1. 11-12-14 10:05 AM #1
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    POR +2 vs DEN?? Am I missing something? Help me out here

    Why is Portland the underdog here? Are they that bad on the road or is Denver that good at home? Portland is the superior team IMO. Is someone out for POR? Did DEN get back a big piece? Some insight would be good! Thanks!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  2. 11-12-14 10:08 AM #2
    44 Mag
    44 Mag's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-14-13
    Posts: 34,470
    Betpoints: 13158

    See aireent777 post.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  3. 11-12-14 11:52 AM #3
    suicidekings
    Update your status
    suicidekings's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-23-09
    Posts: 9,962
    Betpoints: 0

    5th game in 7 days
    Portland 0-2 on the road
    Sea level to high altitude for the second half of a B2B after a tough game last night

    I can see Portland starting well, but it's asking a lot for them to sustain a high energy level for the full game in this situation against a team that likes to run.
    Last edited by suicidekings; 11-12-14 at 12:01 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  4. 11-12-14 11:52 AM #4
    Brutus84
    Brutus84's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-08-11
    Posts: 5,188
    Betpoints: 402

    Because they played yesterday dummy
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  5. 11-12-14 12:07 PM #5
    R.P. McMurphy
    Update your status
    R.P. McMurphy's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-15-12
    Posts: 9,654
    Betpoints: 175

    5th gm in 7.nights more of a red flag for me to stay away from Port than b2b. That and they had to overcome a huge deficit last night and probably exerted a little more energy on both ends grinding that one out. Nugs seem pretty bad this year and not clicking with new coach. Don't think I will be afraid of backing teams in b2b going into Denver this season especially a younger squad like Port. The Sac Queens did it recently after what had to be a big emotional win for them over Dippers. With the sum of all factors tho 5th in 7 and last night's grinder I would stay away from Port tonight.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  6. 11-12-14 12:13 PM #6
    mtofell
    mtofell's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-21-13
    Posts: 737
    Betpoints: 4680

    Portland is young, early in the season, DEN is terrible. I was just listening to NBA radio on XM and they were talking about Bryan Shaw probably getting fired soon. DEN is a dumpster fire.... totally under achieving. I'm on POR for sure. I came in to make pretty much this exact post. I think the line is the reverse of what it should be.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  7. 11-12-14 12:16 PM #7
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    See aireent777 post.
    Just read it thanks.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  8. 11-12-14 12:17 PM #8
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    5th game in 7 days
    Portland 0-2 on the road
    Sea level to high altitude for the second half of a B2B after a tough game last night

    I can see Portland starting well, but it's asking a lot for them to sustain a high energy level for the full game in this situation against a team that likes to run.
    Will have to do some more research on this "High altitude" angle and see. Doesn't seem like much to me especially seeing how BAD Denver is this season. If the team were at least close I would have considered it more.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  9. 11-12-14 12:20 PM #9
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    5th gm in 7.nights more of a red flag for me to stay away from Port than b2b. That and they had to overcome a huge deficit last night and probably exerted a little more energy on both ends grinding that one out. Nugs seem pretty bad this year and not clicking with new coach. Don't think I will be afraid of backing teams in b2b going into Denver this season especially a younger squad like Port. The Sac Queens did it recently after what had to be a big emotional win for them over Dippers. With the sum of all factors tho 5th in 7 and last night's grinder I would stay away from Port tonight.
    Fading Denver is the exact reason I love Portland. Denver is bottom 23-30 in the league IMO based on how they've been playing and Portland is top 10. So giving Portland +3 is something I can't pass up banking on an "b2b" and "high altitude" angle. And seeing that most of the money is coming in on Denver, I can say it ain't a "trap game".

    BOL!
    Last edited by PickoMoff; 11-12-14 at 12:26 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  10. 11-12-14 12:22 PM #10
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by mtofell View Post
    Portland is young, early in the season, DEN is terrible. I was just listening to NBA radio on XM and they were talking about Bryan Shaw probably getting fired soon. DEN is a dumpster fire.... totally under achieving. I'm on POR for sure. I came in to make pretty much this exact post. I think the line is the reverse of what it should be.

    This is the same way I feel buddy! I pounding Portland!

    BOL!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  11. 11-12-14 12:26 PM #11
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Thank you for the input guys! Appreciate it!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  12. 11-12-14 12:28 PM #12
    SpreadSniper
    SpreadSniper's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-09
    Posts: 6,125
    Betpoints: 7261

    the "high altitude" angle is something that has been around forever.... basically it says fade teams coming into Denver/Utah, having to play on the 2nd leg of a b2b. The lower they were the night before (in terms of altitude) the bigger the impact given their bodies don't have a chance to acclimatize to the adjustment in elevation whereas the home team (Nugs/Jazz) have been chilling in said conditions. The older the player the greater the supposed impact.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  13. 11-12-14 12:29 PM #13
    44 Mag
    44 Mag's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 10-14-13
    Posts: 34,470
    Betpoints: 13158

    Quote Originally Posted by PickoMoff View Post
    Just read it thanks.
    In case you weren't with us last year, air.... is about the best on here for NBA. Never saw him do MLB or NFL, but he knows his shit in the NBA, even though it is early. Don't have to tail, but just watch him as the season goes, nobody sharper than him. BOL.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  14. 11-12-14 01:05 PM #14
    blstrick5
    blstrick5's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-12-13
    Posts: 561
    Betpoints: 1096

    I love Portland but Denver is the play here.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  15. 11-12-14 01:23 PM #15
    Covy
    Covy's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-13-11
    Posts: 1,433
    Betpoints: 1430

    Portland in a pleaser tonight. If this team starts fast unlike last night, it's a long night for the Nuggets
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  16. 11-12-14 01:48 PM #16
    spankmythighs
    spankmythighs's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-26-10
    Posts: 2,884
    Betpoints: 154

    Love the OVER here. Denver has 0 defense giving up 108 per game while still managing to score a 100 a gm.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  17. 11-12-14 03:05 PM #17
    suicidekings
    Update your status
    suicidekings's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-23-09
    Posts: 9,962
    Betpoints: 0

    Quote Originally Posted by PickoMoff View Post
    Will have to do some more research on this "High altitude" angle and see. Doesn't seem like much to me especially seeing how BAD Denver is this season. If the team were at least close I would have considered it more.
    You can look back over records from many seasons and you'll find that over-worked teams going to altitude on a B2B do not tend to play very well. Salt Lake city has a similar benefit of altitude as Denver. There's also countless research done on the effects of altitude training on athletes that's relevant here.

    Doesn't mean Denver will win tonight, and being a recognized trend has led to adjustments made in the line for the effect. But like you say, it's a good reason to tread lightly on Portland moreso than to have faith in the Nuggets.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  18. 11-12-14 05:48 PM #18
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadSniper View Post
    the "high altitude" angle is something that has been around forever.... basically it says fade teams coming into Denver/Utah, having to play on the 2nd leg of a b2b. The lower they were the night before (in terms of altitude) the bigger the impact given their bodies don't have a chance to acclimatize to the adjustment in elevation whereas the home team (Nugs/Jazz) have been chilling in said conditions. The older the player the greater the supposed impact.
    Noted.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  19. 11-12-14 05:49 PM #19
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    In case you weren't with us last year, air.... is about the best on here for NBA. Never saw him do MLB or NFL, but he knows his shit in the NBA, even though it is early. Don't have to tail, but just watch him as the season goes, nobody sharper than him. BOL.
    Thanks, I will!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  20. 11-12-14 05:50 PM #20
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    You can look back over records from many seasons and you'll find that over-worked teams going to altitude on a B2B do not tend to play very well. Salt Lake city has a similar benefit of altitude as Denver. There's also countless research done on the effects of altitude training on athletes that's relevant here.

    Doesn't mean Denver will win tonight, and being a recognized trend has led to adjustments made in the line for the effect. But like you say, it's a good reason to tread lightly on Portland moreso than to have faith in the Nuggets.
    Noted! Thanks!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  21. 11-12-14 10:18 PM #21
    lore22
    lore22's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-13-14
    Posts: 34
    Betpoints: 2860

    Hope you stuck to your guns!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  22. 11-12-14 10:45 PM #22
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    Quote Originally Posted by lore22 View Post
    Hope you stuck to your guns!
    Yea, I did! Thanks!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  23. 11-12-14 10:45 PM #23
    PickoMoff
    No Risk No Reward!
    PickoMoff's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-08-13
    Posts: 638
    Betpoints: 919

    "High altitude" my a$$!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
Top
« Previous Thread | NBA Basketball Betting | Next Thread »