first weekend. I was in the 160's early and despite having good safe picks I made it to the mid 70's and eventually finished in the low 100's

[yisman]

You sure are poo pooing 750 freeplays. I know that last year one of the hardest things to do was to climb the standings after the first weekend. I was in the 160's early and despite having good safe picks I made it to the mid 70's and eventually finished in the low 100's

Not the point. Watch what I said. The guy who put 60 on wichita state won't finish top 50. I don't know whether you'll climb or not, but he'll fall a lot