1. 10-28-14 04:00 PM #1
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    How many wins a year Vegas thinks Lebron, Paul George, and K-Love are worth.

    2013 T-Wolves futures bet over/under with Kevin Love was 41.5 games won.
    2014 T-Wolves futures bet over/under without Kevin Love is 26.5 games won.

    Net loss 15 games.

    2013 Heat futures bet over/under with Lebron was 61.5 games won.
    2014 Heat futures bet over/under without Lebron is 44.5 games won.

    Net loss 17 games

    2013 Pacers futures bet over/under with Paul George was 54.5 games won.
    2014 Pacers futures bet over/under without Paul George is 33.5 games won.

    Net loss 21 games.

    Cleveland Cavs by the way, with K-Love and Lebron this year the future o/u number games won is 58.5
    Without the two of them last year, Cleveland opened up the 2013 with over/under total at 40.5


    Seems (and it makes sense) Paul George is worth more wins to the Pacers then Lebron to the Heat, because of the supporting cast Miami had
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  2. 10-28-14 04:03 PM #2
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    Lakers sit at over/under 30.5 wins. These espn experts keep saying the west is really tough and lakers wont reach that number but lakeshow also play teams from the east as well. Guess Simmons and Coward forgot to mention that. The more you know the more you leave out i guess.
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    Interesting. Seems like there has to be more to the story in Indianas case. Can't simply be PGeorge, can it?
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  4. 10-28-14 04:10 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    Lakers sit at over/under 30.5 wins. These espn experts keep saying the west is really tough and lakers wont reach that number but lakeshow also play teams from the east as well. Guess Simmons and Coward forgot to mention that. The more you know the more you leave out i guess.
    I'm not sure I get your point.
    Point of my thread is what elite players mean to franchises in terms of wins and losses from a wagering point of view.
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  5. 10-28-14 04:13 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I'm not sure I get your point.
    Point of my thread is what elite players mean to franchises in terms of wins and losses from a wagering point of view.
    nasher, i felt my post had more pertinent info, based on the fact that lakers play tonight. derailing threads is what i do. game recognize game.
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  6. 10-28-14 04:13 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    Lakers sit at over/under 30.5 wins. These espn experts keep saying the west is really tough and lakers wont reach that number but lakeshow also play teams from the east as well. Guess Simmons and Coward forgot to mention that. The more you know the more you leave out i guess.
    over for sure.

    as long as kobe's healthy, lakers should win 40+.
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  7. 10-28-14 04:17 PM #7
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    lance stephenson gone from indiana as well
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  8. 10-28-14 04:23 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    nasher, i felt my post had more pertinent info, based on the fact that lakers play tonight. derailing threads is what i do. game recognize game.
    I'm good at it too lol
    All good.

    Yeah, LAL has some youngsters that can ball.

    Gimme the over there.
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  9. 10-28-14 04:54 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    lance stephenson gone from indiana as well
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  10. 10-28-14 07:19 PM #10
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    This is some lazy and incorrect way to look at it.
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  11. 10-28-14 07:50 PM #11
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    ^
    Lighten up Francis.
    I was just throwing out won/loss swings.

    Yeesh, it wasn't the be all end all, I threw this out there for Tuesday afternoon chit-chat.
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  12. 10-28-14 08:35 PM #12
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    Miami would of gotten buried without James

    Hard to judge by odds vegas puts out
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