1. 03-12-18 08:52 AM #1
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    Spurs at Rockets - very strange opening line and movement

    3/12/2018 9:49:09 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 13.0-105 -13.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 9:36:30 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5+105 -9.5-125 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 9:08:50 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5-105 -9.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:30:29 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5+100 -9.5-120 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:28:54 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.5+105 -8.5-125 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:27:45 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.0+100 -8.0-120 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:27:29 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.0-105 -8.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:26:23 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 6.5-105 -6.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:25:33 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 5.0-102 -5.0-118 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:12:22 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 4.0-105 -4.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:09:10 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 3.0-105 -3.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:01:24 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 2.5-105 -2.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 7:57:20 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 1.5-110 -1.5-110 100% 0%


    I have never seen anything like this in 30+ years
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  2. 03-12-18 08:59 AM #2
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    my gut tells me grab +13 while you can
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  3. 03-12-18 09:12 AM #3
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    Yeah...I saw this and couldn't believe my eyes. Very odd to jump 12+ points in any time frame lol
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  4. 03-12-18 09:16 AM #4
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    indeed, wtf????

    i like the spurs now (originally had the timing of the movement backward....) i like the spurs +12 1/2 for sure.....

    unless ginobili broke his f'n leg and can "no longer put his team on his back"



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  5. 03-12-18 09:50 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by magaman View Post
    3/12/2018 9:49:09 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 13.0-105 -13.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 9:36:30 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5+105 -9.5-125 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 9:08:50 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5-105 -9.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:30:29 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 9.5+100 -9.5-120 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:28:54 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.5+105 -8.5-125 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:27:45 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.0+100 -8.0-120 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:27:29 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 8.0-105 -8.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:26:23 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 6.5-105 -6.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:25:33 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 5.0-102 -5.0-118 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:12:22 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 4.0-105 -4.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:09:10 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 3.0-105 -3.0-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 8:01:24 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 2.5-105 -2.5-115 100% 0%
    3/12/2018 7:57:20 AM San Antonio Spurs @ Houston Rockets 1.5-110 -1.5-110 100% 0%


    I have never seen anything like this in 30+ years
    This is obviously a misprint. Took a look at a few sites and lines have only moved from 11.5/13.
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  6. 03-12-18 09:56 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    This is obviously a misprint. Took a look at a few sites and lines have only moved from 11.5/13.
    It is not a misprint... these lines are from Betonline and are actual from the times indicated. The line history you are looking at are after this time period. This did indeed happen
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  7. 03-12-18 10:32 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by magaman View Post
    It is not a misprint... these lines are from Betonline and are actual from the times indicated. The line history you are looking at are after this time period. This did indeed happen
    NO fuggin way.
    Not saying this wasn`t on a BOL site, but looking at a ton of other books, nothing but 11s and 12s and 13s.
    Lines were out before 8 AM with 12s all over the place.
    So your claim is BOL was letting anyone take Hou -1.5, then immediately go across the street ( or wait 90 minutes) and get SA +13?
    Still sticking to your claim, so be it.
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  8. 03-12-18 10:33 AM #8
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    injuries

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  9. 03-12-18 10:35 AM #9
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    James Harden was hurt, and now he's probable, so the odds adjusted accordingly. What's so hard to understand about that?
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  10. 03-12-18 10:39 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargers4222 View Post
    James Harden was hurt, and now he's probable, so the odds adjusted accordingly. What's so hard to understand about that?
    Harden was worth a 3 pt adjustment yesterday... this has nothing to do with HArden.

    Betonline severely misread the market, and they saw a 12 swing in a matter of a couple hours from their opening.

    The real question is Betonline more correct or is the market that severely moved the market?
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  11. 03-12-18 10:41 AM #11
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    03/12/2018
    04:57:28 AM    		 -11.5 -118 (Open) 214.5 -111 (Open)
    Small book, Guts, but check time and opener.

    Getting an 11.5 middle in the NBA seems too good to be true.
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    HARDEN PUT THE FUKKIN' TEAM ON HIS BACK, and the spurs ain't got no darren sharper
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOM-Ganador View Post
    03/12/2018
    04:57:28 AM    		 -11.5 -118 (Open) 214.5 -111 (Open)
    Small book, Guts, but check time and opener.

    Getting an 11.5 middle in the NBA seems too good to be true.
    I agree it is all very odd. Betonline is no fringe shop - very best of reputation and they take big action. If it were a bad line, they would have taken it down, but they did not. They made adjustments over the course of 2 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by magaman View Post
    Harden was worth a 3 pt adjustment yesterday... this has nothing to do with HArden.

    Betonline severely misread the market, and they saw a 12 swing in a matter of a couple hours from their opening.

    The real question is Betonline more correct or is the market that severely moved the market?
    Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargers4222 View Post
    Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.
    has a nice ring to it.....

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    All in.
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  17. 03-12-18 01:39 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargers4222 View Post
    Yeah because they were double-digit favorites. What do you want them to be -22 with Harden, or -2 without him? We're talking about 5 points either way...-2 without him, and -12 with him. That's perfectly reasonable for the league MVP.
    You are nuts.

    Vegas had Jordan worth 4-5 points in his prime. Lebron is worth 4-5 points today. But Harden is worth 12 points?

    This is not me talking, this is vegas oddsmakers. The 12 points has NOTHING to do with Harden... time to dig deeper WE just don't know what else is in play
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  18. 03-12-18 01:41 PM #18
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    Houston due for a bad game !!
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  19. 03-12-18 01:47 PM #19
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    Had to be a combination of Harden uncertainty and then him playing, and Aldridge and Ginobli being ruled out
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    Is Pop going to rest players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    HARDEN PUT THE FUKKIN' TEAM ON HIS BACK, and the spurs ain't got no darren sharper
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  22. 03-12-18 06:05 PM #22
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    Alot of points but the Spurs kinda suck right now.. Houston at home is no joke but they are on a back to back tonight..

    I think the Spurs could cover but it's a sketchy bet...(the Spurs are not totally getting blown out lately but losing) .. I'm leaning that the Spurs cover the 12 points but lose the game, oh and totals go OVER 210...

    Spurs last 5 -

    Feb 28 vs New Orleans L 121 - 116
    Mar 3 vs LA Lakers L 116 - 112
    Mar 5 vs Memphis W 100 - 98
    Mar 8 @ Golden State L 110 - 107
    Mar 10 @ Oklahoma City L 104 - 94
    Date Home/Away Opponent Time
    Mar 12 @ Houston 5:00 PM PDT
    ESPN, C+ D

    Rockets last 5 -

    Mar 3 vs Boston W 123 - 120
    Mar 6 @ Oklahoma City W 122 - 112
    Mar 7 @ Milwaukee W 110 - 99
    Mar 9 @ Toronto L 108 - 105
    Mar 11 @ Dallas W 105 - 82
    Date Home/Away Opponent Time
    Mar 12 vs San Antonio 5:00 PM PDT
    ESPN, C+ D
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    You’ll never get hurt backing very good teams
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  24. 03-12-18 06:17 PM #24
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    Houston a B2B would probably be more important if harden played and they had a competitive game. But Dallas was worthless last night and Harden can't really be stopped by anyone on the spurs.
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  25. 03-12-18 06:19 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You’ll never get hurt backing very good teams
    very good teams are public favs... and generally lose money over the course of a season

    you should know this JJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by magaman View Post
    very good teams are public favs... and generally lose money over the course of a season

    you should know this JJ
    o yes the patriots never cover over a season smart
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    By that lines history the 100% and 0% column would have all the bets on Spurs. Lines wont be shifting 12pts against the money
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    Quote Originally Posted by newton0038 View Post
    By that lines history the 100% and 0% column would have all the bets on Spurs. Lines wont be shifting 12pts against the money
    This data was from sportsinsights... this is typical for this line service. It reports all 0% and 100% until there is enough data to report the data with any meaning. It is the same on any/every game in the first few hours
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    Has to be a misprint. None of the books that Covers has show that.

    https://www.covers.com/sports/NBA/Od...eventId=969635

    Bet365 opened it at -12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plaza23 View Post
    Has to be a misprint. None of the books that Covers has show that.

    https://www.covers.com/sports/NBA/Od...eventId=969635

    Bet365 opened it at -12
    You might want to take another look.... if you scroll down on that covers link is shows the same data I reported for lines from Betonline
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    Line now down to 7

    still a couple minutes left to take a bite
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    Quote Originally Posted by magaman View Post
    Line now down to 7

    still a couple minutes left to take a bite
    What's the play@7
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    Spurs have been fading late in games recently, they keep it close early from what I've been seeing then fade late.. Spurs 1st half line might be worth a shot..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony_come View Post
    What's the play@7
    my bad I was referring to the Memphis game... not spurs
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    Can Houston play like this in the playoff? We all know frauds like James harden and Chris Paul will be ghosting come playoff time !!
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