1. 11-28-12 10:30 AM #1
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    Books seem convinced that Michigan State is going to lose to Miami

    I don't get it.

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  2. 11-28-12 10:33 AM #2
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    That Harris kid that you were in love with is OUT. lol
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  3. 11-28-12 10:39 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    That Harris kid that you were in love with is OUT. lol
    Is he out for sure?

    In any event, I'm not sure how Miami can match up with MSU underneath. Plus, it's not like the Hurricanes have a big homecourt advantage.
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  4. 11-28-12 10:42 AM #4
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    Michigan State is like a box of chocolates...

    Ya never know what your gonna get.

    They burn me when i bet on them and burn me when i bet against them.

    Kinda like the Yankees for me in MLB
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  5. 11-28-12 11:09 AM #5
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    Even if Harris does play, I'd be surprised if he gets that much time...State hardly ever is a high flying team to start the season. Generally a good idea to lay off of them.

    I mean...I don't think Miami is all that impressive but aside from the Kansas game, State hasn't exactly looked comforting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis View Post
    Even if Harris does play, I'd be surprised if he gets that much time...State hardly ever is a high flying team to start the season. Generally a good idea to lay off of them.

    I mean...I don't think Miami is all that impressive but aside from the Kansas game, State hasn't exactly looked comforting.
    Yes and Miami has looked unstoppable?
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  7. 11-28-12 11:34 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Is he out for sure?

    In any event, I'm not sure how Miami can match up with MSU underneath. Plus, it's not like the Hurricanes have a big homecourt advantage.
    Haha matchup underneath? Miami has a good frontcourt.

    Michigan State isn't that great. They are almost always a good early season fade.
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  8. 11-28-12 12:53 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Haha matchup underneath? Miami has a good frontcourt.

    Michigan State isn't that great. They are almost always a good early season fade.
    Didn't say they were "great," but you generally don't have to be great to beat Miami. It's not like they're playing at Duke.
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  9. 11-28-12 12:53 PM #9
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    Getting Trice back should help with there turnover problems he is really there only true PG. Line is a reflection of there early season struggles agaisnt Boise, Oakland and ULL at home. They have been a turnover machine. They will get better though. Everything I have heard/read makes me think there's no way Harris plays. Don't think Izzo will chance his health for one game that honestly doesn't really mean much at this part of season. Plus I am sure he believes they have good shot of winning this game without him anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT WINGS View Post
    Getting Trice back should help with there turnover problems he is really there only true PG. Line is a reflection of there early season struggles agaisnt Boise, Oakland and ULL at home. They have been a turnover machine. They will get better though. Everything I have heard/read makes me think there's no way Harris plays. Don't think Izzo will chance his health for one game that honestly doesn't really mean much at this part of season. Plus I am sure he believes they have good shot of winning this game without him anyways.
    MSU has and always will struggle with turnovers. More a product of their style of play than anything else.

    I'm more concerned with their lack of perimeter shooting aside from Appling. They have no one that can score the ball from deep.
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    Also Miami did loose to Florida gulf coast, but that was without Scott I believe
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    MSU has and always will struggle with turnovers. More a product of their style of play than anything else.

    I'm more concerned with their lack of perimeter shooting aside from Appling. They have no one that can score the ball from deep.
    Yeah that's the problem if they play against a good zone they struggled make perimeter shots. Trice is alright shooter though. Dawson and Payne can hit mid range, but yeah that is where they miss Harris the most. Byrd is suppose to be a shooter but haven't been impressed with him at all
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  13. 11-28-12 01:01 PM #13
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    Line makes no sense no matter how u look at it. I cautiously took msu +3 last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Didn't say they were "great," but you generally don't have to be great to beat Miami. It's not like they're playing at Duke.
    Never said you said they were great. I said they weren't great.
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    GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN.

    Michigan St is a good team

    Miami isnt a good team

    simple as that
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  16. 11-28-12 03:37 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeOverUnder View Post
    GOOD TEAMS FIND WAYS TO WIN.

    Michigan St is a good team

    Miami isnt a good team

    simple as that
    If only it were
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Never said you said they were great. I said they weren't great.
    And I'm saying you don't have to be great to win at Miami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT WINGS View Post
    Byrd is suppose to be a shooter but haven't been impressed with him at all
    Lost cause.
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  19. 11-28-12 04:26 PM #19
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    Other then the line what else gives you this thought? Last year same time period indiana was a better team then ncstate and they were +1.5 i believe
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    Miami has better players, also do not forget Larranaga took George Mason to the final four this team has a chance to do the same.
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    Miami did not have a very good start to the year but the first game Durand Scott was back form suspension was a blowout win over a solid Detroit team. Miami is balanced if you ask a Miami fan who if their best player might get 4 different answers, possibly 3 NBA players on the team and fat boy Reggie Johnson is a good college player though too slow to play in the league.
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    michigan state is a bubble team
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    MSU wont miss the tourney I like both of these teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    And I'm saying you don't have to be great to win at Miami.
    Obviously. Otherwise only Indiana could win at Miami.
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  25. 11-28-12 05:51 PM #25
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    Gary Harris is playing.

    Changes a lot of things.
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  26. 11-28-12 06:50 PM #26
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    I took MSU ML & Harris was ruled out--I turn on the Game & there he is in the lineup--I feel even better about my choice now.
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    Mia is terrible, another line the books were a mile off.
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    MSU 31-27 MIA Halftime
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Mia is terrible, another line the books were a mile off.
    MIchigan St. opened the favorite and Miami closed the favorite books only set opening lines. And are trying to say MIch S.t +1 2nd half is free money? MIami can still win
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    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    MIchigan St. opened the favorite and Miami closed the favorite books only set opening lines. And are trying to say MIch S.t +1 2nd half is free money? MIami can still win
    Miami opened fav @ pinny, and Cris @-1.

    Add BetOnline opened Mia -1
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Miami opened fav @ Pinny, and CRIS @-1.

    Add BetOnline opened Mia -1
    the first line i saw on the game was Mich St. -1 at BO but maybe that was not the opener, obviosly not a huge diff. between -1 and +1
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    This is true
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    As far as I know, Miami opened -2.5 and was as high as -3 at some books.
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    I have Miami in a parlay with Charlotte, so I hope I'm wrong about them.

    being the angle shooter I am, its the old " Unranked team favored over a ranked team angle.
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