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i agree not to be backwards-looking.....
but cleveland/lebron hadn't lost many eastern playoff games before this season... beaten toronto handily a few times in playoffs (although it was closer the last time)... how many playoffs games has toronto ever been competitive in cleveland?
raptors have averaged 24 point SU and 14 point ATS loss in playoffs at cleveland.
raptors have been a hot ATS mess on the road in the playoffs....... alot of it might have to do with just cleveland though
Raps avg. 22 ast last series to Cavs 17 besides James nobody else average over 2 ast for the Cavs only george hill avg. 2.0 assists. Raps avg 109 pts last series only 2 pts off their reg. season avg of 111, Cavs avg. 95 pts a 16 pt dropoff from their reg. season avg. of 110. Raps had the highest differential of pts to opp. pts this season at +7.8 pts a game. Raps were tied for 6th best in opp. ppg this season at 103.9 while Cleveland was 26th giving up 109.9 ppg.
I'm all about stats... but how can we even judge Toronto from last year??? or Cleveland from last year????Originally Posted by jtoler
2 Teams respectively in different directions... Toronto MUCH BETTER... Cleveland.... ?????????????? Kevin Love needs to stop eating gummy bears post game. Guy needs to stop being a fruit.
Is Lowry and dorozan still on Toronto?
Here is one great point, Toronto is full of chokers.
Not saying they won't beat Cleveland, but Raps in the West probably would have been a 3 or 4 seed.
Those stats are from this season. James just gonna have to do too much it wont be enough, at least its not supposed to be enough. Lowry imo needs to make some plays quit taking so many 3's. He did shoot 44% from 3 last series but Ive seen too many games where he'll have 5 pts or some crazy starter stats. With that said if Cavs win game 2, because they arnt winning Game 1, then raps have messed up some if they let that happen, they need to win both of these first 2 games at home.
Last edited by jtoler; 04-30-18 at 04:38 PM.
Both this teams don’t play defense -
Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at. The revenue from tv prime time and commercials alone is staggering. Still though, you gotta factor in sellouts, food and beer concessions, and souvenirs. Plus the home team city stands to gain with every game played there, bars, hotels, etc... It kinda makes you wonder sometimes with these NBA refs who fly in from all over the country, a 7 game series puts more money in their pockets too. Not gonna say it's rigged, but it's all about the money now.
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I'll give Lebron some credit... he's playing the best ever in his career. I can't believe I'm saying this...
But one player shouldn't get you to the Conference Finals.
I don't even think about Kevin Love anymore. Guy couldn't even give you 30.
Lowry could give you 30
DeRozan could give you 30.
I am taking the over in game 1
Books r double dog daring u 2 take cavs
lol cavs are terrible
Books are going to clean house on this series
I haven't paid attention to the season for months so...
is Lowry now an AMAZING guard these days?
the wizards won 2 vs them and they play just as much defense as Cle
play the over in the early games just like the raptors wizards series
that's my early opinion with just a few thoughts about the teams and previous series
CLE with it's diff team was basically feeling themselves into the playoffs vs the Pacers. that's why that game 1 big L wasn't a surprise to a lot of people
they will shoot better vs Tor, as they have to if they want a shot to advance
Like Cleveland to cover the spread. Lowry plays like crap & that usually affects the whole team esp with starters playing heavy minutes. Cavs will win one of the two road games
Lowry avg's 17 pts in the post season. 'Can get you 30'dude is a choke artist...
Where's Queen James At?
Fukking exactly! All this experience they mentioning is comical, only thing they have experience doing is getting bounced by bron or another team in the early rounds!! lol.
Shit cracks me up op saying it has to be fixed for Cavs to win. Fact is the best player in the world (whomever that may be at the time) has always beaten average teams like the craptors!!
Shitbag craptors better win this game as it was their best chance to take a game. Series over already if Cavs win game 1!! I really didn't expect them to win this one but of course im on the ml anyways just cause no way am I missing a cavs win at these prices. Rather craptors get this game so I can unload game 2!!
Cavs will win game 1 lol
I hope not. I don't have as much on them as I would like, figuring this be a take it easy game for them after tough series w Indy just wrapping up the other day. Rather lose this one then pound them game 2!! Lol
Lebron take over soon bro
I don't doubt it. Just saying I played it kinda light with expectation to pound game 2 if they lose here. I'm not gonna cry bout cashing a better than 2 to 1 ticket but rather have more down on games they win! Lol. So really either way I'm happy, I can take home a win here then wait for another spot or if they lose I will go much bigger game 2, either way works for me
Please admit refs did everything in their power to help craptors and they still lost game 1. Then admit if you thought bron would lose to a team not named golden state you don't know shit about this sport. Thanks in advance.
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Nothing to do with multimillionaire athletes that could give a sht ab any of you and everything to do with one poster: seaweed
That's how cle can win, best poster ever
Guess Op got his answer... it's easy to underestimate the cavs cause of recent struggles against the pacers
I got my answer. The NBA is a rigged sh#$hole. NBA is worthless if the Cleveland organization can't make it to the Conference Finals. Bad for ratings... bad for everything.
Like I said... Toronto should file a lawsuit against the NBA. Biased bullsh#$.
They can play all these games fukking day long... I have no care.... Toronto is better at every position.... better everything. It's not even a contest.
After u come down from the gm 1 win
raps obv gonna win 2
as as long as they can split in cle
Please Explain To Me How The Cleveland Cavaliers Can Beat The Toronto Raptors?
Easily...Simply, Cavs need to score 1 more point per game than the Rapts.
Does anyone really care about 2 bad teams??
In the words of Jim Morrison...."The West is The Best!!!"
Lebron averaging 40+ minutes a game, would be my answer
Rigg? Toronto missing 11 shots in a row is rigg?
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