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Ohh yes they do. Not only do they deserve the crap team they deserve Amare to go down for ohh about a year with another knee injury. Matter of fact, i'd give +110 odds its gonna happen before that massive contract is out. Ohh and Isiah is gonna be back in some official capacity, maybe not a GM but he will be associated with the Knicks.Originally Posted by newjerseydevils
nets and Denver definitely got the better parts of that trade. Knicks need some defense
Denver is actually a threat to win the western conference now that Anthony is gone. They are the deepest team in the NBA. And they are winning lately with their best offensive threat out.
they lost a lot of pieces in the trade.
Interesting point there
They sure look fukkin good
Knicks head coach also is very non competitive
They need a tough guy type
without this they will never win, period end of the story.
Denver is a better team bc they are playing team ball...I hope the Knicks and the Heat never win a champoinship ever!!
They are poor defensively but they know this and can get better. Knowing is half the battle. It's not like we actually recognize something that these NBA coaches don't . With that said, lets see how they're playing come playoffs. Remember the Heat started out 9-8 and had problems playing as a team initially. Now they're one of the top teams in the NBA and can beat any team by 30 on any given night.
Knicks will become better over time. However Melo makes their defense even worse, and they already could score 100+ any given night. They need to become more defensive minded, and grab a center. Maybe then they will be a contender.
Usually I would say its the regular season and as long as you make the playoffs with 2 big guns you never know what will happen.
But if we can lose back to back to Pacers, one of the worst teams in the league, and last night we had many chances and all we did wa snot capitalize.
Its just going to be one of those teams where each guy has his nights that make him look like a great player, but it just wont come together.
Turnovers by billups and then amare were very costly. To my bank roll as well!!
Felton is a toilet thats what he will add up to....the Knicks have the base this year doesnt matter next year the will add CP3 then it's a different team
You cannot win with a guy like Anthony and Stoudemire because they make no one better
If you look at Deron Williams he can make HS kids look good
It will have to be someone that can live without the ball, because Carmelo is a ball hog like Jordan. The difference is that it was well earned and justified with Jordan, since Jordan would also dish out assists, and make the rest of the team better. All this kid does is want to score, even if it means scoring 35pts on 32% shooting.
not enough shots 2 go around
No the regular season doesn't mean shit I have always said that. Run along and take your bulls future to win the east since neither Boston or the Heat won't be in the finals
And the knicks have no shot to win the east. Your the one who thinks the heat beating la in the reg season means so much.
that's no surprise. New York won't even reach the conference finals in the next 2 or 3 years.
making jump shots is not enough to be recognized as of one of the best players in the league. melo is overrated.
When will Mike D'Antoni be held accountable. This is the same bullshit he did in phoenix. Lets try and score 120 points and then defense doesnt matter. Well guess what pal? You lose 124-120 more than any coach in the history of the game. If you break 100 you should beat a team every time. EVERY ******* TIME.
DAtoni is to defense as Wilt Chamberlain is to not banging at least 4 different chicks a week!
they will be much better in the long term, forget this season....
worse thing is the ticket price is increase more than double from this year.
Two season-ticket holders who have sat behind the Knicks bench for 40 years have learned their two seats have skyrocketed 173 percent -- from $330 a pop to $900 a pop. Hence, their package of two season-tickets their family has owned will increase more than $50,000, from $29,040 to $79,300. That increase comes with the bonus of free food and non-alcoholic drinks
thats how i see it too no hustle
Denver is NO threat to win the western conference. In the playoffs, star power wins.. No star power usually means no deep runs..
And being deep is highly overrated in the playoffs as teams are not running through their bench in those intense games. Being deep is mostly relevant during the regular season and if a team is dealing with major injuries..
Great Storyline:
2 Ball hogs - Add a Point Guard like Steve Nash, score, and don't play defense:
"Phoenix Suns East" - A Spike Lee Joint
Last edited by VegasPlayer; 03-16-11 at 12:19 PM.
Players like Carmelo Anthony don't win championships. There is more to playing than just leading the league in scoring.
The only NBA future I took was heat under 63.5 wins. That one cashed at +140.No the regular season doesn't mean shit I have always said that. Run along and take your bulls future to win the east since neither Boston or the Heat won't be in the finals
good job. You might think your little trends will show you what will happen this year in the playoffs but the Bulls won't be doing anything in the playoffs. In fact they will not get out of the second round.
The only NBA future I took was heat under 63.5 wins. That one cashed at +140.
i never said anything about the bulls. why do you keep harping on that?
Because you mentioned Miami and Boston are both not coming out of the East. You said LA won't play Boston in the finals "because it doesn't work that way" and changed your mind over the past couple weeks suggesting that miami won't get out of the east.
If Boston, Miami, Chicago, and the Knicks are all not gonna win the east, who do you believe the lakers will face in the finals? The Magic?
The sixers.
thank you nostradamus.
Hey, maybe the Heat will win the ECF, they're only 2-9 against the leagues top teams, they can turn it all around.
You forgot about Howard.
Gotta love stupid knick homer dreams.
Way to go...ny!!!!!
They seemed to lose on two fronts
denver pulled off deal of fukkin year
nets get stud in williams and of course the better all around player
denver is playing better without anthony
That depends on what you mean by the leagues top teams. Taking the top 4 from each conference makes a big difference in the numbers....
thank you nostradamus.
Hey, maybe the Heat will win the ECF, they're only 2-9 against the leagues top teams, they can turn it all around.
The thing is, you dont have to be a winner to be loved. Look all the great, legendary players over the last 20 years that didn't win anything. There is always the excuse, ohh they didn't win cause Jordan won everything in the 90s, in 2000s it was the Lakers and Spurs that won everything.
DAntoni will ever win a title but he'll always find a place to work. His teams will be competitive and exciting to watch which is gonna sell tickets and ultimately that matters way more then any championship.
There is really no reason to hold him accountable because what he does is good enough. Especially for NY. That franchise is a god damn joke. They talk about themselves as if they are one of the top franchises in the league along the lines of the Lakers, Celtics and Bulls when in reality they are not even close to the Sixers.
I bet you now Knick fan knows that their overall franchise history record is UNDER 500. Thats right, the Knicks are historically a losing team (or they were going into the season, doubt the 4 games over 500 this year changed anything). 90% of fans that saw them win a title are freaking dead it was so long ago. But NY still has its legends, John Starks, Oakley, Allen Houston, Ewing. When its all done Amare and Melo will be looked at the same way, instead of the Jordan excuse they will have the Rose excuse, or the Lebron excuse or whatever. And its ok, NY is not the only place there are plenty of legendary players that played on great teams and never won anything, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Reggie Miller. Gary Payton had to chase a ring down and there are many more example of guys like this.
So its OK that NY wont ever win a title with Amare and Melo. They will be competitive, they will have some great play-off battles, they will have some memorable games. And thats gonna be enough to keep everyone happy.
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