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    Pitt!!

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    20-14 +3.62x

    San Diego State +4.5 1x
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    Quote Originally Posted by CantTouchAyo View Post
    20-14 +3.62x

    San Diego State +4.5 1x
    Whoa. Some serious steam on that one, and it's a late night game. Quickly down to SD State +2.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnstorm View Post
    Whoa. Some serious steam on that one, and it's a late night game. Quickly down to SD State +2.5.
    For sure! Books must not be waiting on the Ayo trail of money to come in before the market change. Prob got some little guy in a back office hittin the refresh button on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    For sure! Books must not be waiting on the Ayo trail of money to come in before the market change. Prob got some little guy in a back office hittin the refresh button on this thread.
    That’s why less chat about it is better lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by illyTheKid View Post
    That’s why less chat about it is better lol
    money screams without ever sayin a word

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    SDSU proficient on offense.

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    ASU heating up. ASU looks like the deeper, faster team.

    I passed because I could only get +2.5. Thought I'd watch it and see. Probably gonna stay on the sidelines or maybe even go ASU.

    Some foul trouble for ASU.
    Last edited by barnstorm; 12-11-20 at 09:24 AM.

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    ASU looked like they were taking over and then SDSU went on an 18-2 run to break it open. SDSU a smart team. ASU talented but not so smart beyond Remy Martin.

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    Aztecs better than most of the 10-20 ranked teams at the moment. Well coached too

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    21-14 +4.62x

    Northeastern +6.5 1x

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    Quote Originally Posted by CantTouchAyo View Post
    21-14 +4.62x
    Northeastern +6.5 1x
    Hurry. Game tips at 1:30 EST.
    You can actually get +7 -110 at some Books.
    Last edited by barnstorm; 12-11-20 at 04:26 PM.

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    I play a few football teasers from time to time and thought I would look into what might be the most advantageous 'Ayo Plays' to add to these teasers from time to time.

    YTD Ayo is:
    8-2 on dawgs at +7 or less
    14-5 on sides of 7 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 74%
    9-4 on sides of 3 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 69%

    Small sample size and was just looking for an option for some of these teaser slots.

    Since my teasers are usually only for 5 hoop points, was lookin for the safest possible plays since I don't play a large volume of teasers. What may be more important though is how far off the losses/wins were from the spread.

    Regardless, I still play the double digit Ayo plays for the same amount as the smaller lines in terms of straight plays - and think they will hold just as much value since the season is still early and things change throughout the season.

    .
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    Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
    The beauty about betting is you can bet whoever and however you want. Let the guy do what he wants and move on, my guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
    58%. Still good, but nobody hits 70%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
    My statement is misleading....certainly not trying to improve on the GOAT. Basically have several two team teasers that most of the time I used for football (7 points)....however, they also allow for 5 basketball points. Just off the top of my head it seemed like Ayo was actually outright winning on the small dawgs - therefore, I thought those might be the best plays to use for these teasers since I can't put every Ayo play into a teaser. Stats change throughout the year. Ayo always on fire early. The best hands down.

    I play every Ayo pick at a flat 10% of my season starting bankroll regardless of the line. Then I have a few teasers

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    nothing wrong with that, best of luck

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    Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

    illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

    Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

    illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

    Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.
    Same! Good luck buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

    illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

    Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.
    No worries pal. I'm more than fine with the 57% or so that Ayo provides year in and out....

    was just thinkin out loud over a pint of damson berry shine earlier

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    Damn that sounds good. I'm about to pick up dinner and have a glass of zacapa (real good rum from Guatemala).

    Cheers!


    Lots of love for Iowa and Nevada tonight. Let's see if Ayo puts out either side (or opposite)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    I play a few football teasers from time to time and thought I would look into what might be the most advantageous 'Ayo Plays' to add to these teasers from time to time.
    YTD Ayo is:
    8-2 on dawgs at +7 or less
    14-5 on sides of 7 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 74%
    9-4 on sides of 3 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 69%

    Small sample size and was just looking for an option for some of these teaser slots.

    Since my teasers are usually only for 5 hoop points, was lookin for the safest possible plays since I don't play a large volume of teasers. What may be more important though is how far off the losses/wins were from the spread.

    Regardless, I still play the double digit Ayo plays for the same amount as the smaller lines in terms of straight plays - and think they will hold just as much value since the season is still early and things change throughout the season.

    .
    Meaninglessness due to the small sample as you correctly mentioned.

    Now go do the real leg work, and back test your theory by manually combing the thread and getting the figures for the entire past three seasons. Let me know when you’re done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mako-SBR View Post
    Meaninglessness due to the small sample as you correctly mentioned.

    Now go do the real leg work, and back test your theory by manually combing the thread and getting the figures for the entire past three seasons. Let me know when you’re done.
    No real theory - hence my statement of small sample size....we're in the same boat.

    I actually started off looking into the last 5 Novembers and downshifted into this season only. Was really looking at an angle of dawgs winning outright early in the season

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    On to the next

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    Iowa by 20+
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    21-15 +3.52x

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    1x each. GL

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    GL Ayo! Hope you have a big day my friend!

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    Belmont steaming to -7.

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    ​Gardner Webb +14 1x

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    Quote Originally Posted by CantTouchAyo View Post
    ​Gardner Webb +14 1x
    Gardner Webb was definitely at +14 when Ayo posted at 11:21 AM. By 11:48, it was down to +13.5 and at 11:51 it was down to +13.

    There are more than just us guys here on SBR following Ayo. Somebody with some deep pockets, or maybe even some syndicates, are jumping on his picks. Or maybe it is just a lot of little guys like us and maybe his picks are being broadcast to other forums.

    GL!

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    How much money do you think is needed to move a line is the real question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveofsports View Post
    How much money do you think is needed to move a line is the real question?
    depends.


    offshore? not much. but at a casino or a sportsbook its takes quite a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnstorm View Post
    Gardner Webb was definitely at +14 when Ayo posted at 11:21 AM. By 11:48, it was down to +13.5 and at 11:51 it was down to +13.

    There are more than just us guys here on SBR following Ayo. Somebody with some deep pockets, or maybe even some syndicates, are jumping on his picks. Or maybe it is just a lot of little guys like us and maybe his picks are being broadcast to other forums.

    GL!
    Could be but, tbh, idk. As humans, we like to find patterns so while the Ayo moving markets theory could have merit, I think it has more to do with Ayo catching onto an edge a little bit sooner (even if just by minutes) than everyone else.

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    A one point cover! IUPUI hit two free throws to go up 3 with 5 seconds to go and didn't foul and Tenny State missed their 3 point attempt!

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