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Only guys you could argue are the ones on the best teams... so Fisher, Parker, Kidd, and Arroyo/Chalmers/whoever starts for the Heat. Not sure what that has to do with this though? Rondo takes a lot of pressure off his aging teammates.. Ray is the only veteran who can run all game long. Pierce and KG are awesome, don't get me wrong, but they don't move without the ball very much until Rondo opens something up for themOriginally Posted by sanchez
Jason Kidd in his early years made you cringe when he took jumpers, more go in now but I still cringe because it isnt pretty. Kidd was everything you asked of a point guard the first minute he stepped on the floor, didnt matter if he couldnt shoot well.
But what could Rondo do on a bad team without 3 All Stars surrounding him?
I agree hes vital to the Celtics. But I argue that hes a good player compared to the rest of the league, not a great player.
Honestly, I think his assists would go up. If he was playing with worse players, the opposing defenses wouldn't stick as close to Rondos teammates as they do now (Ray and Pierce, mostly), so when Rondo would drive, the D would collapse on him, leaving guys even more open than now. Obviously he would need his guys to hit some shots, but I honestly think his numbers would stay the same or get better. A few more points, more rebounds, assists more or less the same, with potential upside
first off, as a celtics fan, i can say for a fact and without bias we don't have any big men that can score...
next, it's funny you mentioned we have "unbelievable" players. Most comments i see of the celtics and their big 3 are so negative and simply bash how bad they are. For some reason kg and Pierce are two of the most hated and apparently "overrated" players in the league.
lastly, there's 5 guys that can take a final shot, and with the game on the line rondo will not be that guy. as a matter of fact, he will be the one inbounding the ball and wont even be an option, unless he can get in the paint..and i'm absolutely ok with that
pure point guards are rare this day
is this the Miami Heat forum?
Rondo is the Celtics best player. So no, he is not overrated.
Put me on a team to set up 4 HOFers and I'll fukking look pretty damn good.
well if he is overrated ,then half the guys in the league are also'trust me ,im not a rondo fan by no means cause he played dirty when he played the bulls in the playoffs and hope he doesnt win anything.but he is the backbone of boston,especially with all there core players getting old,but overrated not even close
If you think he is the best pg in the league, than yes he is overrated....
If you think the only reason he is good because of his teammates, than he is underrated....
Rondo is the 5-7th best pg in the league.
Who rates him higher then a top 5 PG?
The OP seems like a younger fan who forgets what pure point's are like. Guys who are pass first, shoot second.
The recent trend is scoring first point guards but that simply isin't what the Celtics need.
If you are talking about a pure pg then he's the 2nd or 3rd.
I don't know...sometimes I think he's overrated...and then I think he's underrated...he definitely can't shoot though and has a great team around him
Or Kirilenko, Millsap and Raja Bell
I'd love to see him set up plays for Okafor, Ariza and Belinelli
Name who you think is best, then we can compare stats....
Rondo is such a good passer that he makes everyone around him better. If you put Rondo on the Knicks, they would be much better. His job is to give it to the big 3 in the spots where they can do the most with it. He is the master at that. If Rondo was ever on the heat, they would be unstoppable. Pointing to just shooting % isn't looking at the games and you can see how his game is growing.
If you are just looking at his stats as someone who lives in Atlanta and doesn't watch his games, I could see where you would say he is not growing his offensive game. His Jump shot is leaps and bounds better than last year. His 1st year he took almost no outside shots. 2 years ago his outside shots were only if the shot clock was winding down. Last year he took foul line jumpers and in. This year I have seen him not hesitate to take 20 footers with 15 seconds left on the clock and he has hit some. His offensive game is growing slowly. He has 1 maybe 2 more years tops to get his outside game down. That is the time frame the big 3 has left. No doubt his free throw shooting is abysmal and that has to improve. The amount of triple doubles he has had though is proof positive that he is one of the better point guards in the NBA.
Scoring isn't everything. In fact if you look at the history of the Celtics, scoring from the point guard has never been a priority. Cousy all the way down to Rondo the Point guard has been a passing position more than a scoring one. That is just the way the Celtics play.
Last edited by soxwin; 02-14-11 at 12:17 PM. Reason: spelling
he is the mark sanchez of PGs. he is only a caretaker and doesn't have great skill.
chris paul, steve nash, deron williams, raymond felton, derrick rose, russell westbrook are all better.
oh and lebron james.
Last edited by antifoil; 02-14-11 at 12:17 PM.
soxwin
No they WOULDN'T. On the Knicks you gotta be able to hit long jump shots and be able to drive and shoot FT's. I highly doubt a player with a 31% avg from 3-pt land and 56% FT shooting would fit in the knicks.
Why is Raymond Felton on this list? Joke post?
You've just been Rondoed!
Rajon Rondo in my eyes is the best defensive point guard in the league. He will mark any Point guard in the NBA today and he will get all up in your face. He is doing what he is suppose to do on the Boston team : Make assists when he has to and shoot from 10 ft and under range and run the flucking game. He is the man, Rajon Rondo is underrated.
no i make my decisions on who i would want on my fantasy team and those are the names i would take over rondo. steph curry too.
And what player assists his teammates at this goal better than Rondo?
11-12-12
Rondo had 20 points, nine rebounds and 10 assists to lead the Boston Celtics to a 101-95 win over the Chicago Bulls on Monday night. He stretched his streak of consecutive games with 10 or more assists to 31, the longest in the NBA since John Stockton had 37 straight from Feb. 27 to Nov. 29, 1989.
Rondo is unreal. One of the best if not the best pg in all of basketball. He has improved tremendously over the last 5 years.
rondo is the best deal in the NBA. under 10 million a year for tthe best defensive PG in the league, the guy is a huge threat offensively if he wants to be.
He isn't the best defensively in my opinion. He's really only a steals guy. He gambles a lot and is not really that great 1 on 1. Very similar defensive player to Allen Iverson. I'd put Chris Paul ahead of him on the defensive end, also Mike Connoly. But yeah arguably top 3 defensive pg for sure. Feel like i'm forgetting someone too.
Nice to see some sense in this thread. Rondo over-rated? Give me a break.
@soxwin Add some triples in that list. He's knocked down a few this season. I love that it's so blatant he is so eager to improve his game to become a complete player. If he can develop a consistently good jump shot then he will be the best PG in the league, no doubt.
Think about Rondo on OKC with both Durant and Harden.
The TEAM would be better served.
To me , Westbrook is the overrated one.
I think even Perkins would get a couple buckets a game.
Em....
Dude, I understand Hardens already gone, I was just stating an opinion.
I also believe, Rondo would be a better fit on more teams than Westbrook.
If we polled all GMs, my guess is 2/3 would take the playmaker vs. the more talented primadonna.
He is the only guy on the planet that thinks he is better than Durant.
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