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    Hey All:

    I've been working on creating a math system to try and predict games since the season started - I originally had a post up detailing the plays - but the system has evolved a lot over the months and it's at a point that I feel like posting the plays again to track (which is why I'm creating a new thread).

    Methodology: This system works off of team's offensive and defensive efficiencies as well as pace. Numbers are crunched for both away and home situation, so I have two views of a team - how they play at home and how they play away. There is no overlap between the two.

    The efficiencies and pace are adjusted to weigh recent games more heavily (I have it now where the last 5 games make up roughly 50% of the calculation), because we care more about how a team is playing recently than how they played in November.

    To account for strength of schedule, I have used Excel to reduce the error between my predictions and the actual results.

    Each game does contain an error, regardless of how small, and these errors are averaged (using the same weight for the efficiencies) to come up with an average error. The weighted standard distribution of the error is also taken to create a distribution of guesses as to what the score for each team will be.

    I'll take the estimated score based on my offensive efficiencies and then apply both the team's offensive error and standard distribution as well as the opponent's defensive error and standard distribution to come up with a team efficiency. Pace is computed the same way. I run 1,000 sims for each game 10 times and take the average of the %s from those ten sims.

    What this gives us is a guess as to how team A on the road will do against team B at home based on prior statistics. Injuries are not taken into account (I don't have the computational power to get things down to the player level), so I recommend using +/- numbers for making the decision about whether a player is important enough to his team.

    This is always a work in progress, as something will hit me that might seem like a proper addition down the line. Also, I might discover that the math is a bit off, so these bets should only be used to back up prior leans if you'd like to use this information at all.

    Without further ado, here is tonight's only play (threshold of 58% or greater)

    Miami Heat - Spread: -5.5 (64.03%)

    It should be noted that the sim predicts this game to be a blow out, with Miami winning ~108 to ~ 94 (110 to 95 if based off the efficiencies alone without taking the errors into account - I'm still deciding whether I should work off of this as a baseline). They should be safe even at the current line of -6.5.

    Best of Luck.

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    A safe start so far. I'll get the data tomorrow to verify - needless to say, the Pacers played worse than expected (always helps when the error goes with your spread).

    Here are some initial picks I worked up - This sim does not account for back to backs or any extended road trips (the data on these for the year is too sparse to get anything reliable out of it). I'll revise the Toronto pick if the data tonight knocks them down, although I imagine they overachieved.

    Los Angeles Clippers - Spread: -3.5 (68.66%)
    Chicago Bulls / Los Angeles Clippers - Under: 197 (66.51%)
    Washington Wizards - Spread: 4.5 (63.18%)
    Dallas Mavericks / Washington Wizards - Over: 198 (60.38%)
    Orlando Magic - Spread: -10.5 (69.13%)
    Toronto Raptors - Spread: 2.5 (64.45%)
    Sacramento Kings / Atlanta Hawks - Under: 205 (67.13%)
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 6 (63.27%)
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: 3.5 (72.57%)

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    Here are all the picks for the games today:

    Boston Celtics - Spread: -4 (64.58%)
    Boston Celtics / Detroit Pistons - Under: 187 (60.29%)
    Charlotte Bobcats - Spread: -3.5 (66.09%)
    Los Angeles Clippers - Spread: -3.5 (69.44%)
    Chicago Bulls / Los Angeles Clippers - Under: 195.5 (65.91%)
    Washington Wizards - Spread: 4.5 (63.15%)
    Dallas Mavericks / Washington Wizards - Over: 199 (59.15%)
    Orlando Magic - Spread: -11.5 (72.88%)
    Toronto Raptors - Spread: 3 (63.73%)
    Sacramento Kings / Atlanta Hawks - Under: 205 (68.17%)
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 5.5 (64.27%)
    Portland Trail Blazers / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 194 (64.85%)
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: 3.5 (72.01%)

    Subjective Analysis:

    I'm probably not going to bet on Charlotte with Gerald Wallace out (he and Ray Felton make this team), but I'll include it in this list since the system is spitting it out.

    The Kings are shaking up their lineup, and I'm not sure what it does for the under- Brockman and Greene have better defensive numbers than Hawes and Cassipi, but it looks like Brockman gives a huge boost to the offense when he's on. We're also still forming an opinion on Kevin Martin's impact. Right now, he's still rusty.

    The Memphis line surprises me the most, and seems like trap potential (although betting looks pretty even). This is a team that plays well regardless of location. My away rankings have them as one of the best teams on the road (only behind Boston and Cleveland when adjusting for schedule). I'll keep my eye on this game tonight.

    Feel free to post away - criticism, questions, or anything else.

    Good luck.

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    Looking good so far. Keep these pick coming. I'll be back tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post

    Boston Celtics - Spread: -4 (64.58%) - L
    Boston Celtics / Detroit Pistons - Under: 187 (60.29%) - W
    Charlotte Bobcats - Spread: -3.5 (66.09%) - W
    Los Angeles Clippers - Spread: -3.5 (69.44%) - W
    Chicago Bulls / Los Angeles Clippers - Under: 195.5 (65.91%) - L
    Washington Wizards - Spread: 4.5 (63.15%) - W
    Dallas Mavericks / Washington Wizards - Over: 199 (59.15%) - L
    Orlando Magic - Spread: -11.5 (72.88%) - L
    Toronto Raptors - Spread: 3 (63.73%) - L
    Sacramento Kings / Atlanta Hawks - Under: 205 (68.17%) - PUSH
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 5.5 (64.27%) - W
    Portland Trail Blazers / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 194 (64.85%) - W
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: 3.5 (72.01%) - W
    7-5-1 for last night - the lines last night appeared incredibly sharp. With a couple plays just winning or just losing. Total is 8-5-1. Boston appears to be the dog of the night and will probably produce the biggest error.

    Plays for today:

    Cleveland Cavaliers - Spread: -3.5 (72.93%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Cleveland Cavaliers - Under: 195.5 (59.72%)
    Denver Nuggets - Spread: -9.5 (62.35%)

    Denver Nuggets - Spread: -9.5 (68.78%)
    Los Angeles Clippers / Denver Nuggets - Over: 210 (61.22%)


    Denver Nuggets - Spread: -10 (59.98%)



    Edit: Revised the formula a bit so blowouts aren't overly compensated for - This knocks out the cavs game. Interesting to see how this plays out.

    Edit 2: And then there was 1 - Found another error in the formula - was pulling in only home D errors, not away D errors.

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    Nice win last night - 9-5-1 so far. Will be interesting to see how off the pace was from that Denver game.

    Have a lot of picks today and will post them later once I add last nights games.

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    Here are the picks for today:

    Houston Rockets / San Antonio Spurs - Under: 192 (59.73%)
    Washington Wizards - Spread: 3 (60.38%)
    Miami Heat / Washington Wizards - Under: 194.5 (71.96%)
    Phoenix Suns - Spread: -6.5 (60.08%)
    Milwaukee Bucks / Toronto Raptors - Under: 206 (73.36%)
    Dallas Mavericks / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 196.5 (74.13%)
    Indiana Pacers / Detroit Pistons - Over: 199 (60.36%)
    Sacramento Kings / Orlando Magic - Under: 207 (68.45%)
    Portland Trail Blazers - Spread: 10.5 (80.22%)
    Portland Trail Blazers / Boston Celtics - Over: 185 (68.92%)
    Oklahoma City Thunder / Memphis Grizzlies - Under: 204 (59.62%)
    New York Knickerbockers - Spread: 5.5 (67.69%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / New York Knickerbockers - Under: 203 (65.30%)

    Subjective Thoughts:

    I'm a little worried about the Blazers +10.5 and more importantly, the Blazers over. I'm not worried about Roy being out (he has a negative +/- while Bayless and Steve Blake are positive; Roy's defense isn't that sharp, so the over takes a knock). I am a little worried about KG - There might be some rust, but he's such a defensive force, and my gut says it's easier to jump back in and play defense as opposed to offense (instinct vs. running set plays, getting into the flow of the game). Even if the Celtics go easy with him, I think he still brings the defense to force the under. I'll see where the spread ends up, but personally, I'm staying away from the recommended total play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post

    Houston Rockets / San Antonio Spurs - Under: 192 (59.73%) - L
    Washington Wizards - Spread: 3 (60.38%) - L
    Miami Heat / Washington Wizards - Under: 194.5 (71.96%) - L
    Phoenix Suns - Spread: -6.5 (60.08%) - L
    Milwaukee Bucks / Toronto Raptors - Under: 206 (73.36%) - W
    Dallas Mavericks / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 196.5 (74.13%) - W
    Indiana Pacers / Detroit Pistons - Over: 199 (60.36%) - L
    Sacramento Kings / Orlando Magic - Under: 207 (68.45%) -W
    Portland Trail Blazers - Spread: 10.5 (80.22%) - W
    Portland Trail Blazers / Boston Celtics - Over: 185 (68.92%) - W
    Oklahoma City Thunder / Memphis Grizzlies - Under: 204 (59.62%) - W
    New York Knickerbockers - Spread: 5.5 (67.69%) - L
    Los Angeles Lakers / New York Knickerbockers - Under: 203 (65.30%) - L
    6-7 - not a great night - The Knicks and Wiz games killed it - I have a sense that the errors didn't play in our favor (Looking the preliminary data, the Lakers put up their best road game most likely all season; the Bulls also put on a show in what appears to be their best road game as well).

    The fact that the Over didn't hit for the Pacers / Pistons game is something I want to look into - It seems like all the numbers fell into place for this one.

    Total record is 15-12-1

    Picks coming later today hopefully.

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    better luck today !

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    Better luck today

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    your the man wiyh a plan i will be bplaying a few thanks

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    Here are some plays for today:

    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 6 (59.55%)
    Chicago Bulls / Houston Rockets - Under: 199 (60.72%)
    Minnesota Timberwolves / Milwaukee Bucks - Over: 202 (58.34%)
    Charlotte Bobcats - Spread: 1.5 (85.25%)
    Sacramento Kings / Miami Heat - Under: 201 (78.58%)
    Utah Jazz - Spread: -16.5 (61.39%)
    New Jersey Nets / Utah Jazz - Over: 200 (58.29%)
    New Orleans Hornets / Denver Nuggets - Over: 207 (60.71%)
    Oklahoma City Thunder - Spread: 8 (58.14%)

    Subjective Analysis:

    The Bobcats one has me a bit worried, because Ray Felton looks doubtful and he (plus Gerald Wallace) are this team - his replacements are going to cost them dearly.

    Otherwise, the card is pretty plain. The Chicago pick has me a bit baffled - I think they're getting a boost from last night's performance ( and how badly the system missed it) I've done some tinkering as well - I need to setup a backtest to see exactly how the formulas should work out (future project).


    Good luck all!

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    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 6 (59.55%)
    Sacramento Kings / Miami Heat - Under: 201 (78.58%)
    New Orleans Hornets / Denver Nuggets - Over: 207 (60.71%)


    my bets...rock on!

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    Toronto Raptors - Spread: 4.5 (65.63%)
    Washington Wizards - Spread: -2.5 (64.92%)
    Los Angeles Clippers / Washington Wizards - Over: 193.5 (69.54%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post

    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 6 (59.55%) -W
    Chicago Bulls / Houston Rockets - Under: 199 (60.72%) -L
    Minnesota Timberwolves / Milwaukee Bucks - Over: 202 (58.34%) - W
    Charlotte Bobcats - Spread: 1.5 (85.25%) - L
    Sacramento Kings / Miami Heat - Under: 201 (78.58%) - W
    Utah Jazz - Spread: -16.5 (61.39%) - W
    New Jersey Nets / Utah Jazz - Over: 200 (58.29%) - L
    New Orleans Hornets / Denver Nuggets - Over: 207 (60.71%) - W
    Oklahoma City Thunder - Spread: 8 (58.14%) - W
    Total of 6-3 for 21-15-1 - Those over unders were really close last night - OT actually saved one again (two nights in a row).

    I posted my picks for the day above this post - good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post
    Washington Wizards - Spread: -2.5 (64.92%)
    Los Angeles Clippers / Washington Wizards - Over: 193.5 (69.54%)
    Well, first the Wiz killed two picks on defense against Miami, now they kill two more on offense. Based on preliminary offensive efficiency measures, they put up a 86.7 - that would be a top 15 worst performance at home on the year. Good luck with the last pick of the day. Live to fight another day.

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    Of course, not to be outdone by miserable performances were the Knicks - Dallas put up the best offensive performance to date by an away team, and the 3rd best all year regardless of location (top two would be)

    12/2/2009 Atlanta Hawks HOME 150.52
    11/9/2009 San Antonio Spurs HOME 143.96

    Crazy Sunday!

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    1-2, for a total of 22-17-1 - Lakers / Raptors game went down exactly as planned, saving us from a 0-3 day.

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    Knicks fans at that game should get their money back.

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    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 8 (65.15%)
    Denver Nuggets - Spread: -5.5 (59.95%)
    Charlotte Bobcats / Denver Nuggets - Over: 194.5 (70.92%)
    Indiana Pacers / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 208.5 (59.81%)
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: 1.5 (67.81%)
    Orlando Magic / Memphis Grizzlies - Under: 203.5 (61.15%)
    Utah Jazz - Spread: -7 (68.64%)
    Cleveland Cavaliers / Miami Heat - Under: 190 (63.47%)
    Portland Trail Blazers - Spread: -2.5 (58.17%)
    New Orleans Hornets / Portland Trail Blazers - Over: 189 (76.85%)
    Los Angeles Clippers - Spread: 11.5 (59.08%)

    Subjective Analysis:

    I'll still bet on Denver even with Carmelo out - I'm not exactly confident in Joey Graham replacing him, but the other members of the nuggets can pick up the slack.

    Same with the Bulls - I think they'll be fine despite half their team being questionable for the game. As long as they have Deng, they're fine.

    Good luck!

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    As a side note, the Over for the Nuggets / Bobcats game does look suspect without Carmelo. I might ride it out regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post
    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 8 (65.15%) - W
    Denver Nuggets - Spread: -5.5 (59.95%) - W
    Charlotte Bobcats / Denver Nuggets - Over: 194.5 (70.92%) - W
    Indiana Pacers / Philadelphia 76ers - Under: 208.5 (59.81%) - W
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: 1.5 (67.81%) - W
    Orlando Magic / Memphis Grizzlies - Under: 203.5 (61.15%) - W
    Utah Jazz - Spread: -7 (68.64%) - W
    Cleveland Cavaliers / Miami Heat - Under: 190 (63.47%) - W
    Portland Trail Blazers - Spread: -2.5 (58.17%) - L
    New Orleans Hornets / Portland Trail Blazers - Over: 189 (76.85%) - W
    Los Angeles Clippers - Spread: 11.5 (59.08%) - W
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the stars aligned and gave us an excellent night - 10-1 - It'll be really interesting to see how the errors played out with this one. Record jumps to 32-18-1

    Also, how about the Jazz covering last night? What a comeback. My Phoenix efficiency prediction was off by 14, but fortunately, my Jazz one was also off by about 7.7, so the difference was covered.

    Bulls played better than expected; San Antonio played a little worse; Pacers played a lot better than expected, but the possessions were a lot lower than expected, so it wasn't enough to rock the under (This is what I think makes Over / Under predictions a bit trickier - you need to guess the efficiencies AND the pace to hit it right, as opposed to just the efficiency differentials).

    Heat / Cavs and Memphis / Orlando were dead on - only off by 1 point for each of those games and half a possessions.

    Finally the clips played about 11.5 points worse than expected, but the Celtics played 16.5 points worse, so our number was fine - by the way, the pace was almost 10 possessions faster than predicted.

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    hey can u give the picks in few hours like in 2 hours and wish to tail ur picks but our books here are closed in 2 hours pls try thankzz

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    I've been very interested for a long time on creating a system based on offensive/defensive efficiency and pace, and it's good to see you doing so well. I have an initial system made up, but it looks like its far inferior to yours. Best of luck as always, great run last night!

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    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: 7 (61.96%)
    Milwaukee Bucks / Dallas Mavericks - Under: 197.5 (87.25%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Washington Wizards - Under: 199 (63.16%)

    Thank goodness there isn't any backing of the Wizards today.

    Whenever I see an over 80% play, I get skeptical - Perhaps Vegas knows something recent that the model isn't taking into account - unless the total line falls drastically, I would stay away.

    Good luck.

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    WOW...great night!

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    Really good job... Do you mind posting the excelsheet??

    GL

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    Here are the full slate of picks:

    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: 7 (61.29%)
    Milwaukee Bucks / Dallas Mavericks - Under: 198 (85.85%)
    Phoenix Suns - Spread: -5.5 (59.21%)
    Charlotte Bobcats / Phoenix Suns - Over: 209.5 (58.79%)
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 6.5 (69.11%)
    Golden State Warriors / Sacramento Kings - Under: 220.5 (68.24%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Washington Wizards - Under: 199 (62.58%)

    Again, seriously questioning an 85.85% chance of a play hitting - anyone have an idea on why this total might be so high?

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan19 View Post
    Really good job... Do you mind posting the excelsheet??

    GL
    Thanks for the support - I'm a little hesitant to post the sheet for a couple of reasons - The selfish reason is that I've put a lot of effort into getting things where they are and I think it's more important for people to create their own systems that add value to these forums.

    The less selfish reasons include the fact that I'm constantly trying to tweak the methodology and I'm still finding the occassional math error. As a reminder, these picks shouldn't be tailed without thought - if you have a lean, you're welcome to use this information to support your initial thoughts. Before I created this system, I was tailing math plays and having horrible results (that's why I set out to create my own).

    If anyone would like to discuss modeling nba games based on efficiencies, I'd be more than happy to share my limited knowledge.

    Take care all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djiddish98 View Post
    Here are the full slate of picks:

    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: 7 (61.29%) - W
    Milwaukee Bucks / Dallas Mavericks - Under: 198 (85.85%) - L
    Phoenix Suns - Spread: -5.5 (59.21%) - L
    Charlotte Bobcats / Phoenix Suns - Over: 209.5 (58.79%) - W (thanks OT)
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 6.5 (69.11%) - W
    Golden State Warriors / Sacramento Kings - Under: 220.5 (68.24%) - W
    Los Angeles Lakers / Washington Wizards - Under: 199 (62.58%) - L
    4-3, although it certainly didn't feel like that - The Lakers played another amazing game that shot the Under, Dallas played another amazing game (along with Milwaukee most likely playing their best offensive game on the season) shot that under, and the Suns faded down the stretch.

    That Suns game illustrates the difficulty of totals - I had the efficiencies estimated pretty closely (albeit switched for both teams), but my regulation possession estimate was off by about 6, which, in its simplest form, is going to cost the total 6*2 points = 12 points (This game was a lot slower than I thought it would be).

    Total is 36-21-1

    Here are tonight's preliminary plays:

    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 5.5 (60.78%)
    Chicago Bulls / Oklahoma City Thunder - Under: 195.5 (63.33%)
    Cleveland Cavaliers - Spread: -14 (59.05%)
    Minnesota Timberwolves / Cleveland Cavaliers - Over: 200 (63.46%)
    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: -2.5 (63.23%)
    Atlanta Hawks / San Antonio Spurs - Over: 195 (60.54%)
    Utah Jazz / Portland Trail Blazers - Over: 195.5 (64.36%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Indiana Pacers - Under: 209.5 (72.34%)

    Good luck

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    I've decided to break my plays down into 2 categories - plays that are calculated at 60% and over, and plays that are between 55% and 60% known as card stuffers (in case you're desperate for some action on a game).

    Here is an update of the potential plays - I'll try and keep track of the two records separately to see if there's a difference in winning % between the two.

    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 5.5 (60.78%)
    Chicago Bulls / Oklahoma City Thunder - Under: 195.5 (63.33%)
    Minnesota Timberwolves / Cleveland Cavaliers - Over: 200 (63.46%)
    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: -2.5 (63.23%)
    Atlanta Hawks / San Antonio Spurs - Over: 195 (60.54%)
    Utah Jazz / Portland Trail Blazers - Over: 195.5 (64.36%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Indiana Pacers - Under: 209.5 (72.34%)
    Card stuffers
    Cleveland Cavaliers - Spread: -14 (59.05%)
    Atlanta Hawks - Spread: 3.5 (56.24%)
    Indiana Pacers - Spread: 6 (57.18%)

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    great job for sure you are doing... maybe you could somehow give us an exapmle of how you come up with your chance of winning... eg Bulls today...
    I only used very simple PR stuff so far... trends... and situational handicapping... something witha bit more math... would be great to include too...

    GL

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    Great job...keep it up

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    Chicago Bulls / Oklahoma City Thunder - Under: 195 (60.58%)
    Cleveland Cavaliers - Spread: -13 (67.24%)
    Minnesota Timberwolves / Cleveland Cavaliers - Over: 200 (67.27%)
    Atlanta Hawks / San Antonio Spurs - Over: 195 (61.63%)
    Utah Jazz / Portland Trail Blazers - Over: 195.5 (65.26%)
    Los Angeles Lakers / Indiana Pacers - Under: 210 (65.57%)
    Memphis Grizzlies - Spread: -1.5 (69.89%)
    New Jersey Nets - Spread: 6.5 (62.88%)
    Los Angeles Clippers / New Jersey Nets - Over: 191.5 (60.46%)
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    Chicago Bulls - Spread: 5.5 (56.48%)
    Milwaukee Bucks - Spread: -2.5 (59.12%)
    Denver Nuggets - Spread: 2 (57.77%)
    Denver Nuggets / Houston Rockets - Under: 208.5 (59.48%)
    Golden State Warriors - Spread: 2 (59.55%)
    New Orleans Hornets / Golden State Warriors - Over: 215 (55.67%)
    Memphis Grizzlies / Detroit Pistons - Over: 196.5 (56.99%)

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