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    Quote Originally Posted by imotiv8 View Post
    Idk if anyone is keeping track but I believe Detroit is a V2 or V3 game tonight?
    Are there V2 and V3 for this system?

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    There is a V2 and V3 strategy but can’t get my hands on it.

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    11/02/18:

    I believe these are both official A bets. Toronto may be unofficial because they have the best record in the league. My guy doesn’t do money lines on NBA and the model says bet ML for road favorites > 3 points. Can’t imagine what that is for Toronto.

    So, I got Houston -3.5. 0.5 at 170. Toronto -11.5. -8.5 at 170.

    Good luck.

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    Toronto is an official bet. Houston is unofficial because Harden is out.

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    sacramento and toronto has 4 games away, but there was no waiting first game with sacra like you mentioned in rules

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    sitamees - not following you. We played the first game of the Sacramento out of conference road trip. We only wait if the first game is IN conference. Then you skip the first game.

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    11/02/18

    And that is why we buy the points!

    Official 4-0
    Unofficial 2-0

    Next games Nov 6. Have a great weekend!!


    Official Unofficial Win/Loss Units Total Units Line Buy Line Score Pts Buy Needed?
    10/22/2018 Washington X W Bet A 1 1 +5 +8 125-124 No
    10/25/2018 Portland X W Bet A 1 2 -3 ML 128-114 No
    10/26/2018 Golden State X W Bet A 1 3 -12 -9 128-100 No
    10/29/2018 Sacramento X W Bet A 1 4 -8 -11 123-113 No
    11/2/2018 Toronto X W Bet A 1 5 -11.5 -8.5 107-98 Yes
    11/2/2018 Houston X W Bet A 1 6 -3.5 0.5 119-111 No
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    Versions 2 & 3
    This is taken from the October 2012 pdf. The usual disclaimers apply ...

    The v1.0 system calls for one team to be on 3 consecutive road games against 3 teams of the opposite conference in order for a play to be eligible.

    Version 2:
    As long as there are at least 2 teams that are from the opposite conference out of the 3 consecutive road games, then it is enough to make the series to be profitable for play (maybe).
    Basically, everything about the v2.0 system remains the same, except for the fact a series is eligible for play as long as at least 2 out of the 3 teams are from the opposite conference, rather than requiring that ALL 3 teams must be from the opposite conference.

    Version 3:
    As long as a team is starting a 3-game road trip, it is profitable to play them regardless of what conference their opponent may be in.
    Basically, everything about the v3.0 system remains the same as the v2.0 system, except for the fact a series is eligible for play as long as it’s the start of a 3-game road trip, regardless of what conferences the opponents may be on.
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    Minnesota is a V3B bet tonight
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    I just got this:

    NBA system bet for Monday November 5th. Remember that these system bets are based on 3-game series. If the {A} bet falls, you'll need to increase your stake on the {B} wager on the same team for their next game. Same with the possible final {C} wager if the {B} bet doesn't come through:

    Boston Celtics {A} bet - This is a confirmed official betting series. Bet on the point spread and buy 3 points at no worse than -170 odds to bring the spread from +2.5 to +5.5."

    I don't think it was on the table here but I think this is a V1 system bet.


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    Good call! Typo on my sheet. My bad.

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    who we on today my guy

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    Definitely (V1) Boston Celtics A bet, and think (V3) Minnesota C Bet

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    do u like the raptors today

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    What book are you guys using?

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    Celtics weren't even on the original chart why'd u say go Celtics should a left yesterday blank penetrate oh well im just gonna go based of his chart instead of people commenting on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinmartin0123 View Post
    Celtics weren't even on the original chart why'd u say go Celtics should a left yesterday blank penetrate oh well im just gonna go based of his chart instead of people commenting on here
    If you look at #47 you'll see KoKP recognised he made a typo with his list. We all need to thank the people who sat down and calculated the bets BUT we all have a responsibility to try and make sure things are correct too. I noticed what I thought was a mistake and posted to the channel. If you blindly follow a chart you might, just might, run into problems. And sometimes a bet looks so bad it isn't worth running with. This might be because you don't expect it to win under any conditions, or because it is economically not worth while (ie odds are too distorted to make it worthwhile.)


    But at the end of the day, it's your choice what you do!

    Goodluck
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    agreed I like his bucks pick today even though its in Portland bucks playing extremely good basketball

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    Sorry guys, I blew yesterday traveling/with clients for work. Hopefully you got the Nets last night (Nov 6). Bucks were on the plate, too but they lost, so no damage done there.

    So on Thursday, Nov 8, there will be two {B} bets: Milwaukee and Boston.
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    Nov. 8:

    Boston - {B} bet -9.5 at regular odds, -6.5 at -170. Official rules say to take the ML in this situation but my book doesn't have that and it would have to be a pretty big price.

    Milwaukee - {B} bet +6 at regular odds, +9 at -170.

    Good luck!
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    B bets came through! I was worried about the Buck but apparently for no reason whatsoever. Nothing til the 11th (but check!!).

    Official Unofficial Win/Loss Units Total Units Line Buy Line Score Pts Buy Needed?
    10/22/2018 Washington X W Bet A 1 1 +5 +8 125-124 No
    10/25/2018 Portland X W Bet A 1 2 -3 ML 128-114 No
    10/26/2018 Golden State X W Bet A 1 3 -12 -9 128-100 No
    10/29/2018 Sacramento X W Bet A 1 4 -8 -11 123-113 No
    11/2/2018 Toronto X W Bet A 1 5 -11.5 -8.5 107-98 Yes
    11/2/2018 Houston X W Bet A 1 6 -3.5 0.5 119-111 No
    11/5/2018 Boston X W Bet B 1 7 -9.5 -6.5 116-109 Yes
    11/6/2018 Brooklyn X W Bet A 1 8 -2 1 104-82 No
    11/6/2018 Milwaukee X W Bet B 1 9 +6 9 134-111 No
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    Sundays "JM" bet:

    Atlanta {A} bet - This is a confirmed official betting series. Bet on the point spread and buy 3 points at no worse than -170 odds to bring the spread from +11.5 to +14.5. Buying 2 points at no worse than -150 odds is also okay if you cannot buy 3.



    Remember that this is the game 1 of a 3-game chase series. If the {A} bet does not win, then please automatically go to the {B} bet by repeating the same wager on the same team on their next game. Similarly, go to the final {C} bet if the {B} bet does not win. It's very rare for a series to require going to the {C} bet, and even rarer for the {C} bet to lose. The {C} bet has only officially lost 1 time in the last 7 seasons of baseball AND basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergo19 View Post
    The {C} bet has only officially lost 1 time in the last 7 seasons of baseball AND basketball.


    Ergo19, I know that you already know this, but just as a reminder/warning to others:

    **************************************** *****
    From 2015-2016 season:
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...hread-p19.html
    04-04-16 05:09 AM Post #641

    V1 Summary
    Series scheduled: 65
    Series completed: 55
    Completed series results:
    A Bets: 35-20
    B Bets: 17-2-1
    C Bets: 1-1

    **************************************** *****
    From 2016-2017 season:
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...jm-nba-p4.html
    03-24-17 04:33 AM Post #114:

    So that was officially the 3rd series loss of the season for John Morrison/Tony Chau 3 game chase systems. He lost this season with Portland, Detroit and then again last night with Cleveland. The loss from last night put the NBA system for him in the hole for the year. System had a good Bet A win rate this season but unfortunately the 3 series losses have wiped out any profits for the season that could of been. Hopefully next year we have a winning season with this system unlike this year. I love how Tony Chau (liar) thinks he went undefeated this year. I constantly remind him of each loss as they come, when the portland series loss this year he basically just tried to brush it off like it didn't count with no valid explanation to anyone. Then when the Detroit series loss he actually had the nerve to come out and claim it a win when nobody under the sun won that series and then for the Cleveland series loss from yesterday he claims it won at Bet B but to win you would have had to take the money line on a -13.5 point spread at -1600 odds!! My book didn't even offer a money line for Bet B and even if they did who the hell wagers a single game at -1600 odds unless they are on meth or something. I am so grateful for this JM thread because it keeps his records honest and exposed for everyone to know the truth about Tony Chau. He is a cheater and a liar first most, do not look at his website to determine how his season was, look here on SBR if you want the honest record about this cheat. The 3 series losses this year were unfortunate but I still believe in this NBA 3 game system and its potential to do well. Thanks to everyone that kept this thread alive this year and looking forward to it again next season. Thanks sbr

    **************************************** *****
    From 2017-2018 season:
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...18-nba-p4.html
    03-06-18 05:10 AM #123

    New York Knicks {C} bet (tomorrow on March 6) - Confirmed official bet
    03-08-18 01:39 AM #124

    Ah well the Knick was a grand failure. But life lives on.

    **************************************** *****
    That looks like 5 'C' losses in 3 years for NBA, without even looking at baseball!

    Believe what you like! Just be careful out there!
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    Thanks "Two Cats" - Yes I forget I should be reminding people how much of a liar Tony (originally known as JM) can be. Even his name can't be trusted, nor his qualifications listed as various times. Well I do trust he spent time in prison, but believe it was for tax fraud. I'm not even sure he didn't steal the system we "know" as his. But, if you are careful, there is a likelihood of regular gains at key times with his systems! Just know when to say no or sit on the sidelines. And please, be risk adverse, especially later in the season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergo19 View Post
    Well I do trust he spent time in prison
    Tony Chau (aka John Morrison) was sentenced to prison after pleading guilty to charges of conducting an illegal gambling business, money laundering and making a false statement on a tax return - https://calvinayre.com/2015/10/02/bu...gambling-case/.

    There was also talk that he stole "his" systems from a Harvard statistics graduate.

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    Just a reminder that we have activity over the next few days including tonight:

    11/16/2018 Utah
    11/17/2018 Clippers
    11/17/2018 Lakers
    11/18/2018 Portland

    If I get info later today I'll post more.
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    11/16/18

    Utah A Bet vs Philly. +3, -170 is +6. Might be a tough one. Butler won't stand aside tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingofKOP View Post
    Utah A Bet vs Philly. +3, -170 is +6. Might be a tough one. Butler won't stand aside tonight
    Utah just got cracked by 50 though, so you know they'll bring their A game after such an embarrassing loss.

    Edit:
    Worth noting, the Jazz are at Boston and Indiana after this. Both very tough match-ups, so proceed with caution on this series!
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    Jazz...Official or Unofficial??
    Thanks

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    official

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    11/17/2018

    Hopefully you all got in at Jazz +6 at -170 to get the push. Regardless, we move onto a B bet with Utah on 11/17. Big night on 11/17. All official bets:

    Utah B bet: +4.5 (+7.5 @ -170)

    Clippers A bet: rules say to ML. My book d.oesn't do that, so I'm tracking this game at -3 @-170

    Lakers A bet: rules say to bet ML. Same as Clippers, so I'm tracking at -1.5 @-170

    If you have an NCAAF or NCAAB systems, please share! Good luck!
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    For Saturday 17th of Nov:

    LA Clippers {A} bet - This is a confirmed official betting series.
    You can either bet on the money line, or bet on the point spread and buy 3 points at no worse than -170 odds to bring the spread from -6 to -3. Buying 2 points at no worse than -150 odds is also okay if you cannot buy 3.


    LA Lakers {A} bet - This is a confirmed official betting series. You can either bet on the money line, or bet on the point spread and buy 3 points at no worse than -170 odds to bring the spread from -5 to -2. Buying 2 points at no worse than -150 odds is also okay if you cannot buy 3.
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    Headsup:

    LAL as (B)
    Portland as (A)

    More coming later hopefully
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    Just a heads up: The bets for the rest of November:

    11/19/2018 Phoenix
    11/21/2018 New Orleans
    11/23/2018 Orlando
    11/23/2018 Houston
    11/23/2018 San Antonio
    11/26/2018 Indiana
    11/28/2018 Utah
    11/29/2018 Golden State


    And from the "horses mouth":

    Phoenix {A} bet - This is an unofficial betting series because Phoenix has the worst 10% in road record in the NBA. Remember to buy up to 3 points at no worse than -170 odds.

    Remember that this is the game 1 of a 3-game chase series for both teams. If the {A} bet does not win, then please automatically go to the {B} bet by repeating the same wager on the same team on their next game. Similarly, go to the final {C} bet if the {B} bet does not win. It's very rare for a series to require going to the {C} bet, and even rarer for the {C} bet to fail. The {C} bet has only officially lost 1 time in the last 7 seasons of baseball AND basketball.

    PLEASE also note the veracity record, summed up in #59
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