[coolguy73739]

I'm sure some of you always had a doubt sometimes during your betting that some of these NBA games are fixed more especially during your HEAVY LOSSES.
TO BE HONEST I SMELL FIXING SOMETIMES TOO !!
I capped WAS@UTA game today and won purely on the basis of that suspicion!!
My system MAX had all the odds against UTA but that specific SMELL which I do get from some of these games made me put my money on UTA. I looked at all the numbers and all the factors and concluded that UTA It is.
I'm not blaming NBA while losing but rather after winning and wanna know your opinion on same !!
Cheers. !!

[frugalgambler]

The whole world is fixed.

[TTA_President]

I met the referee that was incarcerated for gambling, he gambled based on who the officiating the game. He claims to never fix a game but I say that to say. I felt the games today smelled fishy. I played nets knowing they were set up to lose. And made it back on second half. Anywho, everything is fixed. We get to gather around some if the best like minded individuals and handicap games. Technically, we fix games and move lines. If a great poster has a lean we all like we pound 5 dimes, Heritage and all books, by the time we post here we are responsible.


Then of course our models and leans can never account for the Timberwolves beating the thunder, the clippers almost losing to Knicks and the warriors scoring 79 pts in a half where some teams don't score that in a game. I may be just rambling but I agree. It's all entertainment, we know boxing is fake but the kid inside of us can get caught up in the storyline. NBA is the same as wrestling some nights. At least in my opinion

[keel44]

There is way too much random movement on the court. You have so many people involved. Shots go in. Shot go out. Sometimes the effort is there and sometimes not. If you look at the questionable events closely, you see that nearly all of the "fixing" is in "garbage" time.

I don't think the NBA is fixed, but I do think these knuckleheads mess around way too much on the court and it can cost bettors money.

[coolguy73739]

Well said.
I capped Phi game too based on same intuition though my model had favoured PHI by just 1.7 points. Some of the games FIXING is written all over the wall but you have to be good at reading it.
An upset here and there like OKC today is understandable but it keeps happening in NBA on regular basis on at least one GAME each day imo.
What really baffles me is the way the whole thing is kept so gas tight with not even a SINGLE person talking abt it in such a huge Organisation as NBA.
It seems they all are hand in gloves with some kind of pledge binding where nothing will ever be revealed or shared!!
No wonders it's so hard to win NBA on regular basis when odds are always against you most of the time even with best of your skill and analysis of the games !!
Thanks for your post!!

[coolguy73739]

There is way too much random movement on the court. You have so many people involved. Shots go in. Shot go out. Sometimes the effort is there and sometimes not. If you look at the questionable events closely, you see that nearly all of the "fixing" is in "garbage" time.

I don't think the NBA is fixed, but I do think these knuckleheads mess around way too much on the court and it can cost bettors money.

I can understand messing around of players on court but the BIG question is how team like UTA was made a 5 point fav against WAS before game even started when WAS had such a good H2H record against this team ?
Don't you find this FISHY enough ?

[Git Lo]

#3 great post and I agree coolguy. The question is not really if its fixed or not. You really have to believe it is but the real question is to what degree is it fixed. You answer that and if you look around the NBA forum people are starting threads about this. At this point you have to have skills in avoiding certain games or fading yourself. That's why I said in the beginning of the season fading GS spread is not on the table AT ALL at ANYTIME of the season

[Ro0k]

The refs control the game. If there is any fixing, it's them calling or not calling questionable fouls, travels, etc. When it happens at the end of the game to change a cover/o/u it's fishy as hell and it's easiest to say it was rigged.

Didn't that ref who got caught say he and his ref friends would take bets between each other to see who could go the longest without blowing their whistle and other scenarios. That shit changes games.

As far as the bone head player who sprints down court down 10 with 5 seconds left, I think he's just padding stats.

[coolguy73739]

When it's FIXED its fixed from the word go else how you justify team like UTA leading by as much as 20 in 3rd against WAS?
Referees alone can't make this happens though they can definitely influence the spreads and totals to certain extent in dying moments of the game.
I agree with you on refs but this whole ENTERTAINMENT is much deep-rooted that any of us can ever fathom I guess.

[Ro0k]

Fatigue? Travel? Utah still had to put the ball in the hole. Maybe Washington just knew it wasn't their night and stopped trying as hard early on.

[IceMan4]

Game is rigged, look how phucked the world is and how much corruption is amongst as why would they not alter things to make them money? you really think a industry worth billions of dollars is left to chance?

Im not saying its scripted but surely its fixed in garbage time when it won't have a influence on who wins.

[coolguy73739]

When we don't want to call it FIXED, we as public will always find the justifications to such events. Your justification is PERFECT to this UTA situations and BOOKIES take a great advantage of this and know they can never get caught. I can quote so many cases where teams have outscored their opponents even on back to back games, traveling fatigue or whatever else you wanna account for.
So it's all PERPLEXED.
More I'm learning the art of punting more I am cautious abt these things of lately and more I'm going safer. So much so that I have stopped betting minus spread teams nowadays as nothing is SKILL based or it might be that I don't know !!

[IamsoBurnt]

When we don't want to call it FIXED, we as public will always find the justifications to such events. Your justification is PERFECT to this UTA situations and BOOKIES take a great advantage of this and know they can never get caught. I can quote so many cases where teams have outscored their opponents even on back to back games, traveling fatigue or whatever else you wanna account for.
So it's all PERPLEXED.
More I'm learning the art of punting more I am cautious abt these things of lately and more I'm going safer. So much so that I have stopped betting minus spread teams nowadays as nothing is SKILL based or it might be that I don't know !!

so who you got tomorrow (saturday) ?

[coolguy73739]

so who you got tomorrow (saturday) ?

Working on my picks.. Pls check out my thread for same later in the day.

[Don_Omarion]

depending on which point , your amazing system had WASH against UTAH ???

it is revenge game for UTAH after loss to WASH crap team 1st day after all-star-break which UTAH should have won if they played well .. UTAH better than Wizards %100

to be honest , I do not play dangerous games but I will tell ya something : watch lines and results beside 1 game per day for a week without betting !!!

and you will know what is inside depend on injuries and other factors not just fixing !!!

have to admit that there is fixing also such as LAKERS against GSW few days ago . but do not tell me it is in UTAH vs. WASH lool

best of luck brother

[coolguy73739]

depending on which point , your amazing system had WASH against UTAH ???

it is revenge game for UTAH after loss to WASH crap team 1st day after all-star-break which UTAH should have won if they played well .. UTAH better than Wizards %100

to be honest , I do not play dangerous games but I will tell ya something : watch lines and results beside 1 game per day for a week without betting !!!

and you will know what is inside depend on injuries and other factors not just fixing !!!

have to admit that there is fixing also such as LAKERS against GSW few days ago . but do not tell me it is in UTAH vs. WASH lool

best of luck brother

Okay if that's what you believe in.
Imo in such a long stretch of 82 games there is no such thing as REVENGE! when players are too busy fulfilling their schedule. Media creates this whole revenge bullshit to divert your attention to wherever they want as per their own comfort zone and same is the case with all these so called professional handicappers of various websites who have their own big CUTS from these giants 800 pounds Gorrilas called BOOKIES.
This billion dollars industry is such a massive group that it envelopes all media and other sources required to change our perception and mindset I guess!
As someone rightly mentioned this whole industry should be treated as ENTERTAINMENT and just ENTERTAINMENT!!! Good luck !!

[Seto]

Any individual game might or might not be fixed, but you have no way of knowing, and if you think you do, either you have really good inside information from someone like a player or a referee or you're kidding yourself. If you think you can determine if games are fixed or not because the public is "pounding" a certain team you're completely delusional.

[Seto]

some of these NBA games are fixed more especially during your HEAVY LOSSES.

This here is the core problem with most gamblers who call fix. When they win it's because they're geniuses. But when they lose, the games are fixed. Funnily enough the games are never fixed when they win.

Now from what you're telling us you're not in that category, or at least not entirely since you contradict yourself later.

[RavensFan2k3]

I think Oddsmakers just know who will win honestly. That's why I think it's so important to learn what the line moves mean and to learn what lines should be set at.

[TTA_President]

Seto, that's not true, in the case of Brooklyn vs philly last night. The line was a setup. If a team that has 8 wins was a favorite that would have been obviously a setup. So as far as stats and models are concerned. Having a home dog win vs what it really was A home favorite. Now today. Philly is +10. I'm convinced that they can win straight up after watching last night. Based on how they played ball. Does the game and shooting carry over? Probably. Does Charlotte win by 10 to push. Stay tuned. Same bat show same bat channel.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

[TTA_President]

Lmao. Now I want to watch wrestling

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Lmao. Now I want to watch wrestling

[Ro0k]

Lmao. Now I want to watch wrestling

Hahaha

The 76ers have the nets number for whatever reason. They've beaten them twice this year. You could make the arguement that the nets slept walked through that game last night because they couldn't wait to get home after being away for so long. I personally stayed away from that game because I try not to bet on bad teams. That game could have gone either way imo. Idk about the first half but it seemed lopez was the only one who wanted to win that game. The guy was everywhere.

[Don_Omarion]

Okay if that's what you believe in.
Imo in such a long stretch of 82 games there is no such thing as REVENGE! when players are too busy fulfilling their schedule. Media creates this whole revenge bullshit to divert your attention to wherever they want as per their own comfort zone and same is the case with all these so called professional handicappers of various websites who have their own big CUTS from these giants 800 pounds Gorrilas called BOOKIES.
This billion dollars industry is such a massive group that it envelopes all media and other sources required to change our perception and mindset I guess!
As someone rightly mentioned this whole industry should be treated as ENTERTAINMENT and just ENTERTAINMENT!!! Good luck !!

we all know that this is all business and many fixing are out there specially in NBA the most

but trust me , sometimes line tell you that and you pick the right side..

because I believe in fixing too , I do bet 1:3 games at most per week beside Soccer and Tennis

if you believe that the whole system is fixing as you said " ENTERTAINMENT " .. you can stop betting coz it is so bad to give money to bookies

or you can do it on Tennis and soccer

[pilebuck13]

You can factor in emotion and revenge games and line movements and try and cap based off those factors and at the end of the season more then likely you will be - money. Most men on here that are +money with 100 or so games picked have models they follow and mostly ignore the emotion back to back line movement noise

[Seto]

Seto, that's not true, in the case of Brooklyn vs philly last night. The line was a setup. If a team that has 8 wins was a favorite that would have been obviously a setup. So as far as stats and models are concerned. Having a home dog win vs what it really was A home favorite. Now today. Philly is +10. I'm convinced that they can win straight up after watching last night. Based on how they played ball. Does the game and shooting carry over? Probably. Does Charlotte win by 10 to push. Stay tuned. Same bat show same bat channel.

I could find plenty of lines that look like "setups" or "too good to be true" that ended up winning easily. Weak argument based on one game.

Trust me, you have no idea if any particular game is fixed or not. You're just guessing and hoping.

[Smoove]

Lol some people..

[Git Lo]

Yet another thread dancing around whether games are fixed or not. Come on they fix games they have to someone, either the player(s), ref, coach someone has to. Casinos win in the long run just think of it as being sanctioned.

[keel44]

Fatigue? Travel? Utah still had to put the ball in the hole. Maybe Washington just knew it wasn't their night and stopped trying as hard early on.

That is exactly what I'm talking about.

[IBetYou]

Takes 3 to ref a game so I don't believe the officials fix it. Coaches & star players wield the most fixing power.

But too risky I think -career destroying. It's not something you can do by yourself i.e open various betting accounts as rick carlisle and bet the max on the opposing team.

[coolguy73739]

OKC@BOS 16th March 2016

This is the kinda game that I was talking abt the other day.. that looks FIXED or SCRIPTED to me
No matter what OKC will do, they won't simply overcome BOS in this one imo based on that SMELL..
For all OKC backers, I might be wrong, time will tell..

[laumart]

OKC@BOS 16th March 2016

This is the kinda game that I was talking abt the other day.. that looks FIXED or SCRIPTED to me
No matter what OKC will do, they won't simply overcome BOS in this one imo based on that SMELL..
For all OKC backers, I might be wrong, time will tell..

why do you think it will be fixed??

[coolguy73739]

why do you think it will be fixed??

To make Millions !!

[frugalgambler]

To make Millions !!

NBA is way too profitable to risk the sort of garbage that you might often see in less profitable sports. And with gambling being essentially illegal in the States, there is not that much money to make by fixing the games. Also, NBA is not a popular with gamblers oversees and the overall highest-volume betting happens in soccer and tennis.