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  • Snowball
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    #1
    The fix is on Dallas tonight..Roll with the corruption.
    We all know the NBA fixed last night's Suns game with a humongous free throw differential which was for the most part the margin of "victory".
    That can rarely occur and still be legit, but the fouls were not legit and the uncalled fouls discouraged the Blazers. Whoever made the big money bet in Vegas around noon moved the line, they were tipped.
    Stern was being interviewed from the stands watching one of the games a few days ago. He said something like, "coaches shouldn't complain about calls. they should feel lucky to be where they are. look at this beautiful arena, all the excitement.".. what was funny someone at ESPN said everyone should feel "lucky to be there" including the commisioner. Now that's the truth. The league is looking forward to the day that old crone retires, but he will probably do all that he can to die as commissioner.. so that he can continue to hand out to his network of beneficiaries. Fixing the NBA is fully legal. There are no laws against favoring one outcome over another through referee actions. We all know it happens. They are entertainment events solely owned by the NBA. Anyway.

    Now, tonight the big Texas Rivalry. You have the Undertaker (Spurs) trotting into the home ring of Mankind (Dallas) and their colorful owner, Mark Cuban (Classie Freddie Blassie). Mankind is down 3-1, so Undertaker "could" win the series tonight, but it is on Mankind's home turf and Mankind is due to employ commanding headlocks. Last game, he broke (Ginobili) Undertaker's nose, adding to the drama. Commisioner Stern (Vince McMahon) would like to see another sold-out "beautiful arena" back in San Antonio, and the only way to do that is put it through the channels and arrange refs that have no problems giving Mankind some favorable whistles. After all, referees are also "lucky to be there".

    Result: Mankind wins, Classie Freddie Blassie is happy, Mankind's minions feel sated and will bring the feet and wallets back for next season, and it's good for the economy.

    Tonight's Refs:
    Monty McCutchen. Last 10 games with Dallas, 9 wins, 1 loss.
    Pat Fraher. Last 10 games with Dallas, 8 wins, 2 losses.
    Greg Willard. Last 10 games with Dallas, 6 wins, 4 losses.
    Dallas's record with this combined officiating crew (the games go back to 2008)
    23 wins, 7 losses.
    Take a look at the 7 losses, blowouts where refs couldn't help enough.
    covers.com/pageLoader/pag...eferees_6.html
    Last edited by Snowball; 04-27-10, 12:49 PM.
  • Riff Raff
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    #2
    wow. thats quite a unique write up. thks it went down well with my am coffee. I hope you are right man and I will be happy as heck. Thks for sharing your opinions
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    • lyon804
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      • 11-02-09
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      #3
      Yea, not going to disagree with you Snowball about shit going on in the NBA. I would tread lightly with the Mavs however. If the NBA has this vast power and they do...to fix games why do they never help Dallas?? I mean Dallas never goes anywere right? You know there playoff record, right? or there history? I think the NBA does not like Dallas... Anyways. Danny Crawford has worked 18 Dallas playoff games since Cuban has owned the Mavs in that time Dallas is 2-16 S/U in games reffed by him. He is not reffing tonite in Dallas however. Why does the NBA want to show favoritism now to the Mavs? I think the NBA was trying to help the Bobcats yesterday but they were so louzy iy didn't matter.
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      • Snowball
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        #4
        Tonight's Refs:
        Monty McCutchen. Last 10 games with Dallas, 9 wins, 1 loss.
        Pat Fraher. Last 10 games with Dallas, 8 wins, 2 losses.
        Greg Willard. Last 10 games with Dallas, 6 wins, 4 losses.

        Dallas's record with this combined officiating crew (the games go back to 2008)
        23 wins, 7 losses.

        hmm.. so why was this crew chosen ? Cuz it's rigged to favor Dallas.

        Take a look at the 7 losses, blowouts where refs couldn't help enough.

        covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/matchups/g5_referees_6.html
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        • lyon804
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          #5
          Originally posted by Snowball
          Tonight's Refs:
          Monty McCutchen. Last 10 games with Dallas, 9 wins, 1 loss.
          Pat Fraher. Last 10 games with Dallas, 8 wins, 2 losses.
          Greg Willard. Last 10 games with Dallas, 6 wins, 4 losses.

          Dallas's record with this combined officiating crew (the games go back to 2008)
          23 wins, 7 losses.

          hmm.. so why was this crew chosen ? Cuz it's rigged to favor Dallas.

          Take a look at the 7 losses, blowouts where refs couldn't help enough.

          covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/matchups/g5_referees_6.html




          Your right..it sure looks that way. If this is close Dallas will win tonite. It's like last nite.. Fortuntately, I had Suns but I could tell it wasn't in the cards for Blazers. It was decided before tip and if the Suns didn't just shit the bed they were going to win. What is embarrasing is when the refs are helping and it still doesn't work like last nite with Charlotte.. They tried to help Bobcats, but Bobcats were outmatched and played too bad.
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          • msully2888
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            #6
            dallas wins tnite but i dont think they have 3 in a row inside
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            • lyon804
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              #7
              Snowball, was the fix in the other day when your beloved Celts lost to Miami? I am not disagreeing with you I am curious. I did not get to watch the game live but based on what I could tell by my phone all of a sudden the Celts just shit the bed.
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              • shoebox
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                #8
                Man up and take your losses and move forward, nothing you can do if a "fix" was in. Stop this shit already and stop pointing fingers
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                • Snowball
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lyon804
                  Your right..it sure looks that way. If this is close Dallas will win tonite. It's like last nite.. Fortuntately, I had Suns but I could tell it wasn't in the cards for Blazers. It was decided before tip and if the Suns didn't just shit the bed they were going to win. What is embarrasing is when the refs are helping and it still doesn't work like last nite with Charlotte.. They tried to help Bobcats, but Bobcats were outmatched and played too bad.
                  Yes, unfortunately I felt somewhat fatalistic last night and went with Portland in the 2 half anyway, in face of the evidence, in the first half the FT differential was 17-6 in favor of Phoenix. Portland cut the lead down to 6 before the refs stepped in very hard and handed the game to Phoenix officially. The announcers knew it, and said so in a manner to not jeopardize their jobs.
                  From what I've seen, the early playoff games were not fixed, last night with Phoenix and Charlotte we saw the first examples of true favoritism. They don't have to fix most of the games, just enough to make some extra bucks in a handful more games, as you know the only desired result is to keep the series going longer and make more money, and save face for some organizations because keeping the fan base is critical.
                  Dallas can of course win this game legitimately and we may not see any blatant favoritism, but at least we know by taking Dallas we will NOT be on the wrong side of the fix.
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                  • Snowball
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyon804
                    Snowball, was the fix in the other day when your beloved Celts lost to Miami? I am not disagreeing with you I am curious. I did not get to watch the game live but based on what I could tell by my phone all of a sudden the Celts just shit the bed.
                    Absolutely not. That's one of the reasons I went Portland. We hadn't seen any fixed games yet this playoff season. Last night's two were the first. Like you said it didn't matter with Charlotte they just weren't good enough to make it work, but the Suns were.
                    Celtics are more hip to the referees fixing games than any other organization today. Rivers has complained, Wallace has complained many times, Tommy Heinsohn and even Danny Ainge. I don't know why no Celtics games in this series have been fixed.. but no, the Celtics just came out flat and after re-taking the lead, Wade was hot as a firecracker and C's missed 5 FT's in a row at the end plus Rondo's missed layup.
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                    • lakerboy
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Snowball
                      Absolutely not. That's one of the reasons I went Portland. We hadn't seen any fixed games yet this playoff season. Last night's two were the first. Like you said it didn't matter with Charlotte they just weren't good enough to make it work, but the Suns were.
                      Celtics are more hip to the referees fixing games than any other organization today. Rivers has complained, Wallace has complained many times, Tommy Heinsohn and even Danny Ainge. I don't know why no Celtics games in this series have been fixed.. but no, the Celtics just came out flat and after re-taking the lead, Wade was hot as a firecracker and C's missed 5 FT's in a row at the end plus Rondo's missed layup.

                      The total going over in game 3 in milwaukee was completely rigged.
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                      • lyon804
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Snowball
                        Yes, unfortunately I felt somewhat fatalistic last night and went with Portland in the 2 half anyway, in face of the evidence, in the first half the FT differential was 17-6 in favor of Phoenix. Portland cut the lead down to 6 before the refs stepped in very hard and handed the game to Phoenix officially. The announcers knew it, and said so in a manner to not jeopardize their jobs.
                        From what I've seen, the early playoff games were not fixed, last night with Phoenix and Charlotte we saw the first examples of true favoritism. They don't have to fix most of the games, just enough to make some extra bucks in a handful more games, as you know the only desired result is to keep the series going longer and make more money, and save face for some organizations because keeping the fan base is critical.
                        Dallas can of course win this game legitimately and we may not see any blatant favoritism, but at least we know by taking Dallas we will NOT be on the wrong side of the fix.



                        I couldn't agree more. They really wanted to help Charlotte because of MJ staking his name and money to that money burning/failed operation in Charlotte, but it wasn't to be.Orlando was just to good. They called tick tack shit on Orlando all nite but it wasn't enough. Bobcats were a joke of a team and played worse than they were.
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                        • WIZARDOFBEANTOWN
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyon804
                          Snowball, was the fix in the other day when your beloved Celts lost to Miami? I am not disagreeing with you I am curious. I did not get to watch the game live but based on what I could tell by my phone all of a sudden the Celts just shit the bed.
                          well at the end ray allen missed 3 free throws in a row and kg missed a few after coming back from14 down. snowball i'm w/ ya great write up thanks matteo

                          even the announcers said it had been a very long time since ray allen missed three ft in a row
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                          • Snowball
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                            The total going over in game 3 in milwaukee was completely rigged.
                            i was only talking about sides..

                            do you think point total fixes are an end-in-themselves, or the indirect result of refs clamping down on the game to favor one team ? Atlanta was horrible that game, but that game may have been fixed too, especially being @ Milwaukee down 0-2.. it just didn't get close enough to matter. That sure was a suspicious blowout for Milwaukee. so now we have 3 confirmed fixes in the last week. They only stick their neck out when necessary.
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                            • wrongturn
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                              #15
                              So that means even with fix intention, the result is not guaranteed. We need to keep that in mind so we don't go overboard on one bet. Even without ref helps, DAL has motivation to play extra hard considering what happened in the last game.
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                              • suicidekings
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by lyon804

                                I couldn't agree more. They really wanted to help Charlotte because of MJ staking his name and money to that money burning/failed operation in Charlotte, but it wasn't to be.Orlando was just to good. They called tick tack shit on Orlando all nite but it wasn't enough. Bobcats were a joke of a team and played worse than they were.


                                He's owned the Kittens for a month. MJ hasn't staked his reputation on anything yet... The fact that the team was going to the playoffs this season was purely a bonus for him. It would have been nice if Charlotte had avoided the sweep, but really it made no difference to the eventual outcome. The Magic were going to win the series 4-1 at worst.
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                                • newjerseydevils
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                                  #17
                                  wow nice info
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                                  • spurnam
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                                    #18
                                    It's really sad what the NBA is doing. But, I can tell why because the NFL is dominating them in viewership... The draft owned the playoff games and so it's a vicious cycle. NBA has to accept they'll never be the biggest sport once again and just let the players play.
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                                    • lyon804
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by suicidekings


                                      He's owned the Kittens for a month. MJ hasn't staked his reputation on anything yet... The fact that the team was going to the playoffs this season was purely a bonus for him. It would have been nice if Charlotte had avoided the sweep, but really it made no difference to the eventual outcome. The Magic were going to win the series 4-1 at worst.

                                      Well sure I see what you are saying but to have won 1 for the home team might have made them some more TV money and sold some more athletic apparell. I mean losing and getting swept at home and the series is not beneficial right... You will admit that
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                                      • lakerboy
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Snowball
                                        i was only talking about sides..

                                        do you think point total fixes are an end-in-themselves, or the indirect result of refs clamping down on the game to favor one team ? Atlanta was horrible that game, but that game may have been fixed too, especially being @ Milwaukee down 0-2.. it just didn't get close enough to matter. That sure was a suspicious blowout for Milwaukee. so now we have 3 confirmed fixes in the last week. They only stick their neck out when necessary.

                                        all i know is when you are losing by 20 points with 2 minutes left you have no NEED to foul. that was a despicable display in that game with 18 points in the last minute and half.

                                        nba players are always doing gestures with there eyes and hands and spend more time looking at the clock while waiting on the free throw line . it doesnt bother me that the games are rigged ( we have to find a way to be on the right side of the rig). its pretty sad for the average fan cause they go to work the next day and tell there buddies

                                        " wasnt it funny how there was like 20 fouls in the last 4 minutes" they have no idea why though
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                                        • Wilforth
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                                          #21
                                          I can't agree more with Snowball. Brilliant write-up!
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                                          • suicidekings
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lyon804

                                            Well sure I see what you are saying but to have won 1 for the home team might have made them some more TV money and sold some more athletic apparell. I mean losing and getting swept at home and the series is not beneficial right... You will admit that
                                            Oh, absolutely. However, I think that the contrast between the low expectations for the franchise at the start of the year and their ultimate finishing point in a playoff berth is a huge success story, and something to really build on next year.
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                                            • Wilforth
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                              it doesnt bother me that the games are rigged ( we have to find a way to be on the right side of the rig).
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
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                                                #24
                                                Dallas isn't going to win tonight if Rick Carlisle doesn't change his strategy. The whole strategy of trying to get Caron Butler & Shawn Marion off early backfired ... and resulted in Dirk not getting enough touches coupled with Coach Pop double teaming the F out of him. You ride your stallion from the opening tip and let him get your other guys going, you don't force feed it to your secondary players.
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                                                • suicidekings
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                  Dallas isn't going to win tonight if Rick Carlisle doesn't change his strategy. The whole strategy of trying to get Caron Butler & Shawn Marion off early backfired ... and resulted in Dirk not getting enough touches coupled with Coach Pop double teaming the F out of him. You ride your stallion from the opening tip and let him get your other guys going, you don't force feed it to your secondary players.
                                                  The only success Dallas has seen in this series has been a result of playing a faster paced game. If they slow down they get smothered by Spurs D, preventing any progress by the Dallas offense. I feel this is more the Mavs being outclassed by an experienced and prepared playoff team in the Spurs.
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
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                                                    #26
                                                    Outcoached for sure. Pace is definitely a good point. Spurs know how to grind them down though. You look at the recent history and it's pretty obvious that the Spurs think if they hold them under 100, they will win.
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                                                    • Wilforth
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                      Outcoached for sure. Pace is definitely a good point. Spurs know how to grind them down though. You look at the recent history and it's pretty obvious that the Spurs think if they hold them under 100, they will win.
                                                      That has been the key.
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                                                      • Snowball
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                                                        #28
                                                        SAN ANTONIO -- NBA commissioner David Stern has done his best Clint Eastwood, saying "make my day" when asked if he would suspend a player or coach for criticizing officials.


                                                        Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/24/2139308/mavericks-spurs-heed-nba-commissioner.html#ixzz0mKjlY1we
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                                                        • linedrivr
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                                                          #29
                                                          linedrivr gave Snowball 5 SBR Point(s) for this post.

                                                          excellent creative writeup Snowball.
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                                                          • 36mafia
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                                                            #30
                                                            excellent writeup and info
                                                            but anybody noticing the line movement on this one

                                                            mb:
                                                            04/27 12:42 +228 / -230
                                                            04/27 13:10 +202 / -220
                                                            04/27 13:13 +208 / -230

                                                            pinny:
                                                            04/27 11:00 +210 / -235
                                                            04/27 13:10 +193 / -215
                                                            04/27 13:11 +199 / -222

                                                            spurs ml getting pounded with smart money?
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                                                            • Snowball
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by linedrivr
                                                              linedrivr gave Snowball 5 SBR Point(s) for this post.

                                                              excellent creative writeup Snowball.
                                                              thank you, i put the points right on Dallas -4.5
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                                                              • Snowball
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by 36mafia
                                                                excellent writeup and info
                                                                but anybody noticing the line movement on this one

                                                                mb:
                                                                04/27 12:42 +228 / -230
                                                                04/27 13:10 +202 / -220
                                                                04/27 13:13 +208 / -230

                                                                pinny:
                                                                04/27 11:00 +210 / -235
                                                                04/27 13:10 +193 / -215
                                                                04/27 13:11 +199 / -222

                                                                spurs ml getting pounded with smart money?
                                                                nah, they just wacking it because it pays 2 to 1.
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                                                                • goldengreek
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  The total going over in game 3 in milwaukee was completely rigged.
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                                                                  • Snowball
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    HT Score: SA 46 - DAL 53
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                                                                    • wrongturn
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      no tv here, how was ref doing?
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