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    Championships are a TEAM accomplishment, not individual

    To argue otherwise is to say that Adam Morrison is better than LeBron James. Use your heads and don't take the lazy way out in analyzing player skill.

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    what are you smoking? adam morrison didn't even leave the bench for 1 second, we're talking about the star players here who has a major role in their team's success

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    if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobefanatic View Post
    if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?
    i dont think they will win it this year.
    their isnt enuff quality out there to fill out the roster
    whos gonna deal with guys like howard, rondo, ray allen ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    i dont think they will win it this year.
    their isnt enuff quality out there to fill out the roster
    whos gonna deal with guys like howard, rondo, ray allen ??
    no one but most people are already talking about them being the champions, i think boston will beat them in the eastern conference finals, it's easier to deal with orlando than boston, boston is 8 deep right now, rondo, ray allen, pierce,kg, perk, jo, big baby and sheed ( assuming he comes back)

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    kobe can't win it alone /

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    You are right. Kobe has lot's of help. All champions do. But I think that's the point, The Big 3 will need some help. However with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh, they won't need much. The potential of this team is .... But I won't put them in the Championship yet. Actually I won't put any team in there yet because 3-peating is VERY VERY tough. AGE is still a factor for Boston and Miami needs to find SYNERGY with their big 3 along with the rest of their TEAM..

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    It will be an interesting season, I'm sure. This is a team sport, not a 3 player sport. Gotta make it healthy through how many games before the championship is even held.

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    I have no doubt the Heat will win multiple championships with their big 3 plus spare parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobefanatic View Post
    what are you smoking? adam morrison didn't even leave the bench for 1 second, we're talking about the star players here who has a major role in their team's success
    Wtf? Don't bullshit your way around the topic. Either rings count as a measure of skill or they don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobefanatic View Post
    if lebron didn't win it this year along with wade and bosh what would your excuse be?
    Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?

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    thats what the book says.. but I think its also an individual accomplishment also!

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    just watch...lebron will lead the heats to a championship.

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    silence. Lebron doesn't lead anyone. Lebron is led. He doesn't lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    To argue otherwise is to say that Adam Morrison is better than LeBron James. Use your heads and don't take the lazy way out in analyzing player skill.
    What is your point? These guys aren't 23 year old guys coming together that have been in the league for 2 years and don't know what it takes to win. This isn't fukkin Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo coming together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Wtf? Don't bullshit your way around the topic. Either rings count as a measure of skill or they don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    what? how can you compare adam morrison to lebron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?
    , vegas thinks they will

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    Rings aren't everything in comparing players, but they're definitely something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Not too surprised, considering odds are they won't?

    Heat are +184 at pinny and +185 at the greek. The lakers are second faves at +305 and orlando is a distant 3rd at +1215.

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    Heat won't win the East next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROfitableEnergy View Post
    Heat won't win the East next year.
    There you have it guys. He has spoken I to your feet Profit


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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Heat are +184 at pinny and +185 at the greek. The lakers are second faves at +305 and orlando is a distant 3rd at +1215.
    Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROfitableEnergy View Post
    Heat won't win the East next year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    There you have it guys. He has spoken I to your feet Profit
    I giggled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kobefanatic View Post
    what? how can you compare adam morrison to lebron?
    Anyone who says rings are a major measure of skill is, including you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tealish View Post
    Rings aren't everything in comparing players, but they're definitely something.
    They're good for people too lazy/stupid to use more objective measures. Otherwise, they can hint that a player's good in the spotlight or under pressure BEFORE you break down numbers.

    If you had to go with just one measure of skill, look at what happens to a team, or what doesn't happen, when that player's not on the court. That's not a perfect measure for several reasons, but it's way better than using championship count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Anyone who says rings are a major measure of skill is, including you.
    it can be used to measure the star players of each team not the bench players

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.
    they have the lowest odds in the sportsbooks so that means vegas is thinking they're the favorites this year, just don't give people excuses when they lose this year it will be pretty funny 2 of the top 3 best players in the same team and one of the top 15 players in the league

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    season is over

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    I still think the Lakers should be the favorite to win it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    Yes. +100> = less than likely to win championship.

    Alright got it now. So if i would make a wager on a future bet who would you recommend since every team is above +100?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post

    Alright got it now. So if i would make a wager on a future bet who would you recommend since every team is above +100?
    Take the Rockets and thank me later when they're in the Western Conference Finals.

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